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Post by Gordak on Jul 19, 2008 22:13:55 GMT -5
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jul 19, 2008 22:25:44 GMT -5
That looks like a great great game. Next summer I will try and make it a point to be there for whatever game you do. I am trying to make the rounds
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Jul 19, 2008 23:02:18 GMT -5
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Post by 2ndranger on Jul 19, 2008 23:11:37 GMT -5
I hope you all had a great time!!! It looked liike great amounts of fun!
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Post by Nimlas on Jul 20, 2008 0:00:03 GMT -5
This event was AWESOME. I had a hell of a lot of fun.
HUGE thanks to Sean, for taking on the gargantuan task that is organizing an event like this, and for allowing us to use his land. Big thanks to all the other organizers as well. I'd also like to thank those guy that drove INSANE distances to give the Allies something to shoot at, we appreciate you guys. Thanks to Ed as well for bringing along his amazing cadre of weapons. Formal AAR coming....eventually.
L337zz.....with no Mike
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Post by biged on Jul 20, 2008 8:08:45 GMT -5
I should have taken more pictures, especially in the camp. There was a photographer who filmed the entire event. Thank you Sean, Ray, and Josh (Of Airsoft Corner) for running a fantastic event!! I salute everyone on the German and Italian partisan side. They were outnumbered, out gunned, and they still held us off for the better half of the day. If the "kill tokens" were counted and ratio of Axis to Allies were calculated, I have a feeling the Axis won. Thanks also to everyone who drove 17 to 23 hours from Minnesota and Wisconsin. A clear indication of the devotion to this Historic era and the sport Airsoft. ///ed///
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Post by BURT "The Great" on Jul 20, 2008 8:54:05 GMT -5
Yes, A VERY BIG THANKS to Sean for creating and hosting this awesome game. He really did do a great job.
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Post by Medic on Jul 20, 2008 9:26:32 GMT -5
Damn, in that picture, I'm half the size of everyone else. "American Gold"
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Jul 20, 2008 10:55:46 GMT -5
Damn, in that picture, I'm half the size of everyone else. "American Gold" That's a good thing. It means you're half the target we are! ohhh the inside jokes... pikachu blanky american gold "i'd like to order a..*HONNNNK*" ponderosa THE awesome shot That's enough for now. we gotta make these last until the next event! <YD>
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Post by mccallion on Jul 20, 2008 13:04:47 GMT -5
awsome game thank you sean for letting us use the land and ty you germans that drove 20+ hours to play
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Post by panzer IB on Jul 20, 2008 13:22:05 GMT -5
Me at the briefing (I am wearing the black mask) Me after the surrender thanks for letting me come I had a great time
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Jul 20, 2008 14:18:25 GMT -5
Looks like another great NY event! How about some specifics about the scenarios and some information about the artillery that was in play for the game?
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Post by Warlord on Jul 20, 2008 14:44:00 GMT -5
WOW. I am exhausted - awesome game everyone - I'll have a more detailed AAR up later...we had exactly 40 players in the game, and surprisingly...it was 20vs20. With the spawn tokens though, the allies had more than twice our numbers.
Great pictures! I'd like to thank everyone for making the drive, I know Friday night was tough for many with the storm soaking camping equipment. Despite the heat, I hope Saturday made up for Friday's woes and everyone had a great time.
Ray, Josh - couldn't have done it without you guys...awesome job.
Jeff (our camera guy) will have a Youtube video posted soon. He got a ton of footage for the game, so once he sends the footage to me I'm going to try and get it compiled for a DVD release.
