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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Aug 22, 2006 8:59:16 GMT -5
Just thought I would share some pictures with you guys. I know they are not WWII pictures… however, I hope you enjoy them. They are all of my team in our modern get ups. A tank we are building: It will look like a German Wiesel scout tank. A Functional Pak 38 we are building. We have modified it since this last picture; bigger thicker wheels, new front plating to look more realistic. It works off of compressed air and shoots water balloons that are launched out of a sabot. When the balloons land it looks like an explosion. It is pretty cool… with a range of over 500feet. Here is a picture of me in my WWII jump smock with a Tanaka Kar-98 Here is a picture of our team last summer of 2005: Well that is all I have to show for now. We really are not good about taking pictures… always forget to bring a camera with us! Anyway, I’ll be sure to get some shots of us in our WWII unit and post them up.
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Post by mauser98k on Aug 22, 2006 21:58:29 GMT -5
Very neat!! Looks like you have a nice thing going there! Your jump smock isn't ww2 pattern if you didn't know already.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Aug 22, 2006 22:14:41 GMT -5
Your FJ impression is a good start. T&W is post war for the most part but still looks good. The FJ did not use K98 ammo pouches like that but instead used a bandoleer. Though I suppose in war and during thier use as ground pounders they could have used those.. The pants have to go to atleast some field grey pants. I am sure with your guys authenticity standards you will look 100% in no time and you look pretty good right now as is. Nice functional props you guys are working on. Good luck and welcome to WW2 airsoft.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Aug 22, 2006 23:36:54 GMT -5
FJ pionners (engineers) wore the pouches and bandoleers. Yeah lose the fleck and blouse your boots. Also get the LW buckle.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Aug 22, 2006 23:47:12 GMT -5
Engineers came along after they made the FJ ground pounders right Drew? The belt looks close to an officer belt which doesn't need to have a Luft buckle. Like I said looks pretty good so far.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Aug 22, 2006 23:54:46 GMT -5
After the Jump? They jumped with them on. It dose look like an officers belt, you're right it does look pretty look.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Aug 23, 2006 0:03:58 GMT -5
Hmmm no I have never seen pictures of them with them on but I'll take your word on it. I meant after FJ's were moved into more of a land operation than doing any jumps. Normandy, Ost front I believe...so on so forth.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Aug 23, 2006 0:07:20 GMT -5
I could be wrong been a while since I looked at the pictures. You could be right AADAN, you probly do more FJ research than me.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Aug 23, 2006 0:12:22 GMT -5
That is because I have no life...
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Post by silencer on Aug 23, 2006 0:12:51 GMT -5
I heard that they had the pouches as well. They wore them as well after crete to carry more ammo im assuming this is their land operations like normandy.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Aug 23, 2006 0:17:39 GMT -5
Strange..The bandoleers hold much more ammo than the pouches do. Would seem logical that they would be more desired and they were issued to FJ...I don't think it matters he looks good either way.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Aug 23, 2006 0:21:05 GMT -5
They wore both at the same time.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Aug 23, 2006 7:37:06 GMT -5
Ok guys:
-To settle the issue on bandoleers VS pouches: they did indeed where both. However the bandoleers indeed held more ammo and were preferred.
-To settle the issue with the jump smocks not being WWII patters: I am not aware that Germans did not wear these smocks. They are indeed close enough wouldn’t you say?
-To settle the issue with the flectarn paints: Of course we are getting the German (Grey/blue) paints and blouses. If you read the statement above my picture; I said, “Here is a picture of me in my jump smock with a Kar-98”. Sorry if that was at all misleading to the point that you were lead to believe we would walk out onto the field dressed as such.
-To whomever made a stab at us for not being 100% authentic yet: that stab is most unfair and not appreciated. We only are going for about 90% authentic. We have close enough jump smocks. Our weapons will be WWII era, our gear is WWII era and our uniforms will be WWII era.
We only got into WWII Airsoft about just three weeks ago, and I feel we have a GREAT START; with 9 men- all with WWII weapons and gear. Our blouses are coming in the mail with our rank slides and our paints will be in on another shipment.
