gryphon
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Post by gryphon on Dec 10, 2007 8:28:07 GMT -5
Jager, the battery will be accessed by removing the buttplate. On my milling pattern masters, I have to leave stubs on either end so that the master and the blanks to be shaped can be chucked into the copy lathe. Once the milling is done, the stubs are sawn off on a bandsaw and the battery and barrel guide paths will be open. Bat, the plan now is to do the first production run at the introductory price for WW2AA members. After that first run, my PPSh-41s will be offered for sale exclusively through www.airsoftbattlezone.com at full price. |
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Post by valtteri on Dec 10, 2007 9:36:59 GMT -5
Oooo. Expect several orders from Finland once you start selling those.
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Post by bluenose68 on Dec 10, 2007 9:47:35 GMT -5
How can I order one? Do you take Paypal and how long to get one of these babies?
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Post by gryphon on Dec 10, 2007 11:01:37 GMT -5
I won't officially accept any orders until the test run of four is done (I need to work out the manufacturing bugs on a short run before plunking for the materials for a production run.)
I'll announce here when I'm ready to accept pre-orders, probably sometime in February. At that time, I will explain how to place an order with us and tell the total number for sale at the introductory price. Stone Gryphon Studio, my shop, can accept personal check, money order, MasterCard or VISA. Sorry, no Paypal for the introductory price, but I believe Airsoft BattleZone plans on accepting Paypal on the full-price guns.
I'll post all these details at the appropriate time. I'm glad other people are as excited as I am about having Papashas in play!!
I'd better go back to the shop now......
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Post by Jager.Drü on Dec 10, 2007 15:12:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. Now need to sell my other car to get one!
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Dec 11, 2007 0:26:59 GMT -5
I should have grabbed all the molds when I was 2 feet away from them. That would have put an end to all this silly talk of ppsh's. Bah, humbug!
They look great up close in production. You allied types are lucky hombres.
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Post by Ripper on Dec 11, 2007 12:11:56 GMT -5
SWEET!! I know I'll be buying one.
I know a number of fellow Russian mil-sim enthusiasts that would love to have one as well.
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Post by redvonhammer on Dec 11, 2007 17:07:25 GMT -5
ersatzjack2: Some German Osttroppen used PPSH-41`s, and as far as I know they brought the PPSH`s to the fighting in Normandie as well  This is a great opportunity for you guys to stock up on a couple of those and you will have a smg that has more rounds in the mag, and anybody that knows history (Just about all ww2 airsofters, considering all the time they use to get the uniforms and equipment. Should also know that some germans used PPSH 41`s.) And as such I don`t think they`d complain, but rather be optimistic and happy to see someone going for kits that you do not see nowadays This PPSH really looks promising, very promising! I hope this will encourage Russian kits. Which I for one haven`t seen yet! S! RvH |
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Post by schmitty on Dec 11, 2007 18:17:15 GMT -5
At this stage in WWII airsoft I'm just glad to see someone show up with a period weapon at all. Even if it isn't exactly what they would have had for a particular unit or battle.
Schmitty
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Dec 11, 2007 18:18:45 GMT -5
ersatzjack2: Some German Osttroppen used PPSH-41`s, and as far as I know they brought the PPSH`s to the fighting in Normandie as well This is a great opportunity for you guys to stock up on a couple of those and you will have a smg that has more rounds in the mag, and anybody that knows history (Just about all ww2 airsofters, considering all the time they use to get the uniforms and equipment. Should also know that some germans used PPSH 41`s.) And as such I don`t think they`d complain, but rather be optimistic and happy to see someone going for kits that you do not see nowadays This PPSH really looks promising, very promising! I hope this will encourage Russian kits. Which I for one haven`t seen yet! S! RvH Don't worry, ersatzjack2 just likes to give his axis camerades an upper hand (those spring k98's took a toll on us allies), he knows that these ppsh's are definitely a good thing for us WWII airsofters. I for one think these new PPSH-41's will not only be a great product, but really tempt people to do russian more. Hopefully mother-russia (thats you gryphon  ) will be able to meet the supply wanted by us airsofters. |
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Post by DeadLock on Dec 13, 2007 1:14:51 GMT -5
Hi Gryphon! Looks like an awesome piece of work you've got there. How's the weight? I'm looking forward to more pictures. -Thomas- |
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 13, 2007 16:16:02 GMT -5
I think you will sell a bunch of them. Hopefully that will lead to more exciting offerings from you shop. This is very exciting.
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Post by gliderrider on Dec 14, 2007 16:55:00 GMT -5
That looks amazing. How did you make the mould for the upper/barrel guard? Did you make a pattern or make the moulds off an original?
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Post by gryphon on Dec 14, 2007 19:09:03 GMT -5
Here are pics of the receiver/barrel shroud pattern pieces on their mount board. They were made from maple with five layers of automotive primer sanded back with 600 grit, sprayed with mold release, and block-molded with two-part pourable silicone rubber.   |
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Post by gliderrider on Dec 14, 2007 19:25:38 GMT -5
Thanks for those piks.
