|
Post by luftwelle93 on Feb 27, 2015 19:58:49 GMT -5
Lol sorry about me keep aging my photos.It hides the fact I'm wearing DDR straps :DI will have proper ones soon.Anyway here's one with me in zelt.
|
|
|
Post by jared21 on Mar 21, 2015 22:57:01 GMT -5
|
|
Relish
Private
PICMDEEP
Posts: 261
|
Post by Relish on Mar 25, 2015 0:37:17 GMT -5
Relevant photo of my impression. From the Ft. Custer RETO event last weekend, I was there with 2. Panzerdivision. Needs non-Yugo bayonet, and ideally lowboots (I already have gamaschen).
|
|
|
Post by insterburger on Mar 25, 2015 5:53:13 GMT -5
I don't believe this impression belongs in the "I'm Working On It" thread at all, it's excellent.
As you probably know, the canteen was most typically worn on the breadbag, but as you also probably know it can be a PITA to get to there. Do you have it hanging from a belt loop? Certainly a plausible and not unheard of configuration for field gear.
My only other crit would be that the EK2 and EK1 comes off as a bit much for a typical Soldat. The EK1 was a fairly significant award which was given sparingly to enlisted personnel, and when it was often came along with a promotion and was very seldom seen below NCO ranks. Again, not 100% impossible to have a private sporting one, but highly improbable. If that is an award you earned within a re-enacting unit I understand, but personally would still avoid wearing it if it were me. In our unit, we do give out awards, but we only allow them to be worn at assemblies unless explicit permission is given to have them in the field. Generally less is more when it comes to awards, and apart from not looking terribly authentic to have lots of low ranking troops with ribbons and such, they also make good targets for the enemy and tend to make you easier to spot.
All in all an excellent impression, keep up the good work!
|
|
2nd Bat
Master sergeant
Posts: 11,813
|
Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 25, 2015 12:02:37 GMT -5
I read that there was a sort of mustard colored or greyish brown, collared shirt that was worn under the tunic and by regulation was supposed to slightly show above the tunic collar. The shirt was quite similar to the US mustard colored wool shirt. Is that in fact true? Obviously NOT especially critical. The impressions look great incidently. There is something so iconic about the German uniform which of course the US Army fell in love with as our Dress Uniform quickly emulated it after the war. A pitty in my opinion as I really liked our "pink and tans"
|
|
|
Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Mar 25, 2015 14:57:15 GMT -5
^not true. No mustard brown shirt. Only brownish shier would be the early ss-vt shirts, but those were seldom seen past 1942.
|
|
|
Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Mar 25, 2015 14:59:37 GMT -5
Updated my Heer uniform and gear based of of some of the help I received off of here and some better research. Keep the constructive criticism coming, let me know what looks right and what doesn't. The pistol holster usually isn't worn but the field I was at required a sidearm. Nice! Only criticism, get a better repro helmet. That one has a pretty wonky shape to it.
|
|
2nd Bat
Master sergeant
Posts: 11,813
|
Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 25, 2015 16:45:07 GMT -5
So the inner shirt was grey from 42 on? Also as I understand it the tunic collar was supposed to be exposed (as in your picture LZZAH) when wearing the camo smock? Or was that just an SS thing? I am assuming the inner shirt was free of emblems?
|
|
Relish
Private
PICMDEEP
Posts: 261
|
Post by Relish on Mar 25, 2015 20:17:32 GMT -5
You cant tell from my pic, but I pulled my tunic collar up through my zeltbahn. All the Heer guys at Ft Custer last weekend in smocks had their collars showing. The inner service shirt is insignia free, its essentially a very long button pullover button up shirt. Can be had with or without pockets. And, for any airsofters that don't have em, I can tell you it makes EONS of difference when wearing a wool tunic. Like, night and day better to have the service shirt than to not have it.
