Totez
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Post by Totez on Jun 16, 2010 22:53:56 GMT -5
Just posting up a feeler, while granted it has nothing to do with WWII, I figure I should throw up a post for my buddies on WWIIAA. Anyone here interested in Vietnam Airsoft? A lot of groups are surging up in my local area and I figured I would set up a forum similar to WWIIAA for Vietnam. vietnamaa.proboards.comIf this sparks anyone's fancy just head on over to that site and join up!
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 16, 2010 22:56:22 GMT -5
Theres an event this coming weekend in CT. Too rich for my blood being unemployed,at $110!
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 16, 2010 22:57:02 GMT -5
Great idea! I THINK there is a forum for that,but what you did is nice..
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Post by Totez on Jun 16, 2010 23:15:01 GMT -5
There is another forum for Vietnam Airsoft (aptly named vietnamairsoft.com) which I hope to work with to further the spread of VN airsofting. Their set up is different from the way I would like to run things and how WWIIAA runs things however in that they seem more geared toward information and operations than an even balance between that and unit listing/recruitment.
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Post by shadycadence on Jun 17, 2010 6:33:21 GMT -5
It's a great site, I'm there often!(as are many members from here) TONS of info there.
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Post by kken on Jun 17, 2010 7:21:06 GMT -5
good luck in your endeavor, don't see the point in recreating the wheel however. VNAS is not more geared to operations, there just happen to be a lot posted there about them. i don't really see any difference between VNAS and how this board runs.
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Post by Totez on Jun 17, 2010 9:26:22 GMT -5
I didn't make this site to reinvent the wheel, but more or less add another wheel. Two heads are better than one, two wheels are better than one (Sorry any Unicyclists) and two sites can't hurt. It's just another site for people to get information, list their unit, list their events and whatever else suits their fancy.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 17, 2010 15:35:02 GMT -5
Other sites to visit are: z6.invisionfree.com/vietnamairsoft/index.php? or www.thewardept.org or you can visit Historicalmilsim.com All focus on Vietnam airsofting. The point is one can only see value in going to so many places. Why not simply join in at one and make your contributions and voice your suggestions. I'm sure they would happily accept the additional input. If what you're hoping to create is a regional site top promote and discuss things relative to folks in your immediate area well then that probably makes a lot of sense. Incidently I'm flying out from Seattle to go to the CT event and I can't wait.
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Post by mccallion on Jun 17, 2010 17:59:01 GMT -5
I love vn airsoft i got many impression, my primary is a rto 1st air cav impression I am going to lc2 and cant wait!
McCallion
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 17, 2010 18:33:08 GMT -5
See you there. If anyone wants to save a little off the enrollment I think they are still accepting folks for the VC NVA side? I seem to remember that the costs varied depnding on the role you hoped to fill with the most expensive being the LRP slots.
For VC and NVA they have full loaner impressions as well. It makes it an affordable way to attend and in my opinion the OPFOR is typically the most fun. I'm anxious to pull ambushes, raids and work with the hunter tracker teams looking for the LRRPs.
If they can't hide they gotta run!!!!!!
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Post by Adler69 on Jun 17, 2010 20:26:10 GMT -5
I have way to many Vietnam Impressions starting with my Dien Bien Phu imp all the way to my newest of an F-4 Phantom II pilot.
Tomorrow i will be leaving for the local Airshow to set up our annual Vietnam War display.
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Post by kken on Jun 18, 2010 7:33:49 GMT -5
I didn't make this site to reinvent the wheel, but more or less add another wheel. Two heads are better than one, two wheels are better than one (Sorry any Unicyclists) and two sites can't hurt. It's just another site for people to get information, list their unit, list their events and whatever else suits their fancy. problem with this is that there isn't a big enough VN community to warrant fractured sites. if that's the case, why not build more ww2 airsoft forums? several other people i know have tried to build their own separate vietnam forums, and they have all ended up ghost towns. i know, i was a member on them... here's a few that started and just died, there were many more that aren't around anymore and their domains have expired: www.freewebs.com/afvn/apps/forums/http://twenty5th_airsoft.webs.com/apps/forums/ incountry.ca/this is not about VNAS is uber alles screw all other forums. it's about keeping a small community together to grow. if you think VNAS could use some more sub forums for like units and what not, suggest it to Alphawolf, he is very open to ideas. i personally have no official affiliation with it, i just accept that it is the defacto place to go to talk namsoft with others interested in it. and quite honestly, it has captured the interests of collectors, blank fire reenactors, namsofters around the world and more importantly actual vietnam vets who gather there and share valuable information and ideas. so why start something new? i don't get it.
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Post by shadycadence on Jun 19, 2010 8:22:11 GMT -5
kken, I think he's going after something more local to him. Kind of like the state forums that exist. VNAS is worldwide, that's one of the things that makes it a great site, but it also makes it a really big pond. I see nothing wrong with trying to set up a smaller pond, the trick (as you said) is to keep it stocked. If he can get enough locals to make it fly, more power to him.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 29, 2010 23:41:33 GMT -5
I just returned from Liberty Canyon and it was great seeing so many familiar faces from this forum. Nimlas, McCallion, Piper Huntley and many more. Because of flight delays and cancellation it took me 28 hours to get home but it was well worth it. Flying cross country in the summer can be a bitch.
Great event. Looking forward to Silent Sunset next month in Virginia. (Can you say hot?)
Nam soft definitely works well with airsoft.
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Post by gunner on Jun 30, 2010 0:30:13 GMT -5
heck yeah, more 'nam sites can only help PROMOTE namsofting!!! just like more WW2 will do the same!!! my group has a site, it's incorporating not only WW2 Marine Raiders/Amphib Recon/ParaMarines but also our 'Nam side also. Our site is geared for locals, but heck, anyone is invited to log on!!! I posted it here, on this site, but it's wcoastraiders.webs.com. All I can say Jager is, GO FOR IT!
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Post by gunner on Jun 30, 2010 0:39:59 GMT -5
Jager, I just signed up. Adler, get yer butt over there!!! LOL
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Post by mccallion on Jun 30, 2010 14:49:20 GMT -5
wow that sucks 2nd bat but at least you did make it home in one pieace it was very nice to see a lot of old friends and by far the best airsoft/reenactment i have ever been to ! Mccallion
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 30, 2010 18:01:34 GMT -5
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jun 30, 2010 19:45:05 GMT -5
Why?
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Post by gunner on Jun 30, 2010 20:17:32 GMT -5
Awesome 2ndBat!! Sorry to hear about the delays!!! Man, wish I could fly all over the place just to do events!! LOL Okay, so, back to Jagers website, so far two of my guys and myself have registered. It looks like he's started a pretty good site.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 30, 2010 23:19:15 GMT -5
Charlie November The SEAL team that was enrolled did all sorts of nutty things during the event. They did a hydraphonic recon of the swamp and determined that the bottom was too muddy to cross. They arrived at this only once chest deep in it!
PT was not officially part of this event. It was fun watching them run around with the boat over their head however. Once on the field during missions they were actually quite good.
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Post by kken on Jul 1, 2010 7:35:54 GMT -5
heck yeah, more 'nam sites can only help PROMOTE namsofting!!! not really. all it does is create different pockets of like minded individuals who might or might not know about others outside their immediate region. WW2 events like brecourt manor or any of the war dept events would not have the attendance they do if there wasn't a central