ethan
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Post by ethan on Jan 23, 2010 17:59:15 GMT -5
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Post by Fusilier on Jan 23, 2010 18:36:39 GMT -5
WOW!!
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Jan 23, 2010 19:45:25 GMT -5
That's a great addition to anyones arsenal and an excellent price. If I didn't already have the VFC I'd be all over this one
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Post by Fusilier on Jan 24, 2010 1:34:06 GMT -5
Any reviews of it anywhere?
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elder90
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Post by elder90 on Jan 24, 2010 2:17:01 GMT -5
oh my god Im going to dump ever cent i have into this but i just bought a M16 w/ M203 and I had been saving for that for a long time.....humm....looks like i have to get a job now that im 15 years old. has matrix made any other guns and if they have are they good guns
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chadwick
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Post by chadwick on Jan 24, 2010 22:54:11 GMT -5
I just bought one. now to wait untill march
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Post by Fusilier on Jan 24, 2010 23:09:54 GMT -5
Jeez,everybody and their brother is going to have one of these! lol
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Sgt_Tom
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jan 24, 2010 23:17:43 GMT -5
Yea, a whole squad of B.A.Rs! I won't mind too much though lol
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Post by flectarn on Jan 24, 2010 23:29:47 GMT -5
oh my god Im going to dump ever cent i have into this but i just bought a M16 w/ M203 and I had been saving for that for a long time.....humm....looks like i have to get a job now that im 15 years old. has matrix made any other guns and if they have are they good guns "Matrix" is Evike's "brand" of guns. They just take clones and call them their own. Thus "matrix" guns have different qualities.
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Post by Fusilier on Jan 24, 2010 23:43:51 GMT -5
Yea, a whole squad of B.A.Rs! I won't mind too much though lol >> Yeah well,the reality is a full squad should have only ONE.
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CptJericho
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Post by CptJericho on Jan 24, 2010 23:54:36 GMT -5
Yea, a whole squad of B.A.Rs! I won't mind too much though lol >> Yeah well,the reality is a full squad should have only ONE. Same with the thompson, at least this will be heavier
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2nd Bat
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jan 25, 2010 13:48:53 GMT -5
An Infantry squad was actually authorized two BARs (One for each fire team). In the case of a Ranger unit they were also authorized two BARs and their squads were only six guys.
Though unrealistic it's going to be way better seeing way too many of these and Thompsons then looking at burlap wrapped AKs and M16s so I'm not going to whine at all about it. We should be so lucky that the time WILL come when we are able to restrict who has what!
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Post by collisi0n on Jan 27, 2010 15:57:00 GMT -5
I was looking at some pictures of SHOT show and it looks like Echo1 is releasing one too
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Post by toboggan on Jan 27, 2010 17:11:13 GMT -5
Wow, idk if i'd rather wait for the echo1, or pre order this Matrix brand...
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Post by sarge12 on Jan 27, 2010 17:34:12 GMT -5
i just ordered it, talked to the evike man. he said it was the same quality as VFC
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Post by Fusilier on Jan 27, 2010 17:34:30 GMT -5
Sheesh,first 2 or 3 different PPSH's now 2 diff BAR's?? GARANDS!! We need GARANDS!!
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Post by Fusilier on Jan 27, 2010 17:35:17 GMT -5
But will Matrix be selling spare mags???
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Post by sarge12 on Jan 27, 2010 17:37:15 GMT -5
it comes with 190 hi-cap and standard mag, he said VFC mags would work just fine.
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Sgt_Tom
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jan 27, 2010 17:52:16 GMT -5
The echo1 and matrix brand might be the same thing with different brand names slapped on. i just ordered it, talked to the evike man. he said it was the same quality as VFC I think most companies would say their guns are great quality if you ask them even if they aren't so great. Probably will be on par with AGM, CYMA type guns. The thing is VFC B.A.R mags are expensive. Hopefully they will make there own, especially some low caps.
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Post by collisi0n on Jan 27, 2010 23:59:34 GMT -5
Echo1 usually just replaces one or two things internally and then sells it as their own, like I think they take the JG M4 and upgrade the spring guide and spring and market it as Echo1.
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2nd Bat
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jan 28, 2010 1:47:37 GMT -5
The VFC Bar appears to use M16 internal mags placed in an appropriate BAR magazine shell. I am delighted to see they (Matrix) will be offering a low cap as well as a high cap. I suspect they will be available at a typically clone level, lower price.
The VFC BAR is one of the most impressive airsoft guns I've ever seen and felt (Extremely well done) and if this gun is even half as good (for one third the money) it will be a tremedous bargain. I can't wait. I wouldn't be surprised if like many clone rifles it ends up a harder shooter right out the box than the gun it clones.
I hope it stays under 400 FPS however so it meets most fields max limit for fully auto weapons.
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maxatax
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Post by maxatax on Feb 10, 2010 16:03:45 GMT -5
I think the Echo 1 is the same as "the matrix" BAR. From what I've heard Matrix is just a rebrand of evike. Because you always see buy matrix bbs, there the best ever; on evike.com. Is it good quality probaly i mean usaually you get your moneys worth. On Evike the FPS says 270-350.
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Post by bizcuits on Feb 10, 2010 17:47:40 GMT -5
it comes with 190 hi-cap and standard mag, he said VFC mags would work just fine. Good luck finding VFC magazines. The few of us VFC owners have already cleaned out all the vendors.
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maxatax
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Post by maxatax on Feb 10, 2010 18:03:51 GMT -5
I bet "matrix" will make there own mags. Did anyone else notice it said limited edition BAR.
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Post by homeslice28 on Feb 10, 2010 23:46:21 GMT -5
Some will eventually make a modified clip from an m16 or something or......we can just wait till they make their own clips
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Post by sarge12 on Feb 14, 2010 23:58:08 GMT -5
Gawd! march 10th hurry up!!
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2nd Bat
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 15, 2010 1:06:58 GMT -5
I have a couple ordered as it reflects such an incredible value but I will be shocked if in fact they ship on the 10th. China is in the midst of their New Year and with all things airsoft delays on new releases is sort of a tradition. 350 FPS would be perfect. If it truly is a VFC clone swapping out the spring (if needed) will be a snap.
I must say I am anxious for this new rifle.
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Post by Guinness on Feb 15, 2010 3:05:21 GMT -5
Um...don't mind me, I'm just the cleaning staff, but I noticed that we have like 3 separate topics devoted to the upcoming ACM B.A.R.- This particular thread is under the 'review' section and as the product has yet to be released, that seems a bit cart-before-the-horse and all.... I'll be closing this thread because the entire point of having an entry in said review section is so you can post purty pictures and YOUR review of the weapon....
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