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Post by 101steasykid on Nov 29, 2006 16:44:50 GMT -5
Anyone have any Vietnam Marine gear they wanna sell, such as:
1x M1961 Suspenders 1x M1961 Pistol Belt 4x M1961 Ammunition Pouches 2x M1943 Canteen Covers 4x M1910 Canteen 1x USMC Jungle First Aid Kit 1x Three-Pocket Grenade Pouch 1x M1955 Flak Vest 1x M1 Steel Helmet w/ Mitchell Reversible Cover and Rubber Band 1x M14 Bandoleer
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Post by Guinness on Nov 29, 2006 18:08:40 GMT -5
Yes we do- However we have it all cleverly hidden on eBay, Moore Militaria and your F.L.A.S.S. -G
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Post by 101steasykid on Nov 29, 2006 18:12:36 GMT -5
well yes, but it's easier to get stuff from the boards since moore's is pricey, ebay isnt always garentee to be yours. Also my local army and navy store barely see's m55's. They are lacking suspenders, and wire canteen pouches, and m62 belts. They really only have m14 pouches, all the rest is like m56 or m67 regular army gear
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Post by Nimlas on Nov 29, 2006 18:28:54 GMT -5
Go to flea markets.....
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Post by jmhpa on Sept 25, 2007 16:22:33 GMT -5
Hey wait a minute: What is F.L.A.S.S. ??
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Post by Cpl. Hicks on Sept 25, 2007 22:49:05 GMT -5
To answer his question, I think it means 'Friendly Little? Army Surplus Store'.
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 25, 2007 23:13:22 GMT -5
All of this came from Vets and a few flea markets , i think i have spent about $20 putting it all together.
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Post by 101steasykid on Sept 26, 2007 4:22:17 GMT -5
Friendly Local Army Surplus Store, but it's the same thing. For a basic loadout, adler is very close to being dead on. During Vietnam, as in most wars, troops would mix their webgear in and out. For example: Adler has an M56 Compass pouch, which was not standard to a Marine's webgear. It could be traded, private purchased, or stolen from one who was issued it (Recon, Army, Navy, etc).
Also, for earlier to late war, m43 canteen covers would be more correct. In the picture, you see a set of m56 canteen covers, which would be seen around 1968 to the end of the war. For a complete basic set, look at adlers, and take away the m56 aid pouch, replace the m56 canteen covers with m43 canteen covers, add suspender pads, use a grenade ring or tape to hold the suspenders together, and three pocket grenade pouch.
Also, during the Tet offensive, many marines used bandoliers, and dropped their webgear. They would use the hanger canteen covers on their m1955 flak vests for water, as well as the hangers on their aid kits. Plus, in 1968, most marines modified their webgear to a point (Added ammo pouches, m56 gear, more canteens, etc).
Again, that is for a loadout that can be used from 1965-1973! Adlers would probaly only be passible (for standard grunt) 1968-1973.
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 26, 2007 8:04:35 GMT -5
Yeah , my loadout is for a 1969 Marine Scout Sniper that's why i don't have the Grenade pouch and an Army first aid/compass pouch.
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Post by polak on Sept 26, 2007 16:53:53 GMT -5
Friendly Local Army Surplus Store, but it's the same thing. For a basic loadout, adler is very close to being dead on. During Vietnam, as in most wars, troops would mix their webgear in and out. For example: Adler has an M56 Compass pouch, which was not standard to a Marine's webgear. It could be traded, private purchased, or stolen from one who was issued it (Recon, Army, Navy, etc). Also, for earlier to late war, m43 canteen covers would be more correct. In the picture, you see a set of m56 canteen covers, which would be seen around 1968 to the end of the war. For a complete basic set, look at adlers, and take away the m56 aid pouch, replace the m56 canteen covers with m43 canteen covers, add suspender pads, use a grenade ring or tape to hold the suspenders together, and three pocket grenade pouch. Also, during the Tet offensive, many marines used bandoliers, and dropped their webgear. They would use the hanger canteen covers on their m1955 flak vests for water, as well as the hangers on their aid kits. Plus, in 1968, most marines modified their webgear to a point (Added ammo pouches, m56 gear, more canteens, etc). Again, that is for a loadout that can be used from 1965-1973! Adlers would probaly only be passible (for standard grunt) 1968-1973. Many Marines traded gear with Army troops during Tet. So, I guess a piece of M67 gear could be explained. Yeah, raid your stores before you even touch Moore Militaria. I've probably spent $100 on what could have been easily $300. However, I'm not one of those REMF-wannabes who likes his applesauce in mint condition. Most of my stuff looks disgusting, but playing the part is a lot easier with it. (Derailing thread) By the way, G&G got a new M14 out, and I'm thinking about buying it. Any words of advice?
