oberst42
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Post by oberst42 on Jun 19, 2009 17:12:18 GMT -5
in an effort to raise intrest in WWI airsoft, i will detail the fighting in trenches, i base some of the fighting on a thng my friend does called dagorhir, it's a combat sport where people dressed as medieval warriors beat the crap out of eachother with PVC foam padded weapons, my idea is to use this method to replicate the hand-to-hand fighting that went on inside the trenches, using these building methods to make bayonets, entrenching shovels, and fighting knives, and of course it won't all be melee, there will be sniping, sapping, and fire fights in no mans land. One, if not the most important, element of trench warfare is artillery, my idea for that is to have water balloons filled with some sort of powder, so that when they hit, the powder will simulate an explosion, whoever gets the powder on their uniform is out, and in the treches there will be bunkers to get away from the blast, and i have an idea for gas attacks to, i saw a video on youtube, if i find it i'll post in here, the video showed how to make pull-ring smoke grenades, and another one showed how to make the smoke mix, and how to color it, my idea is to have 3rd PZG style-guns with breech loading, and in that breech have something for the ring to hook on to, so when the gun blasts it out the smoke starts coming out of the grenade, and the smoke would be color coded: yellow- mustard gas, white - chlorine gas, blue - cyanide gas, not actually of course, i'll post new ideas as i come up with them
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Post by partisan on Jun 19, 2009 18:17:50 GMT -5
i LOVE this idea. tommey gunner should make a french LEBEL 8x50 rifle.
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Post by Schwerpunkt on Jun 19, 2009 19:22:27 GMT -5
wells thats the key isnt it. In order to get ww1 airsoft off the ground you need a bunch of cottage industry types like tommygunner and others to turn out a whole bunch of bolt action rifles and water cooled mgs. i love the idea and think ww1 airsoft has great potential. the obstacles are really just material ones.
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Post by Medic on Jun 19, 2009 19:28:24 GMT -5
He makes Enfields, Springfields and Mausers are out in a few places. As long as you can find WWI kit I guess, I haven't seen much of it.
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 19, 2009 20:04:15 GMT -5
He makes Enfields, Springfields and Mausers are out in a few places. As long as you can find WWI kit I guess, I haven't seen much of it. Where've you been looking?? There's a LOT of us who've been doing WW1 for years. I have a Doughboy kit,used to do late War German. There's a few dealers who make VERY nice uniforms and equipment.
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oberst42
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Post by oberst42 on Jun 19, 2009 21:27:08 GMT -5
Schipperfabrik.com makes good uniforms and gear
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Post by elder90 on Jun 21, 2009 15:02:17 GMT -5
ive been wanting to do WWI for a long time i want to do a doughboy impression with a springfield i think that would be the coolest
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Post by oberst42 on Jun 21, 2009 18:14:45 GMT -5
i'm working on a forum for WW1 airsoft, when i'm finished i'll post the URL
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Post by vicnaire on Jun 21, 2009 19:03:26 GMT -5
LOL one of the reasons i settled for WW2 airsoft is cuz i couldnt find anything for WWI airsoft
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Post by oberst42 on Jun 21, 2009 20:25:29 GMT -5
same here
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Post by jlay73 on Jun 21, 2009 23:15:42 GMT -5
One questtion who makes or would make airsoft weapons?
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Post by elder90 on Jun 21, 2009 23:27:21 GMT -5
im going to make myself a springfield but im in CO there isnt a wwii unit here so theres no hope for me in both WWI and WWII
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Post by vicnaire on Jun 22, 2009 8:31:11 GMT -5
if you were to do WWI the one problem would be that most of the weapons used would be Springfields and Kar98s. so your missing the French and British portion of the allies. other than that though it sounds pretty good, of course we would need to find some site that could sell rubber bayonets for the Springfields and Kar98s
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Post by airbornerocks on Jun 22, 2009 10:17:59 GMT -5
I would think it would be a very good idea for a game, but you would need to allow WW2 impressions. I think a Mark tank could be made out of a golfcart, it would be cool
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Post by vicnaire on Jun 22, 2009 10:22:51 GMT -5
well i think if u had the British Tommy helmets or whatever they are called then those could work for British and Americans, but i think other WW2 equipment could work i think, except if ur french
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Post by partisan on Jun 22, 2009 10:28:21 GMT -5
you can buy french adrian helmets on ima-usa they are or look like the ones from wwi
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Post by vicnaire on Jun 22, 2009 10:35:42 GMT -5
so im guessing we would have just 2 very long trenches and alot of people on each side? anyway if u were to do that u could have it so every 30 minutes or so reinforcments(the people that got out) could come back and fight, that way it could be an all day fight and people wouldnt feel left out, but have a time limit for a certain amount of people move out into no mans land
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Post by Adler69 on Jun 22, 2009 13:55:12 GMT -5
A WWI trench system was very intricate , you have the fore most trench where the troops lived and fought from , behind that you have the supply trenches , then the communication trenches , all where linked to each other by smaller trenches . By the way , a WWI French M15 Adrian Helmet is different than a WWII M26 French Adrian Helmet. WWI M15 Adrian This where painted Blue, the brim was made from 2 pieces that where then attached to the main part of the helmet on a rolled edge , wich also was used to attach the helmets liner and chinstrap WWII M26 Adrian This helmets where painted Olive Drab , it was made from one piece and the brim then received a small metal rim , like the US M1 helmet, the line and chin strap where then attached using rivets .
