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Post by gunfreak on Nov 12, 2005 6:03:36 GMT -5
got my a Garand Bayonet, didn't fit at first but with some filing i got it to sit, but now, were to but it, yes the obvious on the belt, but is there any smart place the "airborne" guys put it, I'm running out of room on the cartridge belt, and I'm planing to do a D-day kit to, with gas mask bag and whatnot.
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Nov 12, 2005 11:37:06 GMT -5
you can tie it to your leg
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 12, 2005 13:12:05 GMT -5
I can assure you from first hand experience that the bayonet would not be on the cartridge belt when jumping. As mentioned above it would either be strapped to the leg down by your ankle (Quite common) or in the drop bag or mussette bag where it would be attached later (following the landing) Another item commonly attached to the ankle were gammon grenades (WW2 variation of a Claymore . It Looked like a tin flask.
You probably already know this but a knife all airborne troopers had was a small jackknife that fit in the small zippered pouch up by your throat in the M42 tunic. This could be easily accessed to cut shroud lines even when in the full rigging if need be.
I jumped at Normandy for the 60th anniversary in period garb having jumped alot 30+ years ago for uncle sugar. It was a powerful reminder of the challenges jumping with lots of the required gear. Mine was all stuffed with bubble wrap cause I'm old but the other reeanctors all had the full weight. To get a sense for how you might arrange your gear either imagine or actually perform a simulated PLF from about 3 feet off the ground while wearing all your gear. If it suddendly doesn't make sense or you know it would interfere or hurt you, you'll no doubt figure out a different way to arrange it. This will probably end up being very much like was done and quite accurate.
I have some camo scarves cut from a WW2 parachute for a nice touch on your impression if interested.
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Post by Guinness on Nov 12, 2005 14:37:43 GMT -5
2nd Bat- can you resend those pics to me- I will post them for ya ;D
-G
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Post by gunfreak on Nov 12, 2005 14:46:03 GMT -5
thanks for the input. the ankle/leg was my thinking to. i just have to fined a way to get it to sit, so when i pull the bayo the scabbard stays in play, while it's still comfortable to walk and run with,
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 13, 2005 15:14:45 GMT -5
You might use Canvas lacing (like your leg ties that go around your cargo pockets to keep them from tearing when full of stuff during a jump) Or use cloth tape or electrical tape which was very commonly used to secure items. Be sure to attach the upper portion of your scabbard so it doesn't flop around and you can still draw the knife/ bayonet. Mostly they'll be affixed to your boot so comfort shouldn't be a factor. Without some cloth tape the lacing will loosen as you run around.
Following the jump, the first time a trooper removed their boots they probably re secured the bayonet to their web gear. You should have room using the lower loop holes even with canteens, a holster, first aid pouch and assorted other attachements. Some units were very anal about SOPs on where everything was supposed to go (especially the first aid pouch) but most units left it up to the discretion of the individual soldier.
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Post by smokeythebear on Feb 24, 2006 16:11:08 GMT -5
i knew you could attach a bayonet to the m1 but it still seems odd to me dont know why
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 24, 2006 16:23:08 GMT -5
I'm not sure I understand the comment?
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Post by 101st all the way! on Feb 25, 2006 17:25:05 GMT -5
If you need to know where to put stuff just watch S.P.R or B.o.B thats what I do
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Post by Go4Broke on Feb 25, 2006 17:28:20 GMT -5
...Or you could crack open a good ol' book and do some real research lol .
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Post by 101st all the way! on Feb 25, 2006 20:17:45 GMT -5
Ya that works too.
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