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Post by Ersatzjack on Jul 20, 2008 15:38:27 GMT -5
The much anticipated event for July has come and gone and here are some photos and some observations. The MOA sent a group of 3rd PzGr to support our host forces. Alban, Garrick, Wolfgang and myself departed my house about 8pm on Thursday the 17th and drove to NY (Albany area) for this event arriving around 4:00 pm on Friday. We were met by other friendly German players and set about building our camp. The hosts had done a great amount of field prep and true to their word, the US forces were not permitted into the German areas. Since the rules did not allow for a German counter attack into the US area there was no limitations on Germans visiting them in their camp and we went and took pictures of both camps. They were the best I have seen. The German camp boasted 5-zeltbahn tents and thanks in large part to the efforts of Gerry528 and his brother Mike from the NY area we had a hot meal on Saturday and camp music and the trappings of period wrapped food parcels. It was pretty cool. Oil lanterns were used at night. The Friday camping was cut short however around 11pm when a lightning storm came through and everyone that didn't want to suffer electrocution took shelter in the green building that while it offered no electricity did provide shelter. Some folks then returned to the tent area on the US and German sides and others took to their cars while others like myself found a spot on the floor for the night. At 5am on Saturday we began rousting the troops and preparing for the game ahead. Chrono testing, registration, rules and a raffle (drats -- I didn't win) took till about 9am and then the game took off. The Germans were divided into two teams. I lead the 3rd Panzergrenadier contingent which had us four, along with our newest member "Mike" (he'll be signing up presently as a NY member) and our old friend Hans or sniper98 from the WW2AA boards and then Nick or Panzer IB from these boards. The seven of us guarded the woods on the right flank of the town while the main German forces occupied the bunkers and buildings in the town across the pond. The 3rd FJs and citizens loyal to the fascist cause defended this town. It was predicted that the 3rd PzGr was to merely perform a holding action and bleed the American attack and then when pressured heavily retreat back across the far bridge and protect the town from an attack in that direction. So I set up a reverse slope defense in the woods and waited for the US probes. We didn't have to wait long. I interspersed my riflemen and submachine gunners and we all had an opportunity to tally up some American dead. Garrick anchored the far left of our line and his responsibility was to keep an open area of grassland between the pond and the tree line from being breached. If that happened the attackers could then push numerous forces through to the bridge and capture the forest base and then move on the rear of the village. I supported him on his right and commanded that portion of the line. Alban was my second and he commanded defenses on the right flank which was deep in the woods. He did a great job moving back and forth amongst his men checking their status and moving forces where needed. The allies attacking our sector were the US regular infantry and seemed green. They never took advantage of their superior firepower and attacked piecemeal along the line. As a result they had no success other than inflicting a few casualties which were quickly replaced by our re-spawn capabilities. I have to admit that I really enjoyed this part of the game. I finally had a chance to use my Stg-44 and it performed well in the encounter. Garrick and myself drew ten or so US troops into their demise and I had the sick satisfaction of hearing most of my victims respond to their tag with a grunt of pain (or let's call it just surprise) and not simply a cry of "hit", although that followed quickly after. My most satisfying action was popping up from the ravine and going semi-auto on three charging Americans, killing them all. The Stg-44 was a psychological weapon on noise alone. I saw sniper98 and Garrick both claim kills and saw Garrick become a casualty but as I said the nature of the US push in this sector was ineffectual. As a result, I made a recon of our camp area and was surprised to find it full of German Luftwaffe troops and Italian citizens. I then learned that the town had been seized and that the only base of operations remaining was our wooded area. It seems that all the heavy weapons that the German FJ depended on had failed them and they were overpowered. Their MG-42, MG-34 and 88mm gun all suffered from mechanical failures. Reeling from this defeat, Lieutenant Hardies (Warlord - our host) wanted to launch a counter-attack but I advised against his battle weary men being involved and asked for the job. He agreed and I gathered our battle-tested force of 3rd PzGr allowing the FJ to fill in our positions and together with the townsfolk we charged back across the bridge and into the town seeking to recapture it. At first my expectations for success were measured as we came under a mortar barrage but seeing very little opposition in front of us Wolfgang led the charge that killed the lone US mortar-man (biged) and retook the town all the way back to the US starting point with no casualties. (Because of the rules, we could advance no further and then began to dig in for the inevitable counterattack.) We were elated and I sent a runner back to the forest command post to report our success but the forest had by that