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Post by guitarmaster on Dec 6, 2006 22:02:04 GMT -5
WHo was the first of the allies to get back Paris? ?
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Post by spitfire740 on Dec 7, 2006 17:09:11 GMT -5
I believe it was the french resistance. I'm not sure on that though.
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Post by 2ndranger on Dec 7, 2006 17:27:59 GMT -5
I though the US, resistance and some british, i could be wrong.
Schtuze
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Post by Capt. Zak on Dec 7, 2006 18:38:39 GMT -5
Who ever it was should have kept it! Why give it back to those spineless, cheese eating, surrender monkeys!
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Post by guitarmaster on Dec 7, 2006 18:56:41 GMT -5
WEll it was LaCerc of like teh 2d French Div
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Post by 101steasykid on Dec 7, 2006 19:12:28 GMT -5
i heard that theamericans took it, and he got the credit. The allies just were pushing for germany.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2006 19:15:05 GMT -5
It may have been like the americans were at the gate and they were like, "get the french up here! so they can have there city back!"
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Dec 7, 2006 20:08:59 GMT -5
There was a small patrol of US troops that were in Paris at the French troops entered another part of Paris.....and the french resistence was in Paris the whole time - they never left....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2006 23:37:09 GMT -5
wasnt degaull or however you spell it, one of the first? i would think political since i doubt he beat the americans and british there.....
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Post by Guinness on Dec 8, 2006 0:21:30 GMT -5
wasnt degaull or however you spell it, one of the first? i would think political since i doubt he beat the americans and british there..... ..Yikes There is so much wrong with that, that I can't even tell you how much is wrong with that........ For starters, it's Charles de Gaulle[/b] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle -Interesting stuff in there Who, being FRENCH and all, should have already been in La France, but was however one of the first to enter Paris with the Allied Liberators- "He flew into France from the French colony of Algeria a few hours before the liberation of Paris, and drove near the front of the liberating forces into the city alongside Allied officials""The resistance and the advancing Americans wiped out the few remaining collaborationist and German pockets by August 25. Paris was free." yeah- it's too bad there isn't some place a person could go to find facts and information you know? I mean if only there was a place......someone could go......to...research........ Oh wait! what about teh Interwebs!!! This whole site is about, and promotes research. Here is another interesting fun fact- "Gaul" Is a term to describe the peoples that settled most of what we now call 'France'- So...de Gaulle means 'Of Gaul' or, of France. Slainte! -G
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2006 1:05:51 GMT -5
it was my mistake and i should have done a bit more research on it! so foolish of me. sorry guys!
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Post by Guinness on Dec 8, 2006 3:50:08 GMT -5
No worries DBB ;D But now you have to do a Free French impression to make atonement -G
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 8, 2006 13:27:44 GMT -5
It is in fact true that the US was literally at the gates with patrols inside the city. High command ordered a hault and ordered the French up to officially liberate their own city. A near riot had broken out from the French resistance who aggressively attacked the Germans as they withdrew. Lt. Col Stevens of the SHAEF photographic division and his camera crews were among the very first and filmed much of the early liberation as well as the parade with both the French 2nd Armored and the US 28th Inf division that literally marched through Paris and went directly to the front lines.
According to my father (who was there) The US Army tipped over a British Bailey Bridge and used it as a reviewing stand where General Bradley, Charles De Gaulle and other dignitaries were on hand. Not too many hours before, the German General in charge turned over the city and snipers were still active in the area. The German general as you may know was ordered by Hitler to destroy the city but refused the order. (read the book Is Paris Burning?") My father said it was the most wonderful day of his life up to that time. The city was as exhuberant as it could be and the people were amazingly appreciative. He also said De Gaulle was completely and totally blitzed, eyes totally glazed over, almost unable to stand through the parade. Couldn't even speak without slurring every word. He said it was hillareous. He didn't like De Gaulle. (did anyone?)
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Dec 8, 2006 13:39:34 GMT -5
Ummmm....did my post get deleted or did I forget to post it?
sorry if that sounds silly, but I could've sworn I posted something here about wikipedia.......
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Post by Guinness on Dec 8, 2006 16:19:53 GMT -5
Ummmm....did my post get deleted or did I forget to post it? sorry if that sounds silly, but I could've sworn I posted something here about wikipedia....... Not sure- However it is a well known fact that Wikipedia articles have been known to sometimes contain inaccurate information...... ....Which makes that medium pretty much exactly like Text Books, The History Channel, Talking to your friends, and any other form of human communication- No one person is always 100% right about anything- information is subjective, not objective. Adding a "but Wikipedia am teh suxxors" comment to a thread that was already bereft of the least bit of research effort doesn't assist or enlighten anyone. Besides, it's freakin Chas. de Gaulle for crissakes- even if half of the info is wrong, like Capt. Zak says, who cares anyway. But here is the real point of the thread (and site), and a challenge for you: Pull up the Wikipedia article on 'Ol Chuck the Frenchie in one page, and any other bit of info you can find on him in another- compare and contrast, and come back and tell us where the Wiki gets it wrong- -G
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Dec 8, 2006 20:31:59 GMT -5
Check unser the 'external links' section....as of 8:29pm on 12/8/06 one of them is listed as 'Great Farbs of the World".........
There is also incorrect information on the 5th Ranger Bn wiki page it claims that the 5th was in the bulge and hurtgen forrest and they were not in either........
My only point with teh other post was to cross referrence our sources to verify things.....and that wikipedia is just begging to have misinformation posted on its pages......
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Post by Guinness on Dec 8, 2006 21:17:12 GMT -5
Well done- Then you and I agree- "Don't believe everything you read" "Consult Multiple Sources" That's research -G
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2006 23:17:16 GMT -5
No worries DBB ;D But now you have to do a Free French impression to make atonement your right! new mp40, here i come! -G
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Post by Gordak on Dec 9, 2006 19:43:47 GMT -5
I met an mp who was in the city before the main french elements arrived, turns out his unit records pertaining to the liberation of paris were deleted! no doubt to lessen our confusion that it was only the French that liberated the city.
He showed me photo of him all over the city and yet the US Government archives deny it :S -Gordak
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2006 10:39:31 GMT -5
its all politics.....
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Post by kellhound on Jan 1, 2007 20:04:36 GMT -5
Don't know who was really first, but the first "french" unit to enter Paris was comprised entirely of Spanish republicans exiled after Spanish Civil War. "La Nueve", ninth company of LeClerc's division. ;D
And we have a group here that reenacts that unit.
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