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Post by Gordak on Oct 12, 2006 0:26:07 GMT -5
I was just checking out North Korea's web site... Thats right!!! and I found this great toe tapping hand clapping, neus tieing number that you can sing along too! www.korea-dpr.com/media/kfahymn.swf(You need to cut and paste this link) Visa Requirements and Tourism 1. Passport, 2. state issued visa, 3. 50,000$ 4. 10 bags of Grain LOL -Gordak
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Post by Capt. Zak on Oct 12, 2006 6:00:45 GMT -5
We ought to give Kim Jong Dickless a free nuclear test. Drop one on him and let him see first hand what nuclear power is all about.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Oct 12, 2006 8:53:02 GMT -5
but Kim is so ronley he just needs hugs and you can't give hugs with nuclear arms can you? You can certainly blasts thier dicks into the dirt but no hugs...... ;D
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 12, 2006 21:14:27 GMT -5
I'm sorry to say that the N Korean nuclear test was like a used car salesman taking his customers on a test drive. "Let me show you what this baby can do.... " I'm sure cash poor and dickless N Korea has ready customers for the nuclear fission material they posess and their technological expertise. They just needed to prove to the customers that they really did. It would appear that their test was less then a glowing success. (much like their missle tests last year) but they clearly do have materials and some skills. This reality is far more serious then that posed by Saddam Hussein (but that's another story) At present (thanks to Iraq) our counrty has so little political equity that we're the ones sterilized by our own failed intelligence and decision making process.
Obviously going into Iraq was a huge mistake. That said we're there and along with that huge Boo Boo comes tremendous responsibility to do right by a flawed decision. I predict we will tire of the war, retire from Iraq leave them to their own self emposed horrors and be seen by the world as the toothless tiger we are. I hope and pray I am wrong but I'm willing to bet I am not. Historically any time a similar event has occured and a large emposing force has withdrawn the nation abandoned faces horrors, strife and death of massive proprotions. India and Britain, n Africa and the French, SE Asia and the US, just to name a few.
As for the war on terror, which though not intially tied to Iraq is now absolutely central to it. More people died on 9/11 then at Pearl Harbor and the target was strictly civilian (with the exception of the pentagon) Radical Muslim terrorism is a huge threat (Iraq was incidental to it by the way) What, if not 9/11 is going to have to be our Pearl Harbor to wake us up as a country? Incidently according to a Gallup poll of the time, just prior to Pearl Harbor 92% of Americans said so what if German overuns France and England, that's their problem. Most Americans wanted to stay out of the war citing our experience in WW1.
It takes a great deal to cite Americans to war and get them in the proper frame of mind to properly fight it. What's it going to take this time? Cause we aren't really going at it with the true approach one must take to win. Politicians hate to cite the comparisons between Iraq and Vietnam but everyday I read the reports and talk to my friends over there and it all sounds oh so familiar. War is horrible and should be avoided at all cost. But once you decide you're going to put your sons and daughters at risk all bets are off.
The people of the middle east have to be clearly made aware what a defeat in Afghanistan and Iraq will mean to the common family on the street. They need to be asked if that's what they want and then let them decide what they have to do to defeat the monority muslim extremists. The common nationalists of Afghanistan and Iraq have to decide that they don;t want to be a theocratic socitey ruled by Muhlas and clerics. The taliban form of rule is what the extremists seek. Our defeat (withdrawal) will no doubt mean just that (after years of bloody and horrific strife) We have been there long enough that now we are seen as invaders instead of stabilizers to the region. The countries themselves have to step up and do so soon or we are simply prolonging the inevitable. This starts with the common man on the street. Their focus should be on what their options really are and what they have to do toward a desireable outcome for themselves. Right now most of them are simply and blindly focused on getting us to leave. It's an ugly deal I predicted before we got into Iraq. I figured the only way we would have done anything this stupid is if we didn't have any choice (WMDs in the hands of a mad man) Turns out their was no more evidence then we were hearing which in my mind wasn;t nearly enough. I kept telling my liberal friends and war resistors that the CIA knew stuff they couldn't tell us about. (Wrong!) Now that there is a madman with his hands on real WMDs we have no political or military options. It sucks on sooooo many levels. Hopefully in spite of our Iraqi blunder we'll take this N Korean ding bat out and restore some order on the Korean penninsula before he sells nukes to terrorists or rogue states.
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