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Post by Fusilier on Dec 22, 2010 23:44:30 GMT -5
Not that there is anything wrong with that! >> Funny this comes up withing days of repealing DADT! ;D
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Post by Rapture on Dec 22, 2010 23:46:27 GMT -5
Not that there is anything wrong with that! >> Funny this comes up withing days of repealing DADT! ;D DADT gets repealed and the forum goes crazy!
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Post by sprinkles on Dec 27, 2010 3:37:11 GMT -5
For beginners this isn't bad but for a person that has been a German and still has these over 2yrs then we have a problem.
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Post by txtrench on Jan 7, 2011 22:10:49 GMT -5
my $.02
i was in germany for 12 years and was married to a german who had a grandfather i had many long talks with who fought in russia. on the last 3 years i was in mainz and helped a local antik dealer on the weekends.
the stuff we would find in the old trunks or hidden in the attick would blow your mind. MG42s, MP40s, a schreck, PZ fausts, 20mm ammo one time. well any way i at one time had my hands on SS dot hats, field glass covers, map bags, etc... i still have a splinter ruck and other items. as my one time grand father in law told me the going rate for a hat to be made was a bottle of what ever they could find in there area. in his unit there was a field tailer who kept everything sewn, on his "off" time he made what ever you wanted. many of the items you say they never had i have in my hands, why i dont have them now? the hat sold for over 2500 euros. i was able to bring 2 x 40ft containers full of WWII gear back, so i think i did pretty well.
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Jan 8, 2011 0:42:49 GMT -5
Yes, you did pretty well. Thanks for the enlightening post.
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Post by FlyingSquirrelcat on Feb 11, 2011 18:59:18 GMT -5
I didn't know they repealed DADT
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Post by shadycadence on Feb 11, 2011 20:59:45 GMT -5
my $.02 i was in germany for 12 years and was married to a german who had a grandfather i had many long talks with who fought in russia. on the last 3 years i was in mainz and helped a local antik dealer on the weekends. the stuff we would find in the old trunks or hidden in the attick would blow your mind. MG42s, MP40s, a schreck, PZ fausts, 20mm ammo one time. well any way i at one time had my hands on SS dot hats, field glass covers, map bags, etc... i still have a splinter ruck and other items. as my one time grand father in law told me the going rate for a hat to be made was a bottle of what ever they could find in there area. in his unit there was a field tailer who kept everything sewn, on his "off" time he made what ever you wanted. many of the items you say they never had i have in my hands, why i dont have them now? the hat sold for over 2500 euros. i was able to bring 2 x 40ft containers full of WWII gear back, so i think i did pretty well. Yes, very interesting, thank you very much for posting that. ****SMALL RANT WARNING**** Did everyone notice how this post was like a nuke in this topic? It absolutely DIED after that. I find that very telling, and feel the need to point something out here. This is a war that occurred 70 years ago. Yet some folks will blatantly state what "was" and what "wasn't" as though they and Mr. Peabody just stepped out of the way-back machine from a thorough investigation of the period. The people that know for sure have already passed on. Everyone else is just bluffing. Now does that mean I'm saying it's a free-for-all, anything goes? Absolutely not. What I'm saying is it's all relative. If you're doing the invasion of Poland, then yeah, everyone should have the proper issued equipment. Later in the war? Well I'm sure some of our war veterans on here can tell us about how the supply chain can always get you what you need, when you need it. A good rule of thumb here is possibility vs. feasibility vs. probability. While most anything is a possibility, if they are not feasible then they are not probable. For example; While it's possible for a company tailor to re-make everyone's uniform in dot camo, there are feasibility issues. Would he have the time to do so, and where would he source that much fabric? Even if he did, would everyone wear such a non-standard uniform? With such feasibility concerns, the idea then has a probability of zero. Now could said company tailor come across a small bolt of fabric and make, say a smock and a couple of hats? I say absolutely that's not only feasible, but probable as well. So out of six or seven guys, if there's two or three "custom" pieces amongst them I say that works fine. Beyond that pushes feasibility without increasing personnel. The same logic can be applied to weapons as well. Can an entire squad be armed with MP40's? Possible and feasible,(they actually did at least once) but not probable. Like I said, it's all relative. Let us remember we are all students of this conflict, not masters.
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Post by Fusilier on Feb 11, 2011 22:14:50 GMT -5
my $.02 i was in germany for 12 years and was married to a german who had a grandfather i had many long talks with who fought in russia. on the last 3 years i was in mainz and helped a local antik dealer on the weekends. the stuff we would find in the old trunks or hidden in the attick would blow your mind. MG42s, MP40s, a schreck, PZ fausts, 20mm ammo one time. well any way i at one time had my hands on SS dot hats, field glass covers, map bags, etc... i still have a splinter ruck and other items. as my one time grand father in law told me the going rate for a hat to be made was a bottle of what ever they could find in there area. in his unit there was a field tailer who kept everything sewn, on his "off" time he made what ever you wanted. many of the items you say they never had i have in my hands, why i dont have them now? the hat sold for over 2500 euros. i was able to bring 2 x 40ft containers full of WWII gear back, so i think i did pretty well. Yes, very interesting, thank you very much for posting that. ****SMALL RANT WARNING**** Did everyone notice how this post was like a nuke in this topic? It absolutely DIED after that. I find that very telling, and feel the need to point something out here. This is a war that occurred 70 years ago. Yet some folks will blatantly state what "was" and what "wasn't" as though they and Mr. Peabody just stepped out of the way-back machine from a thorough investigation of the period. The people that know for sure have already passed on. Everyone else is just bluffing. Now does that mean I'm saying it's a free-for-all, anything goes? Absolutely not. What I'm saying is it's all relative. If you're doing the invasion of Poland, then yeah, everyone should have the proper issued equipment. Later in the war? Well I'm sure some of our war veterans on here can tell us about how the supply chain can always get you what you need, when you need it. A good rule of thumb here is possibility vs. feasibility vs. probability. While most anything is a possibility, if they are not feasible then they are not probable. For example; While it's possible for a company tailor to re-make everyone's uniform in dot camo, there are feasibility issues. Would he have the time to do so, and where would he source that much fabric? Even if he did, would everyone wear such a non-standard uniform? With such feasibility concerns, the idea then has a probability of zero. Now could said company tailor come across a small bolt of fabric and make, say a smock and a couple of hats? I say absolutely that's not only feasible, but probable as well. So out of six or seven guys, if there's two or three "custom" pieces amongst them I say that works fine. Beyond that pushes feasibility without increasing personnel. The same logic can be applied to weapons as well. Can an entire squad be armed with MP40's? Possible and feasible,(they actually did at least once) but not probable. Like I said, it's all relative. Let us remember we are all students of this conflict, not masters. >> OK,YES,they made some funky stuff during the War. Rucksacks out of zeltbahns,and zip up jackets out of smocks.We have photographic and written proof of those things. Hell,the Germans even tried making camouflage WOOL uniforms! They COULD have had a lot of things! But DID THEY?? Isn't that the whole point of RESEARCH,to find out if they did or didn't wear,or use certain items?? As for the weapons,sure we have way too many full auto weapons,but thats what we have,we have to make due. My point was,there are vendors out there selling some really funky,and downright wrong stuff to unsuspecting reenactors/airsofters. Common sense tells most of us to stay away from such garbage. I've also heard the age old reenactor argument of "if they had it,they would've used it!". I'm just trying to stay away from that on here,and steer people away from the garbage.
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