29ththerealpimps
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Post by 29ththerealpimps on Apr 20, 2007 22:14:16 GMT -5
Do the conversion kits come with the lower stocks? If not how do you get it the right color?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 20, 2007 23:31:00 GMT -5
I no longer sell the kits. When I did they included stains and instructions so you could match your stock to the ones that came in the kit. People managed it quite nicely. I only sell finished guns now and I match them up according to the shade (Light medium and dark walnut that you request). Wow I guess it's good that I cleared this up.
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Post by 29ththerealpimps on Apr 21, 2007 14:12:37 GMT -5
Dangit! Now I don't have enough money. Maybe in a little while I can buy one. I have $540 to spend. And I have to buy a new m41 (but capt. zak wont answer my PMs).
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 29, 2007 0:07:44 GMT -5
I got two more finished guns completed and shipped and have three more in the pipeline, two of which are well on the way to being done. I should be able to ship them by the end of this week and get the other out by mid week the following week. Unless something else sells, that'll get me all caught up. This means funds that arrive before the end of April should result in a rifle shipped by Mid May. Unless I get another delay on parts. I just finished a sniper variant M1C with the cone muzzle, leather cheek pad and eventually a scope. The only thing it's waiting on is a suitable looking scope. I picked up some of the actual eye cups and glare shades. It won't look perfect of course but is going to look pretty badass. The M1C was produced before ht wears end but to my knowledge was never deployed at least not in the ETO. They saw lots of action in Korea and Vietnam.
A real scope with actual authentic scope mount would be beyond resonable as the scope (M84) and mount are bringing $600.00 plus on Ebay. As it is I had to pay 100.00 for the muzzle cone. I've seen them bring as much as $185.00! The leather cheek pad was just $25.00.
The base gun for this rifle is a seriously upgraded Marui base rifle with everything upgraded including the barrel. It chronos at just over 440 FPS and shoots ribbon straight. Once I figure out the scope arrangement I'll get some pictures. I doubt I will pursue selling these but I may use it as a press release item if I ever build up and inventory of regular AEG Garands and feel I need to market them.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 30, 2007 14:32:31 GMT -5
There has been some question about which shade represents which description In this side photo the Dark Walnut is on the right, The blonde stock is in the middle and the mid brown is on the left. Each shade has some variation as each gun is uniquely finished by me but as a general guide you can indicate what your preference is. The Dark Walnut is most representative of a WW2 GI rifle but the mid shade would also be authentic though somewhat less common. They all represent the same amount of effort on my part. If you like a greater sense of uniformity the Dark Walnut usually comes closest although there is always variation of shade on the same replica (just as there is on real Garands) I match them as closely as my availability of parts will allow. Remember the same stain on two pieces of wood will show some variation. Same grouping from a different angle. In this grouping the farthest rifle in the sink is Dark Walnut and the others are variations of the mid brown. Note how much variation there is even on the same rifle. This is inevitable and authentic. One receiver group you'll note is lighter. This is the grey parkerization effect of a field cleaned and used rifle. The Solid Flat black is more indicative of a newer rifle. You can order your rifle in the flat black, grey parkerization throughout or a mixture of metal finishes which again doesn't look as uniform but is actually the most authentic for a field GI rifle.
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Post by killbucket on Apr 30, 2007 16:23:17 GMT -5
Nice sink full of babies. Very convincing work. Yes, very nice. This is the difference between "conversion" and "craft".
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Post by drew on May 14, 2007 9:15:48 GMT -5
i pm'd you but i thought id ask here aswell.
are you still making these?
id love a M1 but the gas ones are out of the question due to my site not allowing 8mm Gas guns.
im saving for a M1 if they are still available, i just need info on time from payment to delivery in the uk
cheers
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 14, 2007 16:18:18 GMT -5
I responded to your PM a minute ago. Thanks for your interest. I'm still building them and have sent about a dozen to the UK (Another one this morning!) Current orders recieved take about 10 days to two weeks to completion. (I'm just about caught up on orders right now) That could of course change as I complete and ship in sequence with when funds arrive. Once shipped the guns seem to take 10 days to 2 weeks getting to the UK and clearing Customs. Sometimes much quicker but usually not. I think its customs as the other European countries are almost always much quicker.
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on May 14, 2007 17:43:23 GMT -5
2nd bat, I got some more equiptment to add to my impression so I'll try to post some pics of my m1 (and the hansome fellow who owns it) sometime in the next few days.
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 16, 2007 17:04:22 GMT -5
That'd be great! I'd love to see them so I don't have to picture you as a baby in an M1 Helmet!
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Post by click on May 17, 2007 1:20:34 GMT -5
Lol. Did Russians have choppas in WW2 jk. But the baby IS wearing ameoba camo.