time been abandoned to the US forces. Apparently, after we launched our 3rd PzGr assault on the town, US forces attacked along the grasslands between the woods and the pond threatening to capture the bridge connecting the forest and the back of the town. The 3rd FJ decided to abandon the forest to protect the bridge which was more vital. So a stalemate settled in with US forces holding at both ends of the town. Through attrition and hard fighting German losses continued to mount and during the ensuing hours, both the Hauptmann and Lieutenant of the 3rd FJ fell out of the fight leaving overall command to Obergefeiter Raimund while I held control of the 3rd PzGr. Although we still had defenders our re-spawn tokens had been used up and American heavy weapons were taking their toll with no effective German response. I myself became a shrapnel victim of a bazooka shot. Wherever Germans or Italian partisans congregated inside a building it was blown to bits. Seeing that a good fight had been waged, Raimund and I counseled and he ordered a general surrender. Sadly in hindsight that was a mistake. Rounded up and disarmed we were then marched to the towns outskirts and when Alban tripped into a ravine along the road, American soldiers guarding us mistook it as a general escape attempt and gunned us down without mercy. I only escaped by playing dead and after the rush of confusion another American arrived to control the slaughter. It's all true. It was all captured on film. This was a truly fun event. None of my players were sad to have made the drive. We picked up a new long distance member and certainly everyone there knows we fought very well. Our tactics stepped up a notch on this one. The campsites were super. I doubt we'll achieve that level of sophistication anytime soon at MOA but it shows us who attended what to shoot for. As far as lessons learned we were all pretty much in agreement that shorter scenarios and less respawns make for better action. In an all day battle, especially a grueling 90-degree almost windless day, participants lose concentration and drift off. How else can one explain that US forces did not consolidate their gains on the first city assault. They also had the tokens too close to objectives. Another repeat mistake that we've seen over and over at events. I think a way around that is if you are going to use respawns to have a time limit on the wait before reinsertion. Anyway, without further ado here are my pictures. I can't wait for the video. That video guy seemed everywhere. He really worked for Sean and Josh. Ray was also a large factor in the success. Oh - and lest I forget, it was great to see all my East Coast friends again and thanks for all the hard work event organizers. It showed and I for one am grateful for your dedication to this pastime. s125.photobucket.com/albums/p42/Miker_10/Mignano/Next on my list is Airsoft Expo in Waukesha on 3 Aug 08. Special thanks to Gordak for agreeing to provide interview footage for that recruiting effort. Alban, who is working on that, gets all the credit for that good idea.
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jul 20, 2008 17:27:08 GMT -5
Whew... just got back into town about an hour ago, Alban and Wolfgang are now best of friends Who knew that Pioneers and Snipers had such a deep seated rivalry ;D I'd like to continue the long string of thank yous to Warlord, Gefreiter Raimund and Burt for all the hard work and effort into creating a fantastic theater of battle! I'm going to post a more detailed AAR after I shower (I think my clothes are about ready to stand up on their own and start walking around.. ugggh). Despite the rain putting a damper on the camping and my extreme distaste for capitulation, this event was a blast! My only regret is that it was over so soon. For anyone who wants to know, 45 hours (23 out, 22 back) in the car was well worth playing with these guys. They were gracious hosts and their dedication to the hobby is to be commended!
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jul 20, 2008 19:31:11 GMT -5
Well those comments and AAR's seal it for me. I will be doing my best to make your 09 spring or summer event. I went out to Battlesim this year so I will be doing my best to try and make your event.next year. Only fair to share the love. ;D
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Post by william on Jul 21, 2008 1:02:34 GMT -5
Wow, what a great event.
It started off with all of us Americans waiting anxiously for that mortor shot. Our advance was kind of slow and there was really only 2 things you could take cover on in the first town, other then a small amount on various rocks or trees. We split up pretty evenly behind that garage and the house. I took the garage the first time around and tried to advance by crawling up the side and after hitting one guy and scaring another I was stopped short by a k98.
My second run was on the house side only to be pinned down on one side of it by heavy fire from an MG nest on the hill. I watched the other side of the house while a couple of guys tried to take out the nest with a thompson then a BAR. They would shoot when the guy was concentrating on the other side. They had no luck and after, what was it, 15 minutes? I took out my Colt .45 Single Action Army and said, 'watch out I'll take out the nest' or something like that, not really expecting to help much. There was only one guy in it at that point. I took one shot with the thing and hit the guy (I think in the head because that was all I could see). I watched the bb fly into the bunker but I really didn't expect it to hit the guy in it.
