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Post by volkssturm on Jan 10, 2023 12:59:11 GMT -5
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Post by 2ndbat2 on Jan 17, 2023 22:13:00 GMT -5
By the time you buy enough fabric for a smock and get someone to cut out and sew your pattern you're over what you can buy a Chinese reproduction For. Perhaps for visual "at a glance" maybe make some pseudo zelts? I find zelts and smock do a great job of hiding my hokey German tunics.
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Post by hardslack on Feb 2, 2023 14:07:36 GMT -5
Didnt a forum member (dracul maybe? He had a lot of loaner/costume gear.) use this the make some smock type things?
Maybe not. I also remember someone using spoonflour to print volkssturm armbands and other insignia, which I always thought was pretty cool.
I had an idea in this vein, which I know will be wildly offensive to some. But we have some great examples of "costume" level gear for bulking up games. The other day I noticed some spray-paint at the home depot, specifically for fabric. And sometimes people use stencils for spraypainting camo patterns. So what about getting cheap available fabric, approximately the right base color, with spraypaint and approximated stencils, making a smock or zelt or whatever, you could have a splinter smock that passes a 50' at a glance rule...
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Post by volkssturm on Feb 10, 2023 12:49:52 GMT -5
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 11, 2023 12:06:12 GMT -5
That pattern somehow looks better. I think these might work well for my purposes but rather than smocks which require pattern cutting and sewing. Not my thing and NOT something I want to ask my wife to make a half dozen of! I would make pseudo zelts. I can do seams and add grommets. Several of them together with simple poles can create a wide variety of German tents as well as make shift ponchos. Spray heavily with water repellant and that actually will be semi functional.
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Post by volkssturm on Feb 11, 2023 17:37:22 GMT -5
I might have to hunt around for a zelt pattern.
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Post by volkssturm on Feb 11, 2023 17:37:42 GMT -5
I might have to hunt around for a zelt pattern.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 11, 2023 21:02:20 GMT -5
Let me know if you find one. (A zelt pattern) If not perhaps if you can find the dimensions? These cloth bolt seem to be 42" wide which is good. There were lots of cool camo patterns. I didn't find a Mitchell pattern but that would be cool. Nam era camo helmet covers have gotten crazy expensive. Back in the day I had dozens upon dozens of them. Not sure where they ended up?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 11, 2023 21:09:39 GMT -5
Never mind I found a great link: www.mp44.nl/equipment/zelt_new.htmapparently 250 x 200 x 200 cm. Lots of buttons a few grommets and a slit hole centered and covered for use as a poncho. Pretty handy piece of equipment. The pattern you showed looks quite good actually. Drac back in the day bought some of the material and made helmet covers for the costume plastic stahlheims which ended up looking quite good actually.
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Post by volkssturm on Feb 12, 2023 13:20:46 GMT -5
That's quite webpage. Looks like the material was printed on both sides.
Doing some rough calculations on how much fabric would be needed. At $19 a yard each zelt would be pushing $100 in material. Maybe fabric paint and some cheap dropcloths and stencils would be feasible? And the $19 fabric is a 4 oz, apparel material. A bit light for a zelt.
Had to go look up a calculator for finding the area of a triangle. Been a long time since the fifth grade. It would take between 4 and 5 yards of material. Those things are bigger than they look.
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Post by hardslack on Feb 15, 2023 11:52:25 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the stencils would be REALLY tedious. I mean, time is the price for cheap... it is what it is. But making the stencils would be rough, and then applying would also be rough.
And in the end you'd end up with something that really doesn't look THAT close to splinter. I suspect it would be fool many airsofters; (sometimes I get compliments on a great WW2 loadout when using chicom webgear...). And even those like myself who have cursory interest and knowledge of WW2.
That being said there are many options for cheap fabric; dropcloths, harbor freight has tarps in a OD greenish shade, regular canvas or other fabric from the sewing store, and thrift store curtains.
And from a quick glance at splinter camo images, looks like they should be somewhat angular, so painters tape could be used to make most of the shape.
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Post by volkssturm on Feb 15, 2023 15:08:30 GMT -5
I went ahead and bought a couple yards. Once I figure out what I'm doing I'll fire up the old sewing machine. Probably try making a smock, because I'm an old retired guy with a lot of time.
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Post by volkssturm on Feb 17, 2023 16:24:05 GMT -5
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 17, 2023 19:33:42 GMT -5
Wow. That's a bargain! I bought about a half dozen smocks in splinter pattern way back when for I think $60.00 shipped. Together with the costume helmets they looked pretty good. In addition I had some pea dot and autumn colors that I found later were exclusively SS. In addition I had some splinter patterned light plastic ponchos that I have included in my costume department. They looked decent under web gear but have not been durable as loaners.
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Post by volkssturm on Apr 6, 2023 18:56:42 GMT -5
Started trying to turn this stuff into a smock, going by pictures. It's pretty light stuff. Not sure how durable it would be. Probably good for helmet covers, though.
So, I messed around a little on this project then started wasting time on other things. This fabric is like 4 oz. The old OG 107 fatigues of the '60's was an 8.5 oz cotton, so I think it's really not suitable for a smock. Maybe helmet covers or with backing a field cap.
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