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Post by gunfreak on Sept 26, 2007 15:54:21 GMT -5
we got in a descusion over at my lockal club forum,
the problem is that airsoft is frowed upon in norway, lots of 14 year olds runnig around with gun and cops almost shooting them ect.
it's now talk about restricting who can buy airsoftguns.
and we are talking about how deep in it we would be in the general public see's pics of norwegians in germans uniforms. beeing occupied during WW2 there is still a lot of hate againt Third Reich soldiers.
so my question go's to those that play WW2 airsoft in former occupied countries. the Polish, French, Dutch ect. how do the population relate to young(or old) menn runnig around in german uniforms?
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Post by Guinness on Sept 26, 2007 18:51:12 GMT -5
Great question gunfreak! I have wondered this myself, especially when I saw the "SS trip to Russia" thread......
Yikes! there is no way in **** I would go to Russia in a German uniform! especially a SS uni!!
I believe click may be able to speak to this, being in Poland and all
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Post by Jager.Drü on Sept 26, 2007 21:35:58 GMT -5
Believe it or not, Russia has one of the highest percent of Skinheads/Neo-nazis in the world.
Personally, I don't think it will be a big deal.
There was a big re-enactment in Carentan, FR this year. The first time "Germans" had been in there since after the war. No problems with the locals. Note, its against the law to display a swastikas in France.
As long as they don't go overboard, "Heiling" Hilter and whatnot, also conduct themselves professionally.
Its not the same here, We weren't occupied nor attacked.
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Post by valtteri on Sept 27, 2007 2:40:45 GMT -5
Russia is a big country, and a very special one. Running around in public wearing SS gear would stir some trouble or at least angry looks in just about every country. There is a strong reenactment scene among some (rich) russians, and they have no troubles with people portraying Germans - they like to do SS a lot themselves. It tells a lot that when a television company made a documentary of Winter War and wanted to shoot some reenactors to get some appropriate material, they went to Russia and used 100% Russians - there are probably more well-equipped Russians portraying Finnish soldiers than there are Finnish! There wouldn't be no trouble going to an reenactor event to Russia - it might be pretty cool actually, since they have some SPACE, and those who can afford reenacting would probably be generally much richer than any of us, so they might be able to set up pretty good events. There is another mentality too in Russia. If you're Finnish and in Russia, in Victory day it's downright dangerous to step outside. Do that in German gear and you're surely beaten. What surfaces then tells me that there is still deep bitterness in Russian culture for what happened in WW2, and in that day Russians are openly aggressive to former opponents. No use trying to tell that the Finnish war effort was separate from Germany, but against common enemy.. "A nazi is a nazi is a nazi" is what they think. Like in any, developing country, there are a lot more aggressive, poor people, who do not need much to get agitated. One victory day they went and did a lot of damage to Finnish soldiers' graveyard. And this is in former Finnish territory, for a war in which they invaded us!
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Post by mikkel on Sept 27, 2007 9:57:44 GMT -5
My (SS) reenactment unit went to sct. Petersborg (Leningrad) last winter and reenacted the siege of Leningrad at the very same battlefield as was used all those years ago in 1944. They even used the original fortifications (MG bunkers, PAK bunkers). It was a bit of a hassle with the russian customs, but in the end, all turned out well. The russians had no problem with the SS, and there was also a russian based SS unit that participated in the battle.
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Post by polak on Oct 2, 2007 21:05:34 GMT -5
Russia is a big country, and a very special one. Running around in public wearing SS gear would stir some trouble or at least angry looks in just about every country. There is a strong reenactment scene among some (rich) russians, and they have no troubles with people portraying Germans - they like to do SS a lot themselves. It tells a lot that when a television company made a documentary of Winter War and wanted to shoot some reenactors to get some appropriate material, they went to Russia and used 100% Russians - there are probably more well-equipped Russians portraying Finnish soldiers than there are Finnish! There wouldn't be no trouble going to an reenactor event to Russia - it might be pretty cool actually, since they have some SPACE, and those who can afford reenacting would probably be generally much richer than any of us, so they might be able to set up pretty good events. There is another mentality too in Russia. If you're Finnish and in Russia, in Victory day it's downright dangerous to step outside. Do that in German gear and you're surely beaten. What surfaces then tells me that there is still deep bitterness in Russian culture for what happened in WW2, and in that day Russians are openly aggressive to former opponents. No use trying to tell that the Finnish war effort was separate from Germany, but against common enemy.. "A nazi is a nazi is a nazi" is what they think. Like in any, developing country, there are a lot more aggressive, poor people, who do not need much to get agitated. One victory day they went and did a lot of damage to Finnish soldiers' graveyard. And this is in former Finnish territory, for a war in which they invaded us! Of course, it's fine when you waltz around the Katyn forest or the Vistula wearing Russian garb, yeah?
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