I shot my thompson a bit more, but it broke down. This was around the time we were finishing up capturing the 2nd village. I went back to the white tent after that to change batteries to see if that was the problem. I watched as the partisans ran into the town and raised the axis flag on the big pole.
I was down to only my pistol. We launched a small offensive, I went across the river and the small bridge in the back, a couple of guys went towards the front. I literally walked right into their base and I found two partisans which were taunting the other guys that came around. I shot one in the back and the other ran before I could hit him. We rose the flag before their reinforcements were there but were soon overrun.
Thank you very very much Ed for fixing my Thompson, it performed beautifully after you fixed it. I was just in time for the bigger offensive and we took the town faster then we had earlier in the day. We eventually took the hill with the bunker and the 36th infantry were on your other side it was hopeless for you. I was shooting at the backs of guys shooting the infantry and they were shooting the backs of the guys shooting us.
Great event, thank you so much Sean and all of the other event organizers! I can't wait for the video.
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Post by Karl on Jul 21, 2008 8:08:30 GMT -5
Close to the end of the game my Thompson battery died and all I had was my .45 springer, but I got 1 German with it. Does any body know where to get the grenades that were used in the game?
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Post by Gordak on Jul 21, 2008 8:57:01 GMT -5
The funniest thing that happened to me, was trying to change a B.A.R. mag while getting shot at by a Kar98, I dodged 2 shots (call of duty style) before getting hit, the rounds came wizzing in so fast that I made very little progress in changing the magazine before dying. That’s the last time Ill try that! Next time Im going to ungloriously run away to cover when the mag goes dry.
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Post by panzer IB on Jul 21, 2008 9:01:41 GMT -5
you have to admire the guts of those partisans esp. the ones who got pinned down at the end the game in the building. They fought to the death using only 2 lugars and a spring .45 and pinned down at least one American.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Jul 21, 2008 10:10:25 GMT -5
A big thanks to Sean and his Father!!!! And another thanks to Sean who really had the brunt of the work laid on him. Now for my AAR: This is going to be long, so I will subdivide it into the game and camping:Game AAR:Sean, Austin and Myself, after hearing the mortar shot fired, moved to the first flag location where we expected to meet the 82nd airborne troops head on. To accomplish this, Austin and I decided to move beneath the damn through the water and hold up a defensive position in the tall grass where we figured the 82nd had the best chance of overrunning the first flag by crossing the bridge behind the house. Sure enough we met the entire 82nd Airborne’s forces! I, with my heart pounding out of my chest, fired my first shot in a scrimmage with my D-Boy K-98 to the satisfaction of the first confirmed “kill” of the event. This was quickly followed by an enormous volley of Thompson fire! I then circled back slightly only to take my second shot with the sweet satisfaction of another confirmed “kill”! But this time I did not escape the Thompsons rampage! So I put my kill rag on my head stood up and walked off the field. But… not before hearing Austin engage with the help of Sean from afar and our valuable Italian’s with the MP-40’s. Upon re-spawning I saw Austin, Sean and an Italian fighter walking back to re-spawn. The 82nd took the bridge! I’ll tell you! It is those darn BAR’s that really did it in for us! Anyway… seeing the first objective being overrun by 82nd Airborne forces, I decided to take up position in the MG-nest where the MG-34 was located. Austin and Sean then took up the tree line on the left flank with the Italian fighters and where the Allies were heading. I gave orders to the MG gunner to lay as much fire as he could on the allied forces. He did and I believe he got a few “kills” for the 20 to 30 minutes the gun was working until the battery died. Anyway, before the MG-34 stopped working Sean, Austin and I, with the support of the MG-34 and Italian fighters attempted a few counter attacks to re-capture the first flag. All of these attempts failed miserably. Two such instances I was gunned down mercilessly! And one such instance where Austin and I attempted a quick maneuver with our pistols to remove the allies from behind the garage, was caught on film. Anyway, The Allies soon overran our first MG position where they took up positions in the town and on the first mound. At this point I saw my men running for the large hill with the Pillbox and MG-42 while many others were walking back to the German camp to re-spawn and/or rest as defeat seemed certain. I followed suit to the pillbox, which overlooked the entire village. From this vantage point the MG-42 was to keep the allies pinned while the K-98’s picked them off. This of course never happened as the MG-42 went down in the first three bursts of fire. Out gunned and being overrun we made our last stand in the pillbox with, I believe only four K-98’s and a newly re-charged MG-34 low on ammo. We scored a few more “kills” before a soldier from the 82nd made his way to our flank ordering the surrender of everyone inside the