Edited to add: my service shirt is so comfy I use it as pajamas from time to time.
|
|
|
Post by princeofpinoys on Apr 4, 2015 23:58:37 GMT -5
Changed From Heer to SS due to creating a team with friends
Uniform: Repo M35 (German Oak Cover) German Oak Field Cap M42 HBT Tunic (You can see where the Heer insignia used to be) (Rank is due to team) Grey Dress/Work Shirt Dot 44 Trousers East German Jack Boots
Gear: Tropical Y straps Belt with SS buckle G41 Pouch (For VSR10 Mags) K98 Pouch Bread Bag (unseen) Gas Mask Canister Bayonet Frog (unseen carries rubber training knife) Map Case ...and Binoculars for field use
|
|
|
Post by luftwelle93 on Apr 6, 2015 9:30:09 GMT -5
Excellent Princeofpinoys!Everything looks top-notch and accurate enough.Your collection is pretty good so far
|
|
|
Post by princeofpinoys on Apr 7, 2015 20:40:08 GMT -5
Thank You!
|
|
|
Post by aldrich on Apr 7, 2015 21:39:09 GMT -5
Nice! Your tunic has a nice worn look to it. Try adjusting your belt up higher so it sits directly between the upper and lower pockets. That's how they did it and it will help things fit a little more snugly.
|
|
|
Post by princeofpinoys on Apr 8, 2015 19:52:08 GMT -5
Thanks! I wore my tunic everyday when it was heer, there was no breast eagle on it tho, but now since its full SS cant wear it anymore :C. and I just adjusted the belt yesterday, had to punch new holes in it to fit me but now it stays where it is suppose to.
|
|
|
Post by brzeczyszczykiewicz on Apr 19, 2015 10:19:51 GMT -5
Changed From Heer to SS due to creating a team with friends Uniform: Repo M35 (German Oak Cover) German Oak Field Cap M42 HBT Tunic (You can see where the Heer insignia used to be) (Rank is due to team) Grey Dress/Work Shirt Dot 44 Trousers East German Jack Boots Gear: Tropical Y straps Belt with SS buckle G41 Pouch (For VSR10 Mags) K98 Pouch Bread Bag (unseen) Gas Mask Canister Bayonet Frog (unseen carries rubber training knife) Map Case ...and Binoculars for field use I think I can just barely see your 'Luftwaffe' blue G41 pouch! Nice impression, work well done!
|
|
|
Post by brzeczyszczykiewicz on Apr 19, 2015 11:55:08 GMT -5
Hi guys! I'm new here and this is my 2nd post. I have recently started my 'Wehrmacht' impression. I hope you can help me out! https://instagram.com/p/1qduK5j4Jq What I have: M36 tunic 2 MP40 pouches East German Y-Straps (Getting leather repros soon) M48 Yugo ammo pouch (Put my pistol mag there) Fork, Spoon, Knife set East German Breadbag Airsoft pistol Black EM belt Waffen SS belt buckle (I'll get a Wehrmacht one shortly) and last but not least; M43 cap. What I will get: Insignia (Already in the mail) Leather Y-Straps Wehrmacht belt buckle M40 pants Low boots (And gaiters) Mp40 Airsoft gun And maybe an original breadbag. Thanks! F.B
|
|
|
Post by insterburger on Apr 19, 2015 13:15:13 GMT -5
Welcome... my fellow polack! Won't even try that name. This is a great start. A couple of points to make it even better:
-- Glad you're already making upgrades i.e. better y-straps and buckle, those will go along way.
-- Are those black MP 40 pouches? If so, I don't believe they're correct, and will need upgrading.
-- I get why you want an ammo pouch for your pistol, but I'd ace the Yugo pouch. It is a very obviously wrong item and draws attention to itself. Extra mags can always go in pockets--Your tunic does have four of them!
-- For the short term the East German bread bag should be fine, but probably in the long term you'll want to upgrade that. It's worth noting that breadbags were stone grey before the war, so it's not far fetched that some of those might come out of stocks further down the line, but a repro in the greenish or khaki colors will draw less attention.
Great start! Where are you located? Hopefully you can get out into the field soon!
|
|
|
Post by brzeczyszczykiewicz on Apr 19, 2015 13:57:08 GMT -5
Of course! You're input is very much appreciated!
I will surely enough get some 'new' leather Y-Straps, I'll look into my pouches but they look dark 'green' in person. Perhaps the lightning. You're correct, I'm looking into a breadbag as well.
For now: these items will do, but first I have to get some insignia for my M36.
EDIT: And yeah, I will ditch the Yugo m48 pouch. Maybe sell it to a Soviet or Yugo collector. Maybe £2 plus £3 shipping? Oh, and I live in Manchester.
|
|
|
Post by insterburger on Apr 19, 2015 14:46:05 GMT -5
I will say this, and I think I speak for most for airsofters (probably not shared by BF re-enactors):
We would MUCH rather have you in the field in incomplete or incorrect kit than not at all. Come with what you have, in many games folks can help you outinsome they can't, but I have yet to see a game where someone was "dissed" or given a hard time over their impression. Constructive criticism is at times offered, put it has ALWAYS been constructive and positive, at least in my experience.
