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Post by worldwardrew on May 16, 2006 19:40:00 GMT -5
I dropped my Tanaka K98 on its butt, now when I try to fire it it just hisses most of the time and won't shoot. Ok I have determined it isn't the bolt or the clip, I used my friends bolt and clip and it didn't solve the problem. So it must be somewhere in the gun it's self. Dose anyone know what to do? I have had it less than a week and it is already broke is there anyone I can send it to to get fixed?
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Post by Gordak on May 16, 2006 20:48:42 GMT -5
sounds like a cheap over size bb is stuck in the breech. use excell .25s or better -Gordak
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Post by worldwardrew on May 16, 2006 23:21:14 GMT -5
no it isn't that it has been fireing fine for about 1000 rounds
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 16, 2006 23:53:23 GMT -5
Have you checked the barrel and breech? run a rod down the barrel? Sounds like a simple jammed BB.
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Post by worldwardrew on May 16, 2006 23:59:16 GMT -5
ofcourse I have checked the barrel, and it is clear. I know it dosen't make sense but I think maybe the breech got outta wack or something and won't take all the gas when I pull the trigger.
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Post by sabrepilot9000 on May 17, 2006 0:51:36 GMT -5
When you pull the bolt off the gun what does it look like at the very rear? (should be angled "post" sticking up and a silver-like peice of thin metal in front of that) Also, is the magazine catching correctly and what does the lever on the back of it look like?
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Post by Gordak on May 17, 2006 9:01:08 GMT -5
If the barrel is clear, and all the mags are the same, look at your firing pin, it should fly out about 4mm when your shoot the gun, (without the magazine inside) then it should fly back on its own power to be flush with the mag well. Also, if the gun is a G version, make sure there is no debris in the nozzle. (know you said u changed the bolts) They are really good guns, im surpized by your problem, its not a marushin right? still, Everything you said sounded like a bb jammed in the barrel. -GOrdak
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Post by Gordak on May 17, 2006 9:05:38 GMT -5
oh yeah... if you were using green gas, you may have skrewed up the firing pin, or the hammer.
-Gordak
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Post by worldwardrew on May 17, 2006 15:48:34 GMT -5
It is a Tanaka, actually I was using green gas. and the fireing pin dose what it is supose to. So what do I need to do to fix it?
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Post by sabrepilot9000 on May 17, 2006 16:02:36 GMT -5
Check that little post right behind the firing pin. It's weird cause if it isnt the bolt, or the magazine, and it looks like the firing pin is doin what its supposed to then it might be the post or something in your tirgger block is out of alignment maybe. Take this with a grain of salt though as I've never had a problem like this with my 98 so I cant be entirely sure of what it could be.
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Post by worldwardrew on May 18, 2006 22:50:01 GMT -5
Ok, today I cleaned the k98 and it dose shoot but not like it used to, the bbs are no where near as accurate or consistent in the way they fly. tommorow my .43s should get in maybe that will fix my problem. It is just weird that it would all the sudden stop fireing.
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Post by worldwardrew on May 20, 2006 0:28:49 GMT -5
Well, my k98 is still shooting crappy, this is really annoying considering I have had the gun less than a week and it is already messed up! I take real good care of my guns and I accidentaly drop the gun on its butt and now it sucks! I spent all that money on a gun that is now ineffective!
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Post by 9mmsleepingpill on May 20, 2006 10:09:58 GMT -5
worldwardrew...... have you had the chance to strip the gun down ?? my k98 was firing crap for ages until i discovered that one of my parts inside the gun was broke.......... i slightly over tightened the gun when rebuilding it after a good strip down and clean up, im just wondering if its the same part that went on mine this might be the the part thets broke -------->>>> www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper.php?itm=TW-PT-98KNO65_cat_Tanaka%20Parts&PHPSESSID=082e07e2ea17bb37d761a1d16750c190P.S. thats the hop unit, it dont take long to swap it over if you strip it let us know if thats your problem have fun
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Post by mikkel on May 20, 2006 17:00:41 GMT -5
The entire hop-assembly and inner barrel may have come loose. It happened to mine. I first discovered it after my custom nozzle had cut the hop-rubber in half, and it had moved down the barrel with some bbs. The result was that i had to take the entire rifle apart and use a metal rod to clear the barrel. Now i just need to cut a new hop-rubber from some old bicycle tire. It's such a nice rifle, you can fix and repair it with so many wierd items
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Post by worldwardrew on May 23, 2006 23:27:20 GMT -5
Well I took it apart and cleaned every inch of it and oiled it up. Now it seems to shoot just like it did when I got it! I guess the hammer wasn't lubbed enough er somthing, thanks for all the help guys I really appreciate it. If it decides to mess up again I know where to come. Thanks!