pillbox. Great Job on your behalf! And such was the fall of the Village. From our Campsite we watched as the Allies raised their flag and as our Italian allies made one last ditch effort to inflict casualties upon the Allied forces. Weary and overheated most of us simply sat in our camp and rested. We had some 15 to 20 re-spawns left in our camp and an uncertain amount left in the woods where the 3rd Panzer Grenadiers seemed to be holding off the entire 36 ID with a MP-40, STG-44 and a few K-98’s. This was very much to my surprise as I was sure Allies would have had an easier time overtaking the woods. Anyway, Sean and I gathered what volunteers we could to create a squad and make our way to the woods. It consisted of some FJ and Italian fighters. Upon reaching the woods Otto came over to us wondering why we where there. I broke the tragic news to him that the Allies overran the Village. He reported the success they had and gave us intelligence about where the 36 ID troops were located and whereupon the best firing positions where. He then requested permission to take his more rested troops over to the village for a counter attack. Sean gave the permission and the 3rd Panzer troops headed off while we moved out into the woods. It was not long until we made contact with the 36 ID! It seems in the commotion of us moving into the wood and the 3rd Panzer grenadiers moving out to counter attack the 36 ID withdrew from the woods in pursuit of the 3rd Panzer troops. I can only guess that the 36 ID assumed the 3rd Panzer abandoned their position to re-capture the town and didn’t know the 3rd FJ where present because the 36 ID moved out of cover into the wide open along the pond. Taking advantage of their mistake we quickly moved to intercept and engage. Austin, with his scoped K-98 took the first lethal shot! It wasn’t long before we realized that the 3rd Panzer where going to be surrounded! They held onto one side of the Bridge while the 36 ID moved up a 30 cal and four or five men. I gave the order to engage the 36 ID in order to surround them instead. This worked! But in my attempt to relieve the 3rd Panzer troops from 30 cal MG fire I was taken down. Although, not in vain as the 30 cal was flanked and taken out! We abandon the forest for the most part and re-took the village and the first flag position. Otto gladly reported that the allies seemed to have mistakenly left no one to occupy their newly capture territory. Low on re-spawns, and now having to suffer being attacked on two flanks we divided our forces to hold the two key bridges. One at the first flag and one at the flank of the village. It soon became a battle of attrition. One which I knew we where going to lose; but one I wanted to wade out until all was hopeless! And soon, I was shot out and decided not to re-spawn! I watched at 12 Allied troops moved on the first flag bridge against three defenders. One FJ and two Italian fighters. They held off for quite some time before being eliminated. And then, the inevitable takeover of the first flag, for the third time that day, came. Though this time I knew no counter attack could be mounted. With one re-spawn available the Allies overwhelmed the remaining defenders until only three where left. At this point I consulted Otto about surrendering. We did not wish to see any more of our Italian allies or troops murdered by Bazooka, mortar or machine gun fire. So we disarmed and surrendered to Sam in the middle of the village near the flagpole. It was a great game! Well played by both sides. End of Game casualty results:The Germans & ItalianThe Germans forces consisted of 105 soldiers counting re-spawns. At the time of surrender only 6 players were alive. One re-spawn token was in the German camp and approximately 18 re-spawns available in the woods. Although, since the allies captured the woods we could not re-spawn there. Therefore I’m counting these tokens as captives. This results in the: 81 Germans dead or unaccounted for. 23 Captured. And one of the Panzer Grenadiers missing. One player actually was still manning his post through the entire time we had surrender and forcibly been marched; then executed when one of the German soldiers fell in a ditch. The Allies:The Allied forces consisted of 220 soldiers counting re-spawns. At the time of the Germans surrender the Allies suffered 113 casualties. CampingA HUGE thanks to the long island crew! The period rations were very good and so was the stew! You guys did an amazing Job enhancing the spirit of the Camp! I’m sure a good many of us Germans and Italian fighters enjoyed the rations you guys provided and the stew! It would not have been the camp it was without your help! Thank you to Sam who provided extra Zelts! Thank you 3rd Panzer grenadiers for making the trip! I will know next time not to expect you guys to bleed the Allied forces but to lay a pounding on them. Great! GREAT job holding the Forest lines. I’m sorry the FJ and Italian fighters where overrun despite the clear advantages given to us by our defensive positions! It was those darn BAR’s and the mechanical failure of our MG’s that did us in. Great Job to the 82nd and 36ID! Your campsite was amazing and your eventual combined assault on the Village was most impressive. At one point our men where literally back to back shooting at 82nd paratrooper and 36 regulars. You guys walk away with the victory! Again thanks to all who attended! Thank you for your appreciation of our field setup! It was a tremendous amount of work! I hope to be traveling to my next event and not setting it up!
