Karl
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Post by Karl on May 29, 2009 18:41:31 GMT -5
I was serious, just not "I'm gonna kill you if you do that" serious
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Post by m5a11943 on Jun 2, 2009 7:44:46 GMT -5
One thing I know and you should as well is the proper time frame and place for each item. I think we all agree that it is improper to put a drum mag on an M1A1. I purchased it to be used on my M1928A1 and to use for my early Marine impression. I recieved the drum mag the other day and it is one of the most authentic pieces! Dying to use it at an event. Too bad Tommygunner doesn't do JAP. Alittle advice that I use, read a book.
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 2, 2009 9:52:12 GMT -5
One thing I know and you should as well is the proper time frame and place for each item. I think we all agree that it is improper to put a drum mag on an M1A1. I purchased it to be used on my M1928A1 and to use for my early Marine impression. I recieved the drum mag the other day and it is one of the most authentic pieces! Dying to use it at an event. Too bad Tommygunner doesn't do JAP. Alittle advice that I use, read a book. Yes! READ A BOOK! Seems like a lost art these days!
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Post by m1a1 on Jun 16, 2009 16:38:50 GMT -5
I got the Drum mag from ASGI. How can I post pics? The pro boards "help" is usless.
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Medic
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Post by Medic on Jun 16, 2009 16:39:49 GMT -5
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bloq
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Post by bloq on Jun 18, 2009 10:36:54 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the 82nd PIR used drum mags?
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Nimlas
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Post by Nimlas on Jun 18, 2009 11:50:14 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the 82nd PIR used drum mags? Never. In fact, the 82nd PIR never even existed .
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 18, 2009 17:09:19 GMT -5
I've NEVER seen a picture, or had a Vet tell me they used drum mags in airborne units.
Use what was MOST COMMON! You can't go wrong!
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deacon
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Post by deacon on Jun 20, 2009 4:06:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the 82nd PIR used drum mags? Never. In fact, the 82nd PIR never even existed . HAHAHAHA! ;D Bloq the 82nd was a Division, not a Parachute Infantry Regiment. The 505th, 502nd, ect. would be PIRs.
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YankeeDiv26
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Jun 20, 2009 12:42:10 GMT -5
Here are my thoughts on using drum mags.
Don't. 1. extremely uncommon 2. they go against the more realistic gameplay we try to simulate at events. When a SMG's rate of fire, range, and accuracy already are so close to that of a rifle/MG, giving it the equivilant of a boxmag hicap is just another advantage to the already flooded SMG turnout. 3. If you've ever held/used a real one. You'll find that they're a HUGE pain. Very heavy (on an already heavy weapon), awkward, are a pain to load, and rattle. Most guys didn't like them.
By all means, get one if it's something you want, but don't bring it to an event unless u have to. Don't take my word as ghospel as there was ALWAYS the exception to the rule on anything authentic during WWII, but take into consideration that it's the EXCEPTION.
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Post by supernube on Jun 24, 2009 22:27:35 GMT -5
In Robert Blacks book "Rangers in WWII" there is a story of a ranger in Italy using a drum mag. It actually fell out of his gun when he burst in on a room full of Italian soldiers. Lucky for him they wanted to surrender.
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Karl
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Post by Karl on Jun 25, 2009 22:31:39 GMT -5
I think someone on here tried saying that in Robert Black's book he stated that in WWII Rangers had under went parachute training.
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Post by supernube on Jun 26, 2009 21:29:12 GMT -5
I have the book and never saw any parachute training mentioned. It may be the faulty memory of the individual you mentioned. It also had a picture, very early war, of a ranger showing off a thompson with a drum mag.
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 26, 2009 22:33:34 GMT -5
WW2 Rangers weren't parachute trained. Soime reenactors seem to think so,and wear the jump boots, which they NEVER wore either,that is strictly a MODERN thing to do.
Gotta love reenactors, they never let historical facts stand in their way to farbism!
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Post by theriseandfall on Jul 2, 2009 20:10:13 GMT -5
...wear the jump boots, which they NEVER wore either... I'm a little confused by this statement as its well documented that the Rangers of WWII did indeed wear jump boots
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Post by tt on Jul 6, 2009 23:07:55 GMT -5
Some of you are talking about your 1928's, are they custom made or does a company make them, I know there is that one from CYMA, but that is fail though, isn't it?
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Post by theriseandfall on Jul 6, 2009 23:45:52 GMT -5
some of the members here have the mosquito molds and CAW kits that turned the TM thompson into a 1928 and some members of customized and made their own 1928s. The cyma 1928 thompson has an incorrect receiver.