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Post by partisan on Jun 22, 2009 14:45:20 GMT -5
somebody knows there helmets nice info
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 22, 2009 15:12:53 GMT -5
if you were to do WWI the one problem would be that most of the weapons used would be Springfields and Kar98s. so your missing the French and British portion of the allies. other than that though it sounds pretty good, of course we would need to find some site that could sell rubber bayonets for the Springfields and Kar98s Not so.The more abundant US weapon was the M1917 Enfield. More of these were issued than the 03 ever was in WW1. AND,there was NO Kar98 in WW1. There was the 98a.Which was the carbine version of the Gewehr 98. And it wasn't universally issued.Only to Sturmtruppen,artillery and cavalry. MOST regular German infantry had the long G98.
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Post by tm47 on Jun 22, 2009 15:59:17 GMT -5
I've always found the idea of WWI Airsoft interesting. Tommygunner makes a Springfield and (at least he used to) a SMLE. I did read about a guy who converted his DBoys Kar98k into a G98(http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=56776827) as well and killbucket has his MGs. For artillery the powder sounds like a bad design(to much like paintball) perhaps a sabot round so bbs will fall on the enemy's head simulating an air-burst. To start off however I think it would be best to allow "look-alike" weapons and uniforms so people can get a taste of it before buying the expensive equipment
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Post by elder90 on Jun 22, 2009 16:09:59 GMT -5
To start off however I think it would be best to allow "look-alike" weapons and uniforms so people can get a taste of it before buying the expensive equipment yes great idea like i cant afford to buy any of the WWI gear so i would go get the next best thing a lookalike
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Post by 5thrangerbat on Jun 22, 2009 16:24:59 GMT -5
This all sounds good but the thing is If i ever did this my only issue would that i would want the downgrading of fps on the custom guns from sniper rifles. getting shot by 380-500 fps guns will hurt!
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Post by airbornerocks on Jun 22, 2009 18:55:56 GMT -5
I think an airsoft Mark tank would be cool. It could probably be made with a pickup truck or golf cart.
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Post by elder90 on Jun 22, 2009 20:41:55 GMT -5
or an ATV
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Post by airbornerocks on Jun 22, 2009 21:03:47 GMT -5
^ Yes that could also work. I think the rules for respawning should be. 1. A shot above the crotch means your dead. 2. A shot below would be a wound. 3. After being shot, or 'dead" you must wait 10 minutes before going back to your trench. Once you are their, the "dead" players are sent to a small portion where they wait five more minutes. The wounded will go to another room, given a small cloth wrap around their shoulder. They wait three minutes and are ready for the front. Then the "dead" players can go back also to battle. Having working mortars would work well in the battle. If anyone would like to add own, go ahead
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Post by oberst42 on Jun 23, 2009 0:19:59 GMT -5
guns aren't used in trenches, read my original post
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 23, 2009 7:35:32 GMT -5
To start off however I think it would be best to allow "look-alike" weapons and uniforms so people can get a taste of it before buying the expensive equipment yes great idea like i cant afford to buy any of the WWI gear so i would go get the next best thing a lookalike Uhh, no. I do WW1 reenacting,and it's one of the more AUTHENTIC experiences, and periods I do. Doing it "half-ass" so to speak isn't the way to go about it. The fact is WW1 just is NOT that popular to MOST people. Hell,thats why we only have TWO WW1 events a year,it's not popular,and its not cheap. You can get an ENTIRE reproduction WW2 German kit from head to toe,and it will be under $500 . WW1 is another story. The last German bluse I had was nearly $400 by itself. And no,you can't use a WW2 tunic,it's not even close! EVERYTHING is different. Helmet,weapon,canteen,breadbag,mess kit,even the gas mask and canister. British,forget it,the 08 web gear will break the bank,as will the Brody helmet. French? LOL! Right! Go get a mortgage for that kit! American is probably the LEAST expensive to do. the helmet will run you a lot,but they reproduce everything else,and is relatively inexpensive. Some of us older guys MAY be able to afford to do it,but you're not getting any 17/18 year olds or younger to drop massive amounts of cash to do it.
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Post by vicnaire on Jun 23, 2009 8:34:50 GMT -5
well i have a contact who gives me money for airsoft, on July 17th im getting about $5,000 so i can afford it, plus the money i got in the bank. im 16 and i think i could afford a basic kit
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Post by mischief on Jun 23, 2009 9:19:03 GMT -5
well i have a contact who gives me money for airsoft, on July 17th im getting about $5,000 so i can afford it, plus the money i got in the bank. im 16 and i think i could afford a basic kit Now I'm just all kinds of imrpressed a "contact" huh...gives a 16year old five grand... all I can say is wow yawn
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