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Post by Guinness on Nov 21, 2006 20:29:18 GMT -5
Lookin' good there Thunderbird! 45th ID, from my home state(s) of New Mexico and Colorado for teh win! .....better take that cover off indoors there troop ;D Slainte! -G
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Post by spitfire740 on Nov 21, 2006 20:45:25 GMT -5
That's awesome, I'm pushing to go to University of Arizona and get educated on Aeronautics. My impression is for the most part done. The only things innaccurate are that my helmet is Vietnam era, my pants are late war (my impression is Siegfried Line, so late war isn't correct for my impression), and my boots aren't world war two. I think they are too big, becuase you can see in the photos that the leggings don't fit around them, I had to tuck in the straps becuase they wouldn't fit around the boots. I wonder if roughout service shoes the same thing will happen. How do I get the bottom of the leggings wider to fit around the boots?
Also, I know that blazing orange tip is there. I want to take it off, but at the same time I don't, becuase I don't want it confiscated or anything.
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Post by Guinness on Nov 21, 2006 20:48:21 GMT -5
lemme look- you may just have them on upside-down Generally the Law states that a "Permanent Blaze Orange barrel plug must be affixed for shipment" -Basically that is for importation into the US. (Although some states have this Law for inter-state shipment as well). Other ordinances range from the same requirement for a permenant blaze color applied, to no requirement at all. Further there are generally Local city and state regulations that may classify "Airguns" as Class I 'Weapons' ( I was not familiar with a "Class I" designation ) and although they may not consider them "Lethal" weapons, they still regulate their use, and often you will have ordinances stating "Discharging an AirGun, Air Rifle, BB Gun, or any weapon capable of expelling a projectile within city limits (to be) unlawful" Here is an example of how Massachusetts defines airguns: A Firearms Identification Card is not required to possess an air gun in Massachusetts. Air guns are regulated by G.L. c. 269, ยง 12B which limits their use by minors who are not accompanied by an adult, holding a sporting or hunting license, or holding a permit from the chief of police. Massachusetts law also prohibits anyone from discharging air rifles from across streets, alleys, public ways or railroads or railway right of ways. It should also be noted that a Firearms Identification Card or a License to Carry are not required to purchase an air gun or ammunition therefor. As such, the state FA10 form should not be used to record the sale of such air guns.However, generally, "Use of Air Guns within designated areas" (Paintball parks) is permitted without a requirement for the blaze orange muzzle. It was really meant to distinguish 'toys' from lethal weapons entering the country (or shipment between states) Here in my neck of the woods, the prohibition of discharging any projectile expelling weapon exists within the city limits, however I have spoken to the Po-Po and basically they said this: "We do not arrest kids playing backyard Airsoft unless we get complaints from neighbors- We do not check for or really require a blaze orange barrel, but let me put it this way- If Mrs. Gonzalez looks out her window and sees 12 'Swat Officers' in black with their pistols and automatic rifles out and running all over the place, you can bet we will be responding, She is not going to be able to tell that they are kids usually" "I have personally seen kids and adults all decked out in WWII gear with an arsenal of weapons at the local parks and really just thought "Hey, a reenacting group" and that was it" She also said "Look, your in Colorado- you can go 5 minutes in pretty much any direction and find a nice, big open field or hillside to play- go, ask the owner, and enjoy yourself" So, the advice is, keep your wits about you, don't run down the middle of the street shouting Banzai!! with your M1A1 under one arm, and you can probably lose the orange. It is also very advisable to contact 5-0 and see what they have to say about your local regs. Chances are they will get just as tweaked about your toys as you and want to come play- it happend to me. *Additional disclaimer* We have all read and seen stories about some troubled youth (or Adult, see 'Adam Ant') showing up somewhere inappropriate with a Airsoft gun w/o orange markings and either getting their ticket punched right there or some other undesirable result- The Key is, Use your head and you may get to keep it longer. Slainte! -G
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Post by Guinness on Nov 21, 2006 22:17:40 GMT -5
yeah, I think thats upside down It should be widest at the foot end where they cover the boot, although I don't wear them, so I could be wrong. Heck- that's why I have double-buckles. It's not to late to ask Santa for a pair from At The Front (Our own Capt. Zak doesn't have his in yet ) -G
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Post by spitfire740 on Nov 21, 2006 22:31:33 GMT -5
But isn't the strap that goes under the boot and attach to the other side supposed to be on the bottom? I think it's on right, but they may be too small for me. And I think double buckles are late war? My goal is to get more mid-war. Thanks for the hints, and thank you for the information regarding the orange tip laws! I probably will remove it, I think we (chicagoins) basically have the same restrictions as your area, not too strict. I don't bring it into public anyways.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 21, 2006 23:09:33 GMT -5
Your leggings appear to be a size one or two. Three is average and I've seen them run as large as a size 5. You have them on fundamentally correct. I can't however figure out why your strap isn't threaded through the buckle? By the way congratualations on that as you can't believe how many times I see a flawed effort. The strap indeed goes under the arch of your foot with the strap end going through the buckle to the outside. You may want to try wearing them a little higher on your ankle so the narrowest part links up with the narrowest part of your leg. (barely let the strap end push through your buckle) You've got the hooks on the outside and the hooks appear to be facing the rear so they won't snag on brush. Good job on that. Leggings were typically worn on ankle high boots not full sized boots so part of what you're trying to fit over are your boots. I think too you have a small set of leggings or hefty calves or a combination of both!