So how did you cut out the slotts for the barrel shroud and fore sight on the finnished casting?
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Post by biged on Dec 15, 2007 4:35:30 GMT -5
SOB that is really good looking...
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Post by gryphon on Dec 15, 2007 13:22:22 GMT -5
The little dimples on the pattern are centers. The ends of each cooling slot are drilled out using a forsner bit, then the ends are joined to form the slot with a 1/8" Rototool Sabrecut bit chucked into a dremel (a drywall hole cutter would work just as well.) It's not quite as tedious as I was afraid it would be, but it is a somewhat time-consuming step, and I can see that the forsner bit will dull quickly. I might try a solid carbide bit next, when my forsner is too dull to cut anymore. The whole process could probably be done with a plunge router if I built the needed clamping jigs....
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Post by gliderrider on Dec 15, 2007 13:49:35 GMT -5
That makes sense.
You would probably have a similar problem with dulling whatever type of blade/bit/cutter you use.
The router Idea sounds good if you are making loads of them but if you are just doing 4 then it would probably take more time to make the jig and clamps than it normally takes you to do the cutting.
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Post by gryphon on Dec 16, 2007 12:23:25 GMT -5
Exactly. I kinda want to see where demand volume settles at the full unit price before I invest in yet more fiberglass-specific tooling; besides, I don't yet know the production volume my copy lathe guy is willing to contemplate. Right now, it looks like he can't mill my 4 test-run stock blanks until after Christmas. By the end of December, however, I should have most of the big answers. So Take Heart, Comrades, soon we will smite the Hitlerite stooges and their Fascist lackies with our quick, bold, sudden and independent Submachinegun Activity!
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Post by vanhalen213tx on Dec 16, 2007 12:27:01 GMT -5
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by gliderrider on Dec 16, 2007 20:03:16 GMT -5
Yes Comrade gryphon, Kill the invaders, this is the call of your mothers.
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Post by Adler69 on Dec 16, 2007 23:23:07 GMT -5
You could also sell it to a few VC guys , since a bunch of the PPSh-41s found their way into the hands of the VC during the war
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Post by Capt. Zak on Dec 27, 2007 17:26:32 GMT -5
I said it before...I'll say it again. Son-of-a-bitch! Put me down for one!
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Post by Lev on Dec 28, 2007 15:26:41 GMT -5
Wow. This is really going to add some punch to the Soviets! How many of your test guns will be operational at the April Neilsville event? Great work. You are a gentleman and a scholar. I'm tempted to pick one up for my Ostfront German impression, but I think I should let the Soviets get first dibs. Feel like plying your trade for a new German gun in the future? |
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Post by gryphon on Dec 28, 2007 15:33:27 GMT -5
The plan right now is to have four ready for field-test at the February event. What German gun did you have in mind, Herr Udo?
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Post by Lev on Dec 28, 2007 15:48:37 GMT -5
The plan right now is to have four ready for field-test at the February event. What German gun did you have in mind, Herr Udo? A 9mm conversion of the PPSh that accepts AGM MP40 mags would be super swell. That's what I had in mind Would that be feasible? |
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Post by gryphon on Dec 28, 2007 17:24:02 GMT -5
I think that would be entirely do-able. Stay tuned....
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Post by Capt. Zak on Dec 29, 2007 5:14:14 GMT -5
The plan right now is to have four ready for field-test at the February event. What German gun did you have in mind, Herr Udo? A 9mm conversion of the PPSh that accepts AGM MP40 mags would be super swell. That's what I had in mind Would that be feasible? Yes! What Udo said. Georg wants one too. ;D That would be an MP-41(r) by the way. |
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Post by Lev on Dec 29, 2007 11:09:07 GMT -5
I thought that the MP-41(r) was the German designation for an unmodified Russian PPSh? It's quite possible I'm wrong. Just to cut through the terminology fog, I had something like this in mind:  Gryphon, quite plainly, you are the man. Only a fencer could be as cool and skillful as you are. |
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Dec 29, 2007 14:34:35 GMT -5
I said it before and I'll say it again... Ppsh's, bah, humbug. Why do you need them? I say grab a Mosin Nagant and a cup full of moxie and you'll still strike fear into your opponents. Awww, hell, what the heck am I saying. They look SOOOO cool. I can clearly understand why people would want their coolness. |
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This is a great opportunity for you guys to stock up on a couple of those and you will have a smg that has more rounds in the mag, and anybody that knows history (Just about all ww2 airsofters, considering all the time they use to get the uniforms and equipment. Should also know that some germans used PPSH 41`s.) And as such I don`t think they`d complain, but rather be optimistic and happy to see someone going for kits that you do not see nowadays 
) will be able to meet the supply wanted by us airsofters.