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 17, 2007 12:33:38 GMT -5
Here's a real nice PM from Steve in the UK:
Hi John, "Just a few pictures of me and the garand, hope you like them. My conversion continues to be my favourite airsoft weapon & a source of considerable interest every time it is skirmished. Hopefully every one who has asked about it has now ordered a complete rifle from you!!"
Thanks Shellshockt You should post your pictures as your kit and rifle look great and the pictures were extremely well done.
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Post by petee99d on May 18, 2007 12:06:56 GMT -5
I'm devastated that I can't buy a conversion in kit form any more! Am currently trying to source the parts individually but it's a major pain in the arse! Unfortunately, the wife won't let me fork out for the full Garand. Your work is first class 2nd Bat, I say this having seen one of your Garands in the flesh.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 1, 2007 10:08:47 GMT -5
I've got another batch set to go out today and another grouping that will go out early next week. Thanks folks for the continued support and interest.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 5, 2007 13:43:55 GMT -5
Here's a nice PM from the UK:
2nd Bat, "Long time no speak. Just shooting you a PM to let you know how the Garand's doing. It's become my trusty first choice, and has got me out of some sticky situations, one involving some boggy fields, a Bedford truck on my tail and about 14 people in the Bedford. I got a sling for it, which I found extremely useful. At every site i've been to, i've had people ask where I could get it. I told them to visit this site, and hooahairsoft@gmail.com Hopefully some people have at leas taken an interest in them. Once again, thanks for being helpful regarding getting the Garand over here, and thanks for being the bloke with the idea to make quality AEG Garands. Oh, and by the way, do you have any more ideas in the pipeline? Cheers - Dave"
Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. I am building Springfields for limited sale $550.00 and up. I have a prototype BAR but need to figure out how to build it so it can be produced with a $700.00 price point while still reasonably authentic. I'm a ways from getting there. (The Garand development took well over a year and several initial iterations) Incidently the gun now includes an OD WW2 web sling or optional Leather sling for $28.00 more.
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Post by theriseandfall on Jun 5, 2007 14:06:14 GMT -5
oh man i gotta get in on one of those springfields good to hear the garands are still ticking 2nd bat
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 5, 2007 18:44:21 GMT -5
Another surge of orders so if you want to get one this summer hurry before I get back logged again. I'm currently about two weeks out but that could quickly change to four and then six weeks!
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 11, 2007 20:15:50 GMT -5
The UK has traditionally been my main overseas market and I have sold many many conversions into Merry Ol England but lately there seems to be a race between France and Finland for second place in Garand orders with 5 sales a piece now into those two countries.
Obviously WW2 airsoft are burgeoning enterprises in both those countries. I am of course delighted to support you both.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jul 4, 2007 0:15:18 GMT -5
To the six people I currently have sold orders for I apologize that I am a bit behind. I am having major headaches with minor parts that have traditionally been fairly available and affirdable but are suddenly hard to get and expensive (for what they are) I have sufficient numbers of the items located and poaid for but the folks I have bought them from for whatever reason haven't been setting the world on fire to get them to me. (Front sites and front sire screws and stacking swivels.) I am proceeding with production and even sent one gun out which was finished other then the stacking swivel. I will mail it to you as soon as it comes in (from Italy of all places!)
For the others be patient and thanks for your understanding. I have guns set to go to Mass, Texas, France (Almost done) Sweden and Finland (Another week away I suspect.) I also got in some AGM M-14s and two Marui M-14s that were supposed to be simulated wood and they were black or OD which I can work around as I have some left over take offs from my 30 Cal.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jul 5, 2007 10:09:19 GMT -5
There seems to be a dramatic run of consistent, additional questions about the Garand AEG conversion and at the risk of being terribly redundant (Read the thread guys it can't be that tough) I submit the following:
I still make the guns, but no I don't do the kits anymore. (The parts are simply too hard to accumulate to keep up with the volume) and the kits were nearly as much work anyway.
The price on the finished conversions is still $560.00 for the AGM model and $750.00 for the Marui model (Strictly a difference in costs of the two base guns) While certainly expensive this is about half what a typical custom produced gun will cost.
Both come with a shortened 12 round magazine and clear instructions on how to make more. You can use either Marui or Deepfire low cap mags. (The Deepfire are half as much and seem to be identical) The guns also come with a speed loader and barrel rod, OD web sling (WW2 Garand) and an owners manual that has care, maintenance and dissassembly instructions and is done up to look like a 1942 WAR DEPARTMENT Field Manual. They are shipped in the original box from the brand new base rifle I use. Shipping to the West coast is $18.00, Mid West is 20.00 and East Coast is $22.00. The box weighs 11 1/2 pounds. The gun is 8 1/2 pounds. Shipping to the UK is 56.00 and is terribly slow due to your customs which has thankfully allowed all 14 of the guns I've shipped there in with apparently no problems. (Just slow) The continent is $62.00 and Scandanavia and Eastern Europe is $64.00 Finland and France have now tied in sales with 7 guns sold a piece. Russia has bought two!