By the time M-43s were being commonly worn a lot of GIs had dumped their leggings for double buckles
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Post by Russian on Nov 22, 2006 18:26:50 GMT -5
Spitfire, you are wearing your leggings on the wrong foot! The buckle should be on the back flap, not the front. This will allow it to run under the boot, unless you also hav the wrong sized leggings. (Hope I'm right on this, that's how I have always worn them.) If I'm right, just change the leg the legging is on, and you should be good to go.
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Post by Nimlas on Nov 22, 2006 20:47:57 GMT -5
Nice impression Spitfire Do what John said, and hike those leggings up higher. You also, like Russian said, have them on the wrong feet. Whatever you do, DO NOT them on so that laces are on the inside of your calf. You will trip and fall, probably destroying leggings in the process. I've done it, it hurts. I also suggest you repaint your helmet with correct WWII OD paint. Like brother Guiness said, ATF/Santa can hook you up with it. Here's a handy helmet repaint guide! www.wwiireenacting.co.uk/articles/0001/index.htm
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Post by spitfire740 on Nov 22, 2006 22:18:39 GMT -5
What confuses me, is that the hooks are facing the rear, but are on the wrong foot? If I switched the feet, the hooks would be facing forward.
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Post by Russian on Nov 23, 2006 14:29:05 GMT -5
Yea, the hooks face forward, doesn't really matter. Just, like Nimlas said, make sure not to put the laces inward. Alot of my comrades have fallen on their faces because of this in games.
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Post by Guinness on Nov 24, 2006 16:03:21 GMT -5
Tommygunner,
I am sorry to report that after review of your images, I am forced to advise you of your rights under WW2AA Photo Code, Section 5-15.2006May, Paragraph 6,[/i] "Image Posting Section Regulations":
"...Any image(s) posted found in compliance with all prescribed requirements as per WW2AA regulation 4-02.2004April, and WW2AA Office of Instruction and Propaganda (OIP) Circular Section 8-22.2005Aug shall be posted in the appropriately compartmentalized section"
Basically what that means is...........
This should be in the "Stitch Knot-See" section bro!!!!
Looks fantastic! Please move it there because thats where it really belongs!
Slainte!
-G
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Post by TommyGunner on Nov 24, 2006 16:14:48 GMT -5
Thanks, this USMC impression is my way of thanking my actuall ww2 USMC counterpart Joe Levato for all he did from 42-45 in the Pacific.
TommyGunner
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Post by dutch508 on Dec 3, 2006 11:26:43 GMT -5
My impression of a Marine Raider at DEC 2nd's game in Bloomington, Indiana. Thompson M1A1 'Tokyo Mauri'M1 steel helmet with early pattern cover, Frog Suit from 'At The Front'Web belt, Aid poutch, Canteen M6 knife sheath, Grenade, and Fairborne dagger 'What Price Glory'Thompson 3 mag poutch 'IMA'Boots 'Cav Store'
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Post by 2ndranger on Dec 3, 2006 11:36:11 GMT -5
Woah excellent impression, Id be shaken in my boots if I were a Jap!
Schutze
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 3, 2006 14:27:22 GMT -5
It does matter that the hooks face to the rear and are on the outside. That is the ciorrect way to wear leggings to avoid snags and be correct. I continue to be confused by the way your leggings look in the picture. The hooks appear to be placed right and facing the right way but your buckle should be facing down on the outside of the forward portion of the leggings with the strap (from the otherside weaved under your foot arch and then insretd upward into the buckle. Your strap appears to have somehow been sewn on incorrectly ?
I should do a pictorial on how to wear them as they always seem be put on wrong by about half the people at our events. The do fit way better over 3/4 high boots then full length boots by the way.
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Post by savoy6 on Dec 3, 2006 18:17:00 GMT -5
good looking outfit Dutch.....you got the right side out for that background...lol...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2006 20:16:00 GMT -5
awesome, glad to see another jarhead! one thing though the fairbain skyes knife is british SAS if im correct you need to get a KA-BAR and some marine style suspenders! (my personal thing) a haversack and knapsack would be cool too. aweosme impression man!!
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Post by dutch508 on Dec 3, 2006 20:36:24 GMT -5
A few things to work on for the impression, but I was pretty happy with the whole thing during the game. The game lasted about 6 hours, with the normal small breaks to return to the re-spawn locations.
Love the frogsuit. It wears very well. I wore GI suspenders rather than a belt and was very comfortable the entire game. The jacket is loose enough that I could wear a sweater underneath with no problem. Found the lack of (a bunch of) pockets a bit annoying at first.
