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Post by savage94 on Jul 9, 2009 15:45:18 GMT -5
i want to do this! does anyone have any ideas or have done it before? I am working on the plans for my idea. as soon as i can i will post pics of my idea!
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Post by savage94 on Jul 9, 2009 18:25:20 GMT -5
i was looking at the azrs m1928 kit , and i think that design could be done with ease, considering that my grandfather has been a machinist for over 30 years. still working on the plans. and i finally had the guts to take the barrel off.
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Post by lrich on Jul 9, 2009 19:41:41 GMT -5
Well one thing you are going to run into having a problem is that the barrel is about .1 inches thick. Therefore, you wont get much ribbing to speak of before the barrel becomes too weak to do anything with. Also, to put it on a lathe you have to cut off the mounting bar (which is actually correct for an m1928) and then I was able to get shallow ribs in mine. I am next working on using some .5 inch aluminum tubing with epoxy on the outside to build it up for my second one, as that would be much lighter and less wasteful than using 1 inch bar stock and cutting half of it away. Doing it the AZR way would work, but i hope you have some big tap and die sets, because as you see, you have to thread it, which, assuming your grandfather kept most of his kit, he would probably have some of those. Good luck.
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Post by savage94 on Jul 10, 2009 5:01:01 GMT -5
oh , i forgot to mention that im making a new barrel much like the azr. im not using the original.and my grandfather has his own shop.he does jobs for local companys , so if this comes out nice i might convince him to make a bunch of them. and then probably sell them on here. i WILL BE MAKING A BARREL AND CUTS COMPENSATOR SIMILAR TO THIS BUT NOT EXACTLY !
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Post by corporalkitten on Jul 10, 2009 9:21:36 GMT -5
Well, I think that some people would, but my vote (the first vote) says no. It is a good idea, but I do not have that kind of money.
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Post by savage94 on Jul 10, 2009 11:11:31 GMT -5
yeah i realize that the price is a little high.im just saying though if this comes out good and people would want it i could convince my grandfather to help me make these. might i ask what you would pay for it?
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Post by detasman on Jul 10, 2009 12:58:16 GMT -5
Second NO vote is mine. Cyma is coming out with its own M1928 AEG. Although this gun fails on its receiver and charging bolt design, it has a ribbed barrel, cutts compensator, correct rear site, and front pistol grip. All this can be had for close to $200. I had been tracking the release of this gun for a while until I lost interest. However, I do believe this gun is currently available.
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Post by savage94 on Jul 10, 2009 13:44:02 GMT -5
how do i edit the poll? i thought about it and i think 100 is a fair price
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Post by Nimlas on Jul 10, 2009 14:16:32 GMT -5
What about a proper M1928 receiver?
Will you be making those as well? Without the correct receiver the barrel is worthless.
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Post by corporalkitten on Jul 10, 2009 14:29:28 GMT -5
On my farbtasticly awesome m1928 (if I had one) I would be okay with the M1A1 reciever, ribbed barrel, cutts compensator, M1928 stock, M1928 Sight, and M1A1 foregrip.
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Post by Nimlas on Jul 10, 2009 14:34:09 GMT -5
On my farbtasticly awesome m1928 (if I had one) I would be okay with the M1A1 reciever, ribbed barrel, cutts compensator, M1928 stock, M1928 Sight, and M1A1 foregrip. But most wouldn't and most wouldn't want to pay top dollar for such a thing either. Just sayin'.
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Post by savage94 on Jul 10, 2009 14:54:23 GMT -5
for the receiver i was thinking about taking a m1a1 receiver and modifying it so it has the correct top charging handle and rear sight. im not sure about having the flip up sight though. that would be more.
And i think 100.00 dollars is a great price for the barrel and cutts compensator .
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Post by Gordak on Jul 10, 2009 15:22:18 GMT -5
the old caw kit, had the 1 peice barrel, cuts compensator, elevating rear sight, complete 1928 receiver with working charging handle, all pakerized for $210 futhermore it eliminated the weak barrel flaw which yours does not.
So Unless you had it dead nuts perfect and in steel Id say not a chance. - Gordak
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Post by savage94 on Jul 10, 2009 16:42:46 GMT -5
how does it eliminate the weak barrel flaw? and i dont think they make those anymore.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jul 10, 2009 16:55:48 GMT -5
I think its a great price. If you could get the whole kit including reciever for a resonable price I am sure people would buy it.
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Post by savage94 on Jul 10, 2009 17:04:16 GMT -5
thanks,sgttom i was starting to lose all hope! would you be interested?
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jul 10, 2009 18:15:48 GMT -5
I don't have any interest at this time but there has been a lot of interest for a 1928 Thompson on this forum and others. I don't see why people wouldn't buy it if the product was good and the price was resonable.
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Post by savage94 on Jul 10, 2009 19:54:00 GMT -5
yeah im confused, out of all the tommy attempts and people saying they want a ribbed barrel and they dont know where to get one. and now no one would buy one. i will make the receivers and hopefully people would consider that.
