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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Oct 17, 2005 11:18:58 GMT -5
This message is for the new people. When you have a bag, be it a Haversack or Musette Bag, Fill it with something when your out on the field. it makes you impression look alot better. For example, when I 1st got my haversack, I put in a towel. as time passed, I put more authentic things in the bag: Repo GI towels repo german towel 2 pairs of GI socks extra pair of leggings wax boxed carisle bandage and in the meat can pouch I have Original Knife,Fork & Spoon set meat can this is a pic when all I had in my bag was a towel and a meat can: here is a pic of someone who doesnt have anything in his bag:
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Post by phantom12321 on Oct 17, 2005 15:59:35 GMT -5
hey >:-0
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Oct 17, 2005 16:21:07 GMT -5
I meant no offense
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Post by phantom12321 on Oct 17, 2005 20:39:50 GMT -5
I know you didn't mean it I was just kidding
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Post by 29ththebestofthebest on Dec 20, 2005 23:25:34 GMT -5
did the 29th infantry wear bandoleers or was that just the paratroopers
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Dec 21, 2005 7:26:21 GMT -5
bandoleers were for everyone
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Post by Capt. Zak on Dec 21, 2005 7:30:22 GMT -5
Everyone wore bandoleers.
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Post by 29ththebestofthebest on Dec 21, 2005 10:53:08 GMT -5
thanks
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Post by 29ththebestofthebest on Dec 21, 2005 11:01:58 GMT -5
would I wear it across the chest
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Post by 2nd bat on Dec 21, 2005 17:19:18 GMT -5
Yes, Typically that's how they were carried. See the pictures form the NW Battle of the Bulge. Several guys had bandoleers around their chests. Another nice touch was the strips of brown wool blankets worn as scarves. Still another nice detail is silk strips of camo parachute worn as a scarf. Especially common with airborne troops but also done by reg Infantry. If you have some plastic grenades they look good hooked on the web gear as does a garand clip or two slid into the suspenders at the chest. These things are all sold on Ebay and are nice touches.
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Post by Guinness on Dec 21, 2005 21:18:47 GMT -5
Speaking of 'nades- spefically Mk2 Fragmentation grenades, ;D I am currently working on painting up a batch of them and offering them for sale to reenactors- Understand these are not the lite-weight plastic 'poser' pineapples, ;D but iron-cast from the real grenade mold heavy don't -drop-on-your-foot-grenades (inert of course) I'm selling them for $10 bucks a piece. While these do not have the 100% correct WWII spoon and fuse, they aren't $35 bucks either and as John said, they look excellent on your suspenders or web gear. If anyone wants a set, just PM me. -G
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Post by phantom12321 on Dec 22, 2005 1:17:00 GMT -5
yes I learned the hard way not to keep an inert grenade on a shelf overlooking your bed. My sternum still hurts when it rains
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Post by 29ththerealpimps on Dec 26, 2005 14:26:52 GMT -5
will someone please tell me where i can get a havorsack atthefront is sold out and i was also wondering if aussalt vests have havorsacks
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2005 18:57:54 GMT -5
it was more of a mustte bag on the back of the assault vest
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Post by Guinness on Dec 26, 2005 20:20:12 GMT -5
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Post by phantom12321 on Dec 26, 2005 21:13:43 GMT -5
I got a real nice one from bayonetinc.com I was very happy with them and they weren't too expensive. They do sometimes run out of repro ones and when that happens they will email you asking if you would like to wait for a repro or get an original for the same price. That happened to me and I got an original and it was in extremely good condition.
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Post by 29ththerealpimps on Dec 26, 2005 22:48:59 GMT -5
did the aussalt vests hold the shovel on the back
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Post by 2nd bat on Dec 26, 2005 23:29:51 GMT -5
The T handled entrenching tool had its own pouch which slid under the meat can (mess kit pouch) and attached via the conventional U shaped hooks. The handle tied down with the straps on the pack. Technically the haversack was intended to hold the traditional GI bedroll which consisted of a wool blanket and complete shelter half which included four tent stakes and three sections of tent pole (1/2 of a pup tent) These were rolled about three feet long into a tube which hung down the back of the pack using the haversacks straps. This was done in garrison but seldom seen properly rolled in the field. usually in combat the pack became a catch all, day pack with the bib drawn in to a shorter more traditional looking pack. Often the bayonet would be attached along the side of the pack. There were additional section lengths called "diapers" which extended the size of the pack to accomodate additional items. Leather treaded thru the pack held it in place. My father showed me exactly how to load all this both as a garrison proper manner and field expedient manner. It was quite fascinating and would constitute a nice article for all US reeanactors. Without his help I never would have figured it out. The haversack was a really archaic design left over from the great war. The late war designed folding shovel had it's own designed pouch and was a copy of the German design which enabled the GI to combine a pick with a shovel. In the absence of the pouch you might see the shovel folded over a piece of web gear, tightened and carried that way. It could be attached to packs or web gear. Incidently the airborne troops had a shorter handled shovel issued to them.
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Dec 27, 2005 7:35:12 GMT -5
if you have a assult vest, then you'd pack your stuff into it, thats why there is soo many pouches on it. and yes the assult vest has a spot for your shovel:
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 27, 2005 12:20:03 GMT -5
The assault vest pictured above: (AtThefront) is a real quality item At $200.00 it's quite spendy but represents a fair value for what it cost to make in small quantities. One cautionary note: The item itself was a highly unpopular piece of gear. The troops saw them as hot, heavy and restrictive to wear. They were limited issue to just a few divisions and elite troops. (rangers mostly) and even they "lost" them within a few weeks of landing.
I find an ammo belt and suspenders far more comfortable to wear and even when doing "Modern" airsoft still wear my old 60s web gear and H harness. My son teases me about it.
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Feb 6, 2006 22:49:10 GMT -5
i'm definately interested in buying probably 2-4 of those beautifully painted pineapple grenades.i'm just wondering if there repro or original. (doesnt affect the sale either way). if you could just give me your PM adress then i can order some.
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Post by Guinness on Feb 7, 2006 0:40:51 GMT -5
Screamineagle101- You can email me directly at elguaposo@yahoo.com- As far as 'real' or 'repro', they are 'real' iron castings made from genuine molds- so I guess I would classify then as 'repro' in that they have never seen explosives inside them. If you notice from the pics of me in the 'My Impression So Far' thread under the Allied Impressions section, they are hollow i.e. hole at the bottom. I did that for two reasons, the main one being to be able to show quickly that they are inert and non-lethal, so as to avoid "hassles with the 'Man' ".....man ;D I am working on a couple of methods to change that however, one is the ever useful JB Weld over the bottom and the other is finding a flat screw-head to place in there- again my only worry is someone thinking that you are handling a real grenade........that could end badly So I am weighing the 'authenticity' factor against the 'common sense' factor And I have seen many many photos of reenacting groups with MK2's with a hole in the bottom. The other thing to note is most of the ones I make do not have the springs in the top so the spoon will not fly off when you pull the pin. I have played around with a few colors, but the 'Field Drab' aervoe camo paint color seems to be the closest to the genuine article for the '44-'45 time period. As well, the yellow in the picture above is a bit off- I have gone to a yellow that has a bit more of a gold-ish cast, which is more correct. And lastly, since they are iron, they are only a few ounces lighter than a 'real' grenade because they don't have the TNT inside. -G
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