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Post by panzer IB on Jul 21, 2008 11:28:35 GMT -5
WOW! we held off the entire 36 ID I only saw 5 guys on the right flank where I was defending and after Austin and I wailed on them I saw no more GI's on that flank
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Jul 21, 2008 12:06:53 GMT -5
As far as I’m aware, yes. The entire 36ID’s advance was halted until the 3rd Panzer Grenadiers left the forest to re-capture the Village and after the 3rd FJ left the woods in pursuit of a detachment of five 36ID infantrymen who took up position on the one side of the bridge pinning some 3rd Panzer Grenadiers in a sandbagged guard post on the other side of the bridge closest to the Village.
After which, we all know, the 36 ID moved freely into the woods taking up positions again on the forest side of the bridge where some 3rd Panzer grenadiers, FJ and Italians attempted to hold them off against suicide charges.
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Post by Gordak on Jul 21, 2008 12:35:28 GMT -5
Excellent AARs! Keep em comming,
the rest of you, Try to keep the topic on AAR and stop the one line totally off topic posts, Im serious, we will ban you.
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Post by Ersatzjack on Jul 21, 2008 12:51:11 GMT -5
At the risk of hurting feelings here is a point I want to make regarding the use of the D-Boys in airsoft skirmishing. I already discussed this via PM with some players but the truth of the matter is that the reason that 3rd FJ wasn't more of a defensive force during this battle was that after their support guns failed they needed to count on D-Boys firepower. Yechhhh! several of the Fallschirmjager had to depend on this rifle. On the other hand, the 3rd PzGr had almost 50% of their team armed with K98's (three of seven weapons) and they were my conversions and this gave us a fighting chance against the Bar's and Tommygun assaults (at least on defense). I'm not communicating this to brag about my conversions but just to say that an answer does exist for players wanting a skirmishable 98K. (and BTW, it's not my conversions since I seldom sell outside my unit). The simple truth is my conversions take a back seat to the answer to this problem. I got a chance to see close up the VSR conversion offered by Josh at airsoftcorner.com at this event. Josh is "Burt the Great" on these boards. Initially, he had ordered a sniper Mauser from me last year but he has already redesigned that gun and now makes a spot on conversion for the 98K using real stocks and some real steel parts (bolts) mixed in with a D-Boys 98K (barrel, bolt sleeve and other trim) and has it figured out as a science. The finished product is a VSR-10 clone which can be built to order for FPS capability (and Josh likes his FPS - wink) and looks almost perfect. The bolt and trigger line up nicely and the receiver tang is as it should be. It is beautiful and effective. If the 3rd FJ had been armed with these copies instead, they would have been a force to have been reckoned with. It will only be a matter of time before they are however, as Josh looks after his team members. I'm advertising this against my own interests since he is currently repairing my Ultima MG-42 and working on a MG-34 conversion for me and if he gets more orders I might have to continue to wait. (What am I thinking???) I suspect and hope that he gets some inquiries about his 98K offering as a result of my post. You can't go wrong. He backs up what he sells too. Folks should check out his site. www.airsoftcorner.com/Raimund - Very flattering after-action and very useful. That's the kind of contribution to these boards that we need more of. Flattery of my group is what I mean.