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Post by savage94 on Jul 10, 2009 20:45:51 GMT -5
thanks!
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Post by corporalkitten on Jul 10, 2009 20:51:55 GMT -5
No, thank You for opening up this opportunity for people who cannot make these parts themselves to buy them. I would not even attempt such a thing, so as I have said before, I applaud those who do for their generous work, and if not for others, for their labor of love to be shown to the world.
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Post by Nimlas on Jul 10, 2009 21:19:33 GMT -5
Most airsofters I know wouldn't pay over $250 for a gun, which is why this works for me. Jeez, how many DO you know? I know a whole lot, and to most, $250 is borderline cheap for a quality gun. That said, if I'm forking over 250 bucks, I better get a historically accurate gun. Will most airsofters be interested in this? No, without a proper receiver. It just looks ridiculous. Sorry, that's just the way it is. If there's a good looking receiver out there, then this would be feasible. Vast majority of airsofters do not want a half-assed M1928/M1A1 frankenstein. This poll is proof of that. Hard to beat the old CAW kit. This is NOT a cheap hobby, not when done right.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jul 10, 2009 21:39:22 GMT -5
yeah im confused, out of all the tommy attempts and people saying they want a ribbed barrel and they dont know where to get one. and now no one would buy one. i will make the receivers and hopefully people would consider that. He did say he would make a 1928 receiver. Why do we keep mentioning the CAW kit it is no longer available?
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Post by Nimlas on Jul 10, 2009 22:24:30 GMT -5
yeah im confused, out of all the tommy attempts and people saying they want a ribbed barrel and they dont know where to get one. and now no one would buy one. i will make the receivers and hopefully people would consider that. He did say he would make a 1928 receiver. Why do we keep mentioning the CAW kit it is no longer available? Corporal Kitten said that he would be happy with an M1A1 receiver. I was addressing that. The CAW kit keeps being mentioned because it was the only SUCCESSFUL M1928 kit.
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Jul 10, 2009 22:41:24 GMT -5
Mosquitto Molds M1928 receiver/barrel/sight/sight cover kit & the CAW m1928 wood stock set = correct M1928
Anything else= expensive franken-gun. Which is great if you're into that, I'd rather not take an M1A1 and make it "ribbed for her pleasure".
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Post by savage94 on Jul 11, 2009 5:56:40 GMT -5
well im sure people will see when i build the first one that its not a franken gun
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Post by detasman on Jul 11, 2009 6:25:24 GMT -5
Attention you sticklers: even the MM kit does not result in an 100% accurate M1928. As example I offer that the fire and safety switches (not part of the kit, but nontheless part of the finished product) are not correct for the M1928. I guess you'll have to throw your M1928's away since they're not 100%.
No, wait. That would be dumb. Wouldn't it?
I also think you've got it wrong when you say the majority of airsofters require a historically accurate gun. Perhaps the majority of airsofters who haunt this board do. However, the majority of airsofters, in general don't know or don't care. That's why Cyma can make a historically innacurate M1928 and sell thousands of units.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jul 11, 2009 6:35:40 GMT -5
A majority of people who are interested in a 1928 would not be intrested in a half assed 1928. but it sounds like this fellow intends to produce something akin with what the people interested would like. Good luck sir and I look forward to your progress and pics.
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Post by savage94 on Jul 11, 2009 8:18:33 GMT -5
does anyone have pics of the correct fire and safety switches? i searched threw google and with no luck.
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Post by Nimlas on Jul 11, 2009 10:40:21 GMT -5
Attention you sticklers: even the MM kit does not result in an 100% accurate M1928. As example I offer that the fire and safety switches (not part of the kit, but nontheless part of the finished product) are not correct for the M1928. I guess you'll have to throw your M1928's away since they're not 100%. No, wait. That would be dumb. Wouldn't it? I also think you've got it wrong when you say the majority of airsofters require a historically accurate gun. Perhaps the majority of airsofters who haunt this board do. However, the majority of airsofters, in general don't know or don't care. That's why Cyma can make a historically innacurate M1928 and sell thousands of units. Yeah, and the switches always bothered me. However, that's not exactly "half assed", more like "1/32nd" assed. There's a pretty big difference between incorrect selector switches and an entire receiver, right? I know the majority of airsofters won't care(I probably shouldn't have used that...) but unlike CYMA this kind of kit deal is a much more a niche market. CYMA can afford to produce thousands of Flaggrantly Wrong M1928s and sell them to people who could care less and don't know any better, because they're cheap guns. This kit seems to be marketed at the WWII airsoft crowd. You're not going to hoc an expensive, inaccurate, conversion kit on MOST WWII airsofters. That said, if savage can produce an accurate kit, with barrel(that fixes the evil barrel wobble) and receiver set for sub 300, he could have a winner. Then there's the issue of correct stocks...
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jul 11, 2009 12:57:05 GMT -5
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