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Post by tt on Jul 7, 2009 8:44:15 GMT -5
Thanks for clairifying.
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Post by detasman on Jul 7, 2009 9:29:43 GMT -5
Yes, for instance, here's my M1928 which consists of a base TM M1A1 Thompson lower receiver mated to a Mosquito Molds upper receiver and barrel, with CAW wood furniture. The drum magazine is the CYMA hi-cap metal magazine offered for all AEG Thompsons. The gun is a mostly accurate representation. One notable exception would be the fire and safety switches. They are correct for a M1A1 but not for an M1928. Incidentally, I do not use this gun for any WW2 reenacting. I simply keep it as a representation of a gangster era gun.
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Post by mischief on Jul 7, 2009 17:47:30 GMT -5
Pretty
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Post by tt on Jul 8, 2009 14:34:21 GMT -5
How much did the Mosquito Molds reciever run you?
Also, where can I get just the Thompson foregrip in your picture? I tried finding one but I could only find one that was real wood and came with a wood stock too.
IMO a drum mag just looks silly without the foregrip, but I won't be using one in WW2 airsoft, just for skirmishes and showing off.
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Post by detasman on Jul 8, 2009 20:18:49 GMT -5
The MM kit is no longer available and they are precious.
Try IMA for a vertical fore grip.
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Post by tt on Jul 9, 2009 8:13:22 GMT -5
Im sorry for my ignorance, but what is IMA?
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Post by detasman on Jul 9, 2009 8:24:37 GMT -5
That's International Military Antiques. They're on the Web at www.ima-usa.com
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Post by tt on Jul 9, 2009 9:07:11 GMT -5
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Post by detasman on Jul 9, 2009 9:47:00 GMT -5
I can't say for certain. The mounting bar on the Cyma Thompson is 1/2 inches wide so you've got that going for you. One thing you may need to be careful of is that the bolt on the vertical grip is at an angle, whereas the bolt on the horizontal grip goes straight in. You may need to make some alteration to the mounting bar to account for this difference.
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Post by tt on Jul 9, 2009 10:25:15 GMT -5
Thanks for pointing that out, well Ill look around some more, if anyone has anymore links or something, please point me in that direction.
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Post by detasman on Jul 9, 2009 10:59:17 GMT -5
After doing some checking on my own guns, I can report the following:
Disclaimer: I do not own the vertical fore grip available at IMA. I own a CAW/Mosquito Molds converted Thompson M1928 with a vertical fore grip made by CAW.
The vertical grip from my M1928 fits well on my Cyma Thompson M1A1. The grip itself fits flush and snug on the mounting bar. The threaded hole in the mounting bar of the Cyma Thompson M1A1 is in the proper location, however the attaching bolt of the vertical fore grip cannot be inserted plainly. Although I did not attempt to screw in the bolt, I can see that the threads in the hole will need modification. This is due to the fact that the bolt on the vertical grip goes in at an angle, where as the bolt on the horizontal grip goes in perpendicluar to the mounting bar. Since the mounting bar is made of aluminum, it would be easy to force the bolt in, creating new, but crude threads. This should hold the bolt securely. However, it would likely mean that resorting back to the horizontal grip could be problematic.
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Karl
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Post by Karl on Jul 9, 2009 14:28:31 GMT -5
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Post by tt on Jul 11, 2009 10:51:37 GMT -5
After doing some checking on my own guns, I can report the following: Disclaimer: I do not own the vertical fore grip available at IMA. I own a CAW/Mosquito Molds converted Thompson M1928 with a vertical fore grip made by CAW. The vertical grip from my M1928 fits well on my Cyma Thompson M1A1. The grip itself fits flush and snug on the mounting bar. The threaded hole in the mounting bar of the Cyma Thompson M1A1 is in the proper location, however the attaching bolt of the vertical fore grip cannot be inserted plainly. Although I did not attempt to screw in the bolt, I can see that the threads in the hole will need modification. This is due to the fact that the bolt on the vertical grip goes in at an angle, where as the bolt on the horizontal grip goes in perpendicluar to the mounting bar. Since the mounting bar is made of aluminum, it would be easy to force the bolt in, creating new, but crude threads. This should hold the bolt securely. However, it would likely mean that resorting back to the horizontal grip could be problematic. That was helpful, I think if I did that, a horizontal one would stay in good enough, because it uses 2 screws to hold it in, the vert grip would ruin one, but the other would be enough to support the horizontal one even with a "lame" screw in it. Thanks
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