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Post by 2ndranger on Sept 7, 2006 21:32:43 GMT -5
Hey I heard somewhere that the tanaka Kar98k g version mag can go through 3 refills (of bbs) without needing to be filled of gas each empty mag. Mine doesnt have such a blessing. I shoot ten rounds then i lose FPS am i doing something wrong?
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Post by Gordak on Sept 7, 2006 21:34:21 GMT -5
what kind of gas? The gun is not made for green, that could explain, or you just not filling it up enough.
-Gordak
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Post by schmitty on Sept 8, 2006 8:54:39 GMT -5
I purchased a Tanaka Kar 98k about a month ago. Took it to a game last weekend and found that the BB's curved up even with the hop-up all the way off. Took it apart and found part #65 (the hop up chamber) shattered in pieces. I never dropped it or abused it in anyway. Since I can't find that part in stock anywhere I super glued it back together and so far seems to be working OK, but haven't been able to give it any long range tests yet. Not to impressed with Tanakas engineering although overall it is a very nicely made piece.
Schmitty
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Post by 2ndranger on Sept 8, 2006 17:39:19 GMT -5
Yeah I used the green gas but I dont know where I can buy Hfc134a gas? And it shoots fine with the green gas. Its just that its too hard to refill the gas after each mag.
Schutze
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Post by Nimlas on Sept 8, 2006 19:09:30 GMT -5
You can buy it at any good airsoft store and online retailers. Or you could make Gordaks awesome adapter and buy the cans for 2.50 at wally world.
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Post by 2ndranger on Sept 9, 2006 12:29:03 GMT -5
Does anyone know the link for the adapter?
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Post by Nimlas on Sept 9, 2006 15:56:00 GMT -5
It's on the WWIIAA main page.
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Post by 2ndranger on Oct 8, 2006 14:57:29 GMT -5
My part 65 broke too, does anyone know where I can get it that has it in stock? Also my barrel (the black one) is loose, in fact I can pull it out and if I lay it down the aimer is off aim is there a way to tighten it? Thanks.
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Post by Gordak on Oct 8, 2006 17:58:08 GMT -5
my kar 98s have been so dependible I have NEVER had to take them appart!!! so im sorry Im no help here.
-Gordak
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Post by Nimlas on Oct 8, 2006 18:10:08 GMT -5
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Post by 2ndranger on Oct 8, 2006 19:06:48 GMT -5
Thank you very much.
Noob Schutze
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Post by 2ndranger on Oct 10, 2006 22:00:05 GMT -5
Is the replacement par 65 for tanaka kar98 stronger than its original counterpart? or is it of equal strength as in will it break again?
Schutze
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Post by 9mmsleepingpill on Oct 11, 2006 6:08:33 GMT -5
Guys !!
IF you have to strip down your gun OR replace part 65....................... DONT over tighten it.
This is where the problem lies.
Schutze.............. it the same part, nothing better or worce
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Post by schmitty on Oct 11, 2006 10:20:01 GMT -5
My part 65 was broken without ever tightening, dropping, rough handleing or even looking at it wrong.
Last weekend we (Myself and some of the Battlesim boys) had a target range test using my K98 and Hellmutts and a few other AEG's and pistols etc. We where shooting at cans about 70-80 feet away. The K98's where more accurate with the hop ups all the way off with hop up on they where both very inconsistant, but the AEG's where always far more accurate no matter what. A stock TM uzi at only 240 fps with .20 ammo was more accurate than the 400 fps k98's with .28 BB's. conclusion: gas blows!
Schmitty
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 11, 2006 11:43:23 GMT -5
I have fired two different Kar 98 s from tanaka and was extremely impressed with both. With that said, I am and continue to be a fan of Auto Electric Guns for their consistency, durability, predictability and skirmishability. Gas is a pain. When they shoot great they shoot great. They remind me of my Fiat / Lancia and Alpha ownership of my youth. Love/ hate relationship all the way.
There's too much going on at an action pursuit game to have to deal with a persnickety gun. When I get a fleeting moment at a clear shot, I want to bring the gun up and shoot with a high level of confidence that it's going to fire and a very decent idea where the BB is going to end up. AEGs give me that and gas guns don't.
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