The K-Bar doesn't fit in the m6 sheath, as I found out as I was getting ready to head out the door. I'm using my K-Bar I had in Iraq this last time, and the leather sheath I got with it is long gone. Will have to pick up a new one. The Fairborn is British, and like alot of the origonals the tip is broken off and reground down. Still would like to get a Raider dagger- but they are hard to find.
Need to add:
A second canteen- many of the Marines started carrying a second canteen. Hot, Humid weather = lots of water to be drank.
M41 jacket- Cold weather sucks. I'm wearing a 5 button wool army sweater under the frog jacket. It was about 40 degrees (F) and cold enough that if you stood around a bit you felt it. With a M43 jacket the whole impression could be Korea as well.
Boondockers- I am wearing M43 buckleboots. You can't see them with the trousers down but to be perfect, so to speak...
Other thoughts:
The webbing is a mix of GI and Marine issue- very common in the Corps. I've got on M36 suspenders. The musset bag, isn't seen in the pick, has a GP strap so I can wear it over my shoulder.
I carried five total mags, one high cap (420) and four 60 rounders (three in the mag poutch one in the musset bag). Never broke the 60 rounders out.
The loadout was light and suprisingly complete. The helmet didn't bother me as much as I had thought it may. But I've worn one for the last 23 years so maybe I am just used to it.
The Thompson is stock but packs a putch within it's range. Will upgrade it to reach out and touch people.
Would like to get a M1 Garand just to make the whole thing sing. Then a 1903 springfield just to make it sing in four part harmony.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 3, 2006 20:49:04 GMT -5
In another month or so both should be available and affordable in airsoft versions. M1 garand is available now in both gas and AEG and the springfield has several club members on it as we speak.
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Post by dutch508 on Dec 3, 2006 21:21:04 GMT -5
With the Thompson at least you are not outgunned at a typical airsoft event. A semi auto garand would have your a$$ kilt against trigger happy hi-cappers I would think. But I'd love to play a game against others with K98s. Real squad weapons as per the various MTOEs. It would really change the game of sprey and pray so typical currently.
As you saying someone's coming out with a AEG Garand, then?
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Post by 29ththerealpimps on Dec 3, 2006 22:21:34 GMT -5
John ( 2nd bat) makes them
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 4, 2006 0:20:12 GMT -5
Go to the technical section and look under Garand AEG for more details then you probably want or need to know and in various threads the full story pretty much unfolds. You can pretty much follow the full development process chronicaled over almost two years now. I finalized my design and started selling them about 8 months ago in both kit and finished gun form. I've sold 20 finished guns so far and six or seven kits. Kits start at $300.00. Finished guns are now starting at $560.00 to $900.00 depending on upgrade levels and trim finish levels. They hold their own quite nicely in a conventional skirmish and obviously are great for reenactment airsoft.
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Post by dutch508 on Dec 5, 2006 14:10:28 GMT -5
DEC 2 game. Ignore the starbucks coffee cup...
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Post by bataanscout on Dec 5, 2006 16:18:53 GMT -5
I have two SWD's. One doesn't have a ballistic lense. The other one which I got from ebay did come with ansi rated ballistic lenses (both the smoke and the clear). They fog like crazy though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2006 16:41:47 GMT -5
SEMPER FI
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Post by Guinness on Dec 5, 2006 22:26:13 GMT -5
-Snip- DEC 2 game. Ignore the starbucks coffee cup... No no, Starbucks is as important as a full canteen in the field soldier! Lemme see...I'm sure it's in the rule book here somewhere....... Looks great there Dutch! Slainte! -G
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Post by Gordak on Dec 8, 2006 12:47:13 GMT -5
Nice USMC impression, The camo must have been VERY effective!
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Post by phantom12321 on Dec 18, 2006 16:57:59 GMT -5
Well, in the past year, I've had a good chunk of cash to invest in this wonderful activity with the most noticeable advancement being my good friend Tokyo Tommy. I don't know if I'd say it's improved by leaps and bounds but, it's noticeable. I have a couple of pictures and I'll get some more later. I mostly need secondary stuff now. Canteen, carlisle, E tool, etc. Here's what I had June of 05 here's the best picture I have of 06 but, it doesn't show much off. I'll put that Christmas money to good use and then I'll take some good pics. In other words, I'M WORKING ON IT!
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Post by spitfire740 on Dec 18, 2006 17:26:15 GMT -5
Those are some really cool action photos! You just need a thunderbird on your shoulder and you are set! Great work, and I look forward to seeing the whole impression when it is complete.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2006 19:45:21 GMT -5
some VERY quick pics of my airborne loadout, before i beef it up on monday! kit list, m-1c helmet garrison cap corcoran jump boots m42's web belt +36' suspenders and mussete bag thompson ammo bag
(not shown) m3 trench knife and m6 shealth para rope m6 gas mask bag 5 cell thompson pouch WE 1911(still need web belt holster)
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