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Post by freeman on Feb 15, 2010 12:27:47 GMT -5
hey im new to ww2aa, im putting a us paratrooper uniform together! so hopefully it should be done before the event... im planing on making this event! but was wondering if i could use my black paratrooper boots and m2 carbine (if i can get it fixed) for it? let me know thanks! i allready have the m42 shirt and a korean war helmet witch im going to put parts on it and i have a black holster but i'll buy what i need...
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Post by Fusilier on Feb 15, 2010 15:38:10 GMT -5
Black jump boots are post War. Do you have the correct trousers? Web gear? Paratrooper liner for the helmet? Brown holsters are WW2.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Feb 15, 2010 17:04:21 GMT -5
Own personal curiousity can you sand down boots and redye or repolish them also the holster? Just curious Bob?
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Post by Adler69 on Feb 15, 2010 17:10:38 GMT -5
It would be easier and faster to by Brown shoe spray paint and go over the entire boot with it.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Feb 15, 2010 17:15:32 GMT -5
How bad will that look? I have repros and they suck. They kill my feet.
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Post by Fusilier on Feb 15, 2010 18:54:29 GMT -5
Own personal curiousity can you sand down boots and redye or repolish them also the holster? Just curious Bob? >> That seems like an awful lot of work if you ask me! That was my big pet peeve in SPR. All the paratroopers were wearing black jump boots! Bugged the hell outta me! I still have the black jump boots I wore when I was in,as well as a repro brown pair. Both made by Corcoran,the original jump boot manufacturer. I would say no,you couldn't do it. Just get the correct ones.
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Post by mccallion on Feb 15, 2010 19:52:44 GMT -5
the best repro jump boots that i have seen are the at the front ones there a bitch to break in but once they are there great and extremly comfterble and there on sale atm at atf for 105 bux!
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Post by CharleyNovember on Feb 15, 2010 20:00:09 GMT -5
I have ATF repros. I f'in hate them. I have weird feet. I will try wetting them and going for a long walk and see if they mold to my feet as some have suggested. I wish I could fit a stretcher in there my left foot is wider than my right it kills me.
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Post by hairy apple on Feb 15, 2010 20:23:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I feel your pain on the jump boots. Those things are awful. After a long day it feels like someone took a hammer to the bottom of my feet. Plus blisters. However, I've found that double socking, and gel soles help a lot.
I can't even imagine how the airborne fought for days and weeks at a time wearing those things.
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Post by Fusilier on Feb 15, 2010 20:39:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I feel your pain on the jump boots. Those things are awful. After a long day it feels like someone took a hammer to the bottom of my feet. Plus blisters. However, I've found that double socking, and gel soles help a lot. I can't even imagine how the airborne fought for days and weeks at a time wearing those things. >>> Jump boots are NOT ideal field boots! We NEVER wore them in the field! No traction,and SO not comfortable to be trouncing around the woods for a week or two. I made the mistake of wearing mine to the field, ONCE! In December. Damn near froze my feet off! Lots of slipping and sliding. Again,crappy field boots. But damn they look awesome spit shined in your class A's! Like I said,I got lucky and got really nice repros made by the original manufacturer. I've NEVER worn them to the field,just with my class A's.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Feb 15, 2010 20:45:57 GMT -5
You in the German hat! You are not helping me here. lol
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Post by Adler69 on Feb 15, 2010 20:55:23 GMT -5
How bad will that look? I have repros and they suck. They kill my feet. Some of the guys in our Living History Group had theirs painted and they looked great . My Jump boots fit great and don't bother me at all , the most comfortable are my FJ jump boots , the Corcorans are good and the Italian ones are ok.
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Post by Guinness on Feb 15, 2010 22:23:43 GMT -5
I gave all my boots the neetsfoot oil treatment.... feel like slippers now
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 15, 2010 22:33:30 GMT -5
All the primary charcters in SPR had brown Corcorans I watched carefully and I think in the rain storm around the village what you're seeing are brown boots that are very very wet.
I don't know a single airsoft WW2 event that would have a problem with a player showing up with black boots. Is it ideal ? No? At this stage in our growth is it acceptable? That varies from group to group but in my book, absolutely. This hobby is stiffled by the "perfection" mindset that is a major put-off for a lot of people considering participating. My philosophy is hook em and watch them improve.
It's frustrating to hear remarks from folks who to my knowledge have NEVER attended a WW2 airsoft event expressing their standards on newly interested potential participants.
In my career in the army I wore jump boots in the field along with jungle boots. I wasn't crazy about either. Probably had more to do with terrain, long distances on foot and a ruck sack than the boots.
Namsofters are more anal about the gear and weapons than any of my veteran buddies and I and to the man we all find their obsession for detail a bit queer. I've learned alot from them and appreciate the help but still find it weird. Especially when they lament that their perfection is "being done for the vets!" We wouldn't typically know the difference or give a applesauce .
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Post by Guinness on Feb 15, 2010 23:26:12 GMT -5
Hear, hear John.
Although I wasn't old enough to serve during the Vietnam Conflict, only by about 5 years, I was in the service almost immediately after.
What I noticed when I was in was that no two troops EVER wore the same thing- We weren't even issued 'matching' gear as we stumbled through equipment issue day in bootcamp, much less when we got to our duty stations.
To paraphrase a (in)famous recent Secy. of Defense, "You go to war with the (equipment) you have" ;D
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Post by Fusilier on Feb 15, 2010 23:26:19 GMT -5
This hobby is stiffled by the "perfection" mindset that is a major put-off for a lot of people considering participating. My philosophy is hook em and watch them improve.