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Post by panzer IB on Jul 21, 2008 13:22:03 GMT -5
As far as I’m aware, yes. The entire 36ID’s advance was halted until the 3rd Panzer Grenadiers left the forest to re-capture the Village and after the 3rd FJ left the woods in pursuit of a detachment of five 36ID infantrymen who took up position on the one side of the bridge pinning some 3rd Panzer Grenadiers in a sandbagged guard post on the other side of the bridge closest to the Village. After which, we all know, the 36 ID moved freely into the woods taking up positions again on the forest side of the bridge where some 3rd Panzer grenadiers, FJ and Italians attempted to hold them off against suicide charges. My AAR (adding to Majorray's) while the grenadiers were pinned down, Austin was able to cover me and I ran across the bridge and manned a abondend .30 in front of some hay bails. I pinned the GI's down so the Panzer grenadiers and Italians could move up to the devfensive positons at the bridge. Then I got flanked by 2 tommy guners. The GI's then moved the .30 and forced the Panzer grenadiers and Italians to retreat under motar fire which killed a group of partisans.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Jul 21, 2008 13:33:45 GMT -5
Ah, That brings back to memory all of those who died by other means.
I witnessed three Italian fighters/scouts die to a single bazooka shot.
I saw Otto taken out by mortar fire and I was happy to be safe enough in the Pillbox, the only object we made “invulnerable” to artillery and other explosives.
I was nearly taken out myself by that darn mortar! A shell (tennis ball) landed about 25-30 feet off to my left when I was taking refuge in the MG-Nest.
I heard an ally get taken out by landmines placed around the first flag bridge. I also heard some stories go around about some grenade kills.
How many people got to use the grenades? And of those who used them… how many used them incorrectly? I saw one allied player pitch one at me instead of toss it at me; which cause the grenade to fail upon hitting the ground so hard. I partly blame myself, Sean and Josh for for the failures because we did not explaining that you must toss the grenades… as in, throw underhand like a softball or toss like a real grenade.
Was anyone taken out by the German Artillery?
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Post by Warlord on Jul 21, 2008 13:38:18 GMT -5
The 3rd FJ was not completely armed with D-Boys rifles. I was carrying one of Joshes VSR K98k conversions, and I must say, even with a stock spring, the rifle was accurate and reliable throughout the entire game (though I must say, with time and practice I think the Dboy can be a skirmishable weapon). But you are correct, one is not enough, and with only 24 rds at my disposal (josh hadn't finished the specially modified mags in time for the game) I was limited as to what I could do. Hopefully we will all be armed with these wonderful conversions by the next WW2 Event (hopefully not hosted by our group! ) A memory of battle.... Towards the end of the game and in the heat of the afternoon, we had just managed to hold of an American onslaught on the main bunker. "The alamo" as they called it, was safe to exit for the moment. Moving around the other side of the hill, I moved towards the first mound to see what I could do about the American presence in that area. Creeping up the path cut through the hill side leading to the mg nest, I caught two unsuspecting little U.S. paratroopers with their pants down....I will not mention any names.. With the only American garrison around the mg nest gone, I took a position there and proceeded to fire my K98 at U.S. Airborne troops attacking the town. They hadn't realized that their flank was compromised and I enjoyed their confusion as to where the shots were coming from. I claimed at least 6 kills from that position, including Gordak and Biged. That was cut short however, when I ran out of ammunition and was pinned in the bunker by someone with a BAR. A fitting end to a great day in the field...a great fight was waged by both sides! I'd like thank everyone once again for coming out here to help this awesome sport grow....thanks to everyone who assisted Ray, Josh, and myself during the course of the day. Everyone consistently followed the rules and we are all proud of the sportsmanship displayed during the course of the game....thanks for your cooperation! Once again...the game is over, but the experience is not! Our video guy will be releasing some video in the coming weeks and I will be compiling his many hours of footage into a possible DVD release! Stay tuned, and looking forward to more AARs and game experiences!