The customner has their choice of three different shades of wood and three different configurations of metal finish. Dark Walnut, Medium Brown, and Light Blonde wood. The Dark Walnut and to a lesser degree the Medium Brown are the most authentic for a WW2 impression. Likewise a solid Flat Black metal finish uniformly throughout would be the look of a brand new replacements rifle while a Medium Grey Parkerization or better still an aged, mixed, metal finish would be what you'd see on the rilfe of a field soldier. Unless asked not to, I typically "age" the weapon a little bit making each unique and as authentic as I can for a WW2 impression.
Options include an actual Garand Butt Plate ($18.00) Standard, I customize the M-14 Butt plate by removing the flap and finishing the inner plate so it looks virtually identical but some people prefer the real butt plate. The down side is that the real butt plate trap door is too small to accomodate the battery so you have to remove the entire butt plate when changing batteries. (Two screws)
The other extra cost option is a Leather sling which is a $28.00 Option. In addition you may want to order extra enblock clips to make additional shortened magazines. They are $1.00 each And in the US only, Dummy 30 Cal eight round clips that make a great prop when stuck on your web belt suspenders $10.00 each (Limited supply). Each has painted black tips with every third inert round painted orange (tracer) Adds a cool look to your impression. I have about a dozen of them right now. I got them on Ebay for between $8.00 and 16.00 after shipping.
My Garand parts keep getting harder and harder to buy and prices have been all over the map but I'm keeping my pricing as consistent as I can. Delivery from time of purchase is now 3 weeks from time of order, give or take a week.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Aug 6, 2007 11:52:02 GMT -5
Here is a PM from a new customer in France who decided on a highly customized Marui. I had the Guarder upgrade kit installed and it became a lazer. He has an AGM M-14 so he was familiar with that gun. He originally wanted to send it to me for the conversion but obviously with the shipping costs it didn't make sense.
His English is way better then my French and I think his comments are positive!
HELLO "hello I received the garand 3 days ago, it is really splendid! the agm version that I had were not to be to go up by you, the old summer less well done less strong! that if appears to be a truth to go up in series, it crac not, does not move! it draws really well right and well far to 0.28 G! very reactive as draws you really have to complete an excellent work above, impresionnant thank you still for the accesoire and this wonder which I hope for it will function a long time. the weather will be very strong impressions at the time of my exit of Sunday. which beautiful work on wood the color is really splendid as I wanted has it soon."
Mix
Merci Beaucoup! for the nice endorsement. It's fun sending these throughout the world and getting nice notes like above. France and Finland have recently been the destination for lots of my conversions along with the ever dependable UK. Recently I sold one which will end up in Norway! and there is one enroute to Sweden,Spain and another to Finland as we speak.
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Post by gunfreak on Aug 6, 2007 14:05:14 GMT -5
that's just cool, i'm trying to get some other Norwegians on board, but most who wanted a Garand have bought the marushin. so I home som of the sell them and buy a AEG instead. if you live in florida with 25C all year around the Marushin works fine, but as soon as it drops below that or it stars to rain or even a slight breeze and you won't get much more then 20 rounds out of a full tank of gas
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Post by collisi0n on Aug 9, 2007 1:15:54 GMT -5
Is there any way to convert a Marushin M1 into an AEG like you are? Or is the stock completely different?
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Aug 9, 2007 11:04:09 GMT -5
stocks completely different, firing systems are completely different, magazine's totally different, and there might not even be room to fit an m14 gearbox. You could mabye do it but using a $450 marushin garand and a $120 m14 combined with countless hours of work could just end up as a box of parts.
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Post by KRaddatz on Aug 9, 2007 11:44:51 GMT -5
you can get an AGM m14 for only $85
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Post by click on Aug 13, 2007 8:02:00 GMT -5
you can get an AGM m14 for only $85 Shipping.....
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Post by KRaddatz on Aug 13, 2007 12:58:51 GMT -5
yeah i looked it up afterwards, i take back my statement
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Post by valtteri on Aug 18, 2007 4:12:35 GMT -5
It is possible to melt a Marushin Garand and M14. It isn't that much different than using real steel parts - you'll use the handguard and everything that's in front of that. You won't be using the mag or receiver or any of those. You can take your chances with the stock if you like.
If Marushin resumes production on the Garands, you might be able to get the necessary parts as spares. I don't think how smart that is in the US, but abroad it might get just a bit cheaper.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Aug 21, 2007 14:47:28 GMT -5
I suspect though I might be wrong that buying the actual Garand parts neccessary for the conversion would be less expensive then buying the Marushin spares
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Post by valtteri on Aug 22, 2007 9:56:32 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I think too, at least in the states.
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