BTW, the insignia will go a long way, but I do in fact have some pics of WH soldiers with only some insignia, or none at all (even on their wools). So get the stuff, but don't let not having it yet keep you from playing.
|
|
|
Post by brzeczyszczykiewicz on Apr 19, 2015 14:58:31 GMT -5
Yes. I am just potraying a late-war simple infantry soldat. I have a simple question: what gear should I get? A mess kit is cheap enough for me but a canteen water bottle? Hell no. Any more gear? Like a GM container? I also have a Black m35 helmet, however the rivets are misplaced and the colour is wrong, so I'll get an original for X-MAS.
|
|
|
Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Apr 19, 2015 15:28:49 GMT -5
if its late war, ditch the m36 tunic for an m43. Also, you have an ss buckle, replace that with a Heer one.
|
|
|
Post by brzeczyszczykiewicz on Apr 19, 2015 15:34:19 GMT -5
if its late war, ditch the m36 tunic for an m43. Also, you have an ss buckle, replace that with a Heer one. I am more than sure that German soldiers wore M36 tunics as well. They were struggling to produce the M40s and M43s, so they just used the tunics that they had in storage. And I have already stated that I'm getting a Heer belt buckle. Thanks for your input, though. F.B
|
|
|
Post by aldrich on Apr 19, 2015 17:12:17 GMT -5
Looks good so far! If you are going the low boots and gaiters route, I would get the m43 pants over m40's. Either is fine as far as authenticity goes, but the m43 pants will work better with the gaiters and not un-tuck themselves as much. That is my experience at least.
|
|
|
Post by insterburger on Apr 19, 2015 17:26:11 GMT -5
I agree with Aldrich, the M43's will work better with the Gamaschen. As for the M36 vs. M41 or M43 tunic, I would say if you hadn't got one already, then the later models would be the way to go, but as you say, the M36's were in common use up until the end of the war. I would, however, be sure to use the early war style Litzen. Most (though not all) tunics had factory-sewn insignia, and while there certainly were bottle-green collars with late war "generic" collar tabs, the earlier style with dedicated Waffenfarbe will be WAY more typical.
Yes, mess kits are cheap especially post-war ones), but for goodness sake also invest in a canteen. Some deals can be had if you are patient and look for them, or if you're good with sewing leather you could get a Swedish canteen and a repro cup and add the straps yourself, though you're probably better off just buying one. Not only are both mess kits and canteens essential elements of German field gear that Soldaten are rarely seen without, but that canteen is also an eminently practical way to keep yourself hydrated in the field, while slaking your thirst in a period-correct way.
|
|
|
Post by brzeczyszczykiewicz on Apr 20, 2015 13:57:17 GMT -5
I'm getting y-straps first. My belt is way too big, so yeah. I am getting a canteen and mess tin in a week's time. Good luck everyone!
|
|
Relish
Private
PICMDEEP
Posts: 261
|
Post by Relish on Apr 20, 2015 19:55:03 GMT -5
I was literally about to say the same thing Aldrich and insterburger said till I saw their post. You'll definitely have an easier time with M43 Keilhosen if you're doing lowboots and gamaschen. They also mentioned the M36 tunic, but I always thought the bottle green collars and boards looked cooler anyway.
|
|
|
Post by brzeczyszczykiewicz on Apr 21, 2015 11:52:41 GMT -5
Here: ladies and gents, is my an update on my M36 tunic which I hand-sew. Please do enjoy! (P.S. And yes! I know that my belt buckle is SS!)
|
|
|
Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Apr 21, 2015 21:25:06 GMT -5
small criticism: replace the eagle. Eagles on wool like that never existed, they should be BeVo with the dark green backing for an m36.
|
|
|
Post by ssgjoe on Apr 24, 2015 11:50:47 GMT -5
Yep. It's looking better, however as LSSAH said, replace the eagle. Repros are cheap enough you can do so. And the M36 will suit for now, but someone stated they were common late war. They were not common late war, they just weren't unheard of. Later models are much much more common. But this tunic will work for now, it's not incorrect at all
|
|
|
Post by brzeczyszczykiewicz on May 16, 2015 16:28:34 GMT -5
Hi guys! I am thinking of getting this helmet and removing the post-war paint. The liner looks genuine and the seller just sent me the markings, please do share your opinions.
|
|