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Post by panzer IB on Jul 21, 2008 13:39:10 GMT -5
Ah, That brings back to memory all of those who died by other means. I witnessed three Italian fighters/scouts die to a single bazooka shot. I saw Otto taken out by mortar fire and I was happy to be safe enough in the Pillbox, the only object we made “invulnerable” to artillery and other explosives. I was nearly taken out myself by that darn mortar! A shell (tennis ball) landed about 25-30 feet off to my left when I was taking refuge in the MG-Nest. I heard an ally get taken out by landmines placed around the first flag bridge. I also heard some stories go around about some grenade kills. How many people got to use the grenades? And of those who used them… how many used them incorrectly? I saw one allied player pitch one at me instead of toss it at me; which cause the grenade to fail upon hitting the ground so hard. I partly blame myself, Sean and Josh for for the failures because we did not explaining that you must toss the grenades… as in, throw underhand like a softball or toss like a real grenade. Then there was an epic faliure of German weaponry combined with the U.S, assault
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Jul 21, 2008 14:20:48 GMT -5
I don’t want to seem like I’m spamming the thread… but I’ll post this for those who do not know what was going on and for those who were not there.
Order of Battle: “The highlights!”
-3rd Panzer Grenadiers move their force into German Right flank known as “The Woods”.
-3rd FJ and Italian fighters take up positions in village area known as “The mounds”.
-82nd Airborne launch successful assault on 3rd FJ and Italian fighter positions at first flag known as “The Damn” or “The house” resulting in the Germans loss of the position and a few casualties.
-36 ID regulars move into woods where they take heavy casualties fighting at a stand still. It is to note that they did not have the artillery support nor the support of the Browning automatic riffles that the 82nd had at their disposal.
-82nd Airborne launches Assault on 3rd FJ positions where they are stopped short by the MG-34 nest and Italians with MP-40’s. Standstill continues until the MG-34 stops working.
-3rd FJ launch unsuccessful counter attack with Italian support to regain control of First flag objective.
-3rd Panzer Grenadiers continue holding their thin line against the 36ID. One Panzer Grenadier is even able to assist the 3rd FJ from across the ponds by eliminating a flanking paratrooper.
-82nd Airborne launches successful attack on the village capturing the first MG-Nest. German reinforcements in the village are now depleted.
-3rd FJ retreats to Heavy fortifications overlooking the Village where the MG-42 malfunctions allowing the 82nd to move more easily to better positions within the town.
-Italian Fighters make a valiant stand!
-82nd paratroopers flank German fortifications overrunning them.
-Italian Fighters and FJ make last ditch stand at edge of Village.
-82nd Paratroopers Gain control of Village.
-3rd FJ and Italian fighters move to the German right flank where the 3rd Panzer Grenadiers happily report their successes.
-3rd Panzer Grenadiers move and recapture the village and first flag with little to no Allied resistance.
-3rd FJ withdraw from “forest area” to secure key bridge to the flank of the village.
-36ID secures forest. Then launches a flanking maneuver against the combined German forces.
-82nd Paratroopers launch assaults on first flag objective without success against 3rd Panzer Grenadier, 3rd FJ and Italian defenders.
-A 3rd Panzer Grenadier single handedly re-captures forest to the knowledge of no one!
-36ID and 82nd Airborne launch massive successive attacks on the village with mortar, bazooka and BAR fire. First objective is lost but recaptured and lost again.
-36ID launches suicide attacks resulting in the overrunning of the rear bridge to the Village area.
-82nd Airborne paratroopers gain control of first MG Nest.
-3rd FJ paratrooper single handedly recaptures the first MG nest.
-36ID and 82 Airborne launch huge successful attack that results in them taking prisoners as remaining 3rd Panzer Grenadiers and 3rd FJ surrender their half of the Village area under orders of Raimund of the 3rd FJ and Otto of the 3rd Panzer Grenadiers with the hope of saving the lives of their men and their Italian allies.
-American forces execute German prisoners on the march.
************************************** The Germans forces consisted of 105 soldiers counting re-spawns. 81 Germans died in combat or are unaccounted for. 23 were captured upon surrender. And one of the Panzer Grenadiers missing. One player actually was still manning his post through the entire time of the Germans surrender.
The Allied forces consisted of 220 soldiers counting re-spawns. At the time of the Germans surrender the Allies suffered 113 casualties.
I think that sums it up! Game over!
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