It's frustrating to hear remarks from folks who to my knowledge have NEVER attended a WW2 airsoft event expressing their standards on newly interested potential participants. >> If not perfection,what,imperfection?? I don't believe it scares people away .If somebody told me I HAD to have such and such a piece or gear/uniform,I would strive to get it,not get all pissed off and take my ball and go home. I WISHED there were people like that in my very first unit. Instead,I got stuck in a VERY bad unit,and wasted hundreds of dollars on inferior and wrong gear. If somebody wants help to find the right stuff,I will point them in the right direction,or loan them the proper gear. I have done it in the past,and will continue to do it for the good of the hobby,and the overall enjoyment to those involved. Sorry to get on a rant!
I also wore jungle boots in the field. Loved them! Were like sneakers to me! The current tan suede boots are even better!
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Post by Adler69 on Feb 15, 2010 23:38:15 GMT -5
Try going to war wearing uniforms , boots , weapons and webgear from all over Europe and the US , not fun at all , old gear , weapons that even tough are of the same caliber parts are not interchangeable between rifles.
Anyways , back to the game , sounds like it will be a good one , 24/48 hour full immersion events are tons of fun.
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Post by piper318 on Feb 16, 2010 7:37:17 GMT -5
I went to my first two events in black boots and even a black holster I certainly will not turn anyone away for a minor coloration problem and specially if they've tried to make the effort on the rest of their uniform. It is the people that show up in blue jeans and a T-shirt with a helmet on that I'd find annoying when everyone else makes an effort to create the right atmosphere for an event
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Post by CharleyNovember on Feb 16, 2010 9:13:21 GMT -5
True story: tennis shoes and a bright green track suit with a jansport back pack."Will this work for the llied side?"..I applesauce you not.....:facepalm:
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Post by Guinness on Feb 16, 2010 12:16:12 GMT -5
Well....at least you have new sneakers now.... ;D
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Post by freeman on Feb 16, 2010 20:09:59 GMT -5
Black jump boots are post War. Do you have the correct trousers? Web gear? Paratrooper liner for the helmet? Brown holsters are WW2. actually I don't have much yet but I can tell you I have a paratrooper liner with the "a" yokes and I have an m42 shirt and my boots are corcoran. but i don't have the m42 jump pants nor the web gear. But I'm going to get most of the stuff before this event. the helmet I was told was from the Korean war but I'm going to change the chin cup for a leather repro to give the ww2 look. Oh and the yokes I think are a worn kahki and I think it's an m1c because it has the swivel hook loop things on the steel pot part.
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Post by MAS on Feb 16, 2010 22:27:52 GMT -5
may I attend as a lost brit para?
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Post by Fusilier on Feb 16, 2010 23:28:59 GMT -5
may I attend as a lost brit para? >> Brit Paras weren't at Brecourt. Nowhere near it.
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Post by Warlord on Feb 17, 2010 0:45:49 GMT -5
Give it a rest Bob. "101st 506th Airborne and any western allied impressions that were involved in the Normandy landings are permitted." I understand that you mean well with keeping authenticity high but the event organizer has the final say here.
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Post by Guinness on Feb 17, 2010 1:24:34 GMT -5
...and he did say "lost"
+ what Warlord said...
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 17, 2010 2:08:05 GMT -5
Fusilier. Geezus!!!!! Fusilier, Find a foxhole and crawl into it Am I missing something and you're the one hosting, sponsoring and putting on this event? Oh you're not? Set whatever standards you want for your event and no one here is going to call you out on them or post a comments telling others what they need to attend.
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Post by kalbs on Feb 17, 2010 5:04:50 GMT -5
Seems to me to be more about playing "dress-up" than playing airsoft these days.
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Post by piper318 on Feb 17, 2010 7:28:52 GMT -5
As an event organizer you have to balance authenticity with compatibility if I was going to require 100% authenticity then I could only allowed 12 U.S. paratroopers from the 506th that wouldn't be much fun. The lost British paratrooper would be an interesting twist I look forward to seeing that impression. And any other Allied impression that was there are at Normandy thank you everyone for your interest and excitement we are three months out and I will continue to build upon this event check back often to see what's new. Thanks again signed piper
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Post by Gerry on Feb 17, 2010 8:23:30 GMT -5
All>>>> Bob simply stated- "Brit Paras weren't at Brecourt. Nowhere near it. " He never claimed to run the event, set the rules or attendance but yet it seems that everyone was just waiting to jump on him for something. Telling him to "give it a rest" or "crawl into to a foxhole" is 100% uncalled for in response to a small statement that is 100% accurate, Bob never told MAS that he couldn't attend and he deserves an apology.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Feb 17, 2010 10:26:19 GMT -5
Bob's a big boy and thick skinned. Reactionary comments made to him are a build-up from previous posts he has made along similar lines.. More of a straw that broke the camels back kind of thing. We all know that Bob is a stickler for authenticity and I think he will admit he is not the most tactful person with telling people they are inaccurate. A lot of people grow tired of that sort of abruptness and snap. I can say the same thing about myself. Some people probably tire of my accomodating nature towards people and impressions. In this instance I agree I think Bob was just mentioning that brit paras never made it to Brecourt. Nowhere did he state "MAS you cannot attend". It wasn't his place to say that and he didn't lets move along. Can we call it Pegusus Manor perhaps?
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