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Post by gunfreak on Sept 27, 2007 11:45:18 GMT -5
it's weird I test all mye vests and webbing today and I found I like the M56 best, it's just very sturdy and comfterble to ware.
I tested
WW2 webbnig with thompson pockets and Cartridge belt M56 webbing ALICE BHI chestrigg CK Rifle vest and CIRAS
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 27, 2007 15:18:46 GMT -5
Great you guys keep it to PM's. I think we have some great info and people here lets all get along.
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Post by 101steasykid on Sept 27, 2007 15:27:14 GMT -5
I loved my G&G M14. It was a bit heavier than the Tokyo Marui M14, and the wood work was great. It had texture, and you could see the grain better than on the Tokyo Marui wood. It didn't have that annoying shine to it either. For skirmishing, it is stunning. They are hard shooters straight out of the box, around 300-325. I upgraded mine to 395fps with .20's, and it would hit every target I aimed at. For being authentic, I must say it is pretty dead on. Everything from the brown barrel cover to the look of the magazine. The only thing is it's trademarks are not 100% accurate. It says G&G Armament instead of Springfield Armory. It's nothing noticeable, but if you are a trademark whore, watch out for that!
Also, M67 gear wouldn't be seen with the Marines until 1973, when they were evacuating the US Embassy. I am not saying it wouldn't have been seen at all, but not as much as m56 gear, and m61/m43 gear would over power them all. During the evac in 1973, you would see marines with OG-107's, and ERDL's, m1955 flak vests, bandoliers, m16a1's, m67 gear, m56 gear, and m61 gear. They usually were lightly equipped as they were on "Guard Duty".
I hope this helps everyone out.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 27, 2007 16:33:11 GMT -5
The only things I don't like on the G&G M-14s is the motor whine they all seem to have when firing on semi (compared to the other M-14s) and the strange magazine deviation at the top. (They feature a zig zag shaped top) You also can only partially pull the bolt back which is really not such a big deal.
Incidently they now shoot a good consistent 360+ FPS right out of the box and the early teething problems have apparently been eliminated as I'm not hearing any complaints about them.
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Post by 101steasykid on Sept 27, 2007 16:42:10 GMT -5
I love the sound of the G&G m14. I think it is a personal oppinon though. My two m16vn's and m16a1 all had this screaming sound to them, and just sounded whimpy. My G&G m14 had this powerful whine/thud sound and you could feel a tiny kick, compared to most AEG's I have handeled (Tokyo Marui M14, AGM M14, Tokyo Marui M16A1, Tokyo Marui M16VN, Tokyo Marui M1a1, Tokyo Marui AK-47, AGM MP-40). Again, I think it was my personal oppinon, and added to the effect. The magazine is kind of akward to get in the first few times. Make sure to practice in your room before going out on the field, as with everything rifle!
Also, 2nd Bat. I added a bit of oil on the G&G m14 bolt, and it moves all the way back. The little ball that sides the bolt back usually dries up, and needs to be oiled every once and a while.
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Post by polak on Sept 28, 2007 20:44:52 GMT -5
I loved my G&G M14. It was a bit heavier than the Tokyo Marui M14, and the wood work was great. It had texture, and you could see the grain better than on the Tokyo Marui wood. It didn't have that annoying shine to it either. For skirmishing, it is stunning. They are hard shooters straight out of the box, around 300-325. I upgraded mine to 395fps with .20's, and it would hit every target I aimed at. For being authentic, I must say it is pretty dead on. Everything from the brown barrel cover to the look of the magazine. The only thing is it's trademarks are not 100% accurate. It says G&G Armament instead of Springfield Armory. It's nothing noticeable, but if you are a trademark whore, watch out for that! Also, M67 gear wouldn't be seen with the Marines until 1973, when they were evacuating the US Embassy. I am not saying it wouldn't have been seen at all, but not as much as m56 gear, and m61/m43 gear would over power them all. During the evac in 1973, you would see marines with OG-107's, and ERDL's, m1955 flak vests, bandoliers, m16a1's, m67 gear, m56 gear, and m61 gear. They usually were lightly equipped as they were on "Guard Duty". I hope this helps everyone out. Yeah, true. By the dead-end of the Vietnam war, most troops wore what we see National Guardsmen using, considering it still is compatible with most of our stuff. The Marine Corps had the LINCLOE small arms ammunition carrier in short use by '73, still very common among the Armed Services. Hell, back in '01, the local ANG unit was using M67 gear. But yeah, airsoftgi has a great deal on the new M14. I'm really considering buying it.
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