I also suspect that you will find our unit to be most challenging on the battlefield. We have been in this sport a long time and have yet to be defeated by local groups. I am quite proud of the team and my team mates for being - and becoming the group of Airsofters we are.
-For those of you who enjoyed the pictures and made comments on the props that we have worked so hard on: Thank you kindly.
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Post by mauser98k on Aug 23, 2006 10:30:22 GMT -5
I am sorry if you felt I stabbed at you, I was just wondering if you knew or not. You do have a great start, I agree with that! *definately better than my team
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Post by CharleyNovember on Aug 23, 2006 11:13:38 GMT -5
I think everyone that posted was being positive and supportive majoray. I know I was. We went off on a tangent about something but that was in no way a dig towards you or your team. Like I said good start and welcome to ww2 airsofting.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Aug 23, 2006 12:11:36 GMT -5
I think everyone that posted was being positive and supportive majoray. I know I was. We went off on a tangent about something but that was in no way a dig towards you or your team. Like I said good start and welcome to ww2 airsofting. You are right; everyone was just trying to be helpful. I didn't mean to sound hostile; it is just how we Germans come off in a conversation. Also, In regards to the flectarn paints... We might use Oak leaf paints, or something very simular. What is everyones thoughts on that?
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Post by mauser98k on Aug 23, 2006 12:58:10 GMT -5
Oak pants aren't correct for FJ, it's an SS thing. =D
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Post by CharleyNovember on Aug 23, 2006 13:43:39 GMT -5
I'm going to have to agree oak pants are very incorrect. Go with grey wool pants or grey HBT material pants if you want to go a little cheaper I know 70.00 for a pair of proper para trousers is hard to justify. Sooner or later you will probally get them though...the gear whore in you will kick in and you will have to have the right ones.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Aug 23, 2006 18:46:16 GMT -5
I bought some Swedish pants at the thrift store, they look alright for late war stuff. I will someday buy para pants...someday.
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Post by schmitty on Aug 29, 2006 0:17:27 GMT -5
Great pics. What is the tank/scout car based on (engine tracks etc..) looks very interesting.
Schmitty
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Aug 29, 2006 14:57:03 GMT -5
Great pics. What is the tank/scout car based on (engine tracks etc..) looks very interesting. Schmitty It is a Cushman trackster! 2 stroke engine, 40 horse power. It is based on a modern day German weasel tank. It is nothing more than a light tank used in spotting enemy armor and infantry movements. It has very little combat use other than a small role in infantry support. Here is a picture of a real German weasel tank:
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Post by 2nd Bat on Aug 30, 2006 14:04:12 GMT -5
The vehicle though based on a modern configuration looks to be a great initial effort. Keep us posted on it's progress. I've found with such efforts that trim an paint really makes the effort work. My recommendation is to paint a base coat on the plywood using the bedliner spray you see advertised. It's somewhat expensive but it will both protect the wood, provide texture before your camo paint scheme and fill in the rough joints. Also add light weight racks onto which you can attach foam filled mussette type bags and troop paraphenalia which will further make the vehicle look authentic. Legitimate full tracked rig is very impressive. Nice job. I'm a fan of the smaller scale vehicles as for airsoft with it's limited range it just seems right to me.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Aug 31, 2006 7:19:10 GMT -5
The vehicle though based on a modern configuration looks to be a great initial effort. Keep us posted on it's progress. I've found with such efforts that trim an paint really makes the effort work. My recommendation is to paint a base coat on the plywood using the bedliner spray you see advertised. It's somewhat expensive but it will both protect the wood, provide texture before your camo paint scheme and fill in the rough joints. Also add light weight racks onto which you can attach foam filled mussette type bags and troop paraphenalia which will further make the vehicle look authentic. Legitimate full tracked rig is very impressive. Nice job. I'm a fan of the smaller scale vehicles as for airsoft with it's limited range it just seems right to me. While your idea with a nice thick base coat of paint is not a bad one; we are actually going to fiber glass the entire outside of the tank. Then we are going to paint it. Would you recommend we use the same paint that you are speaking of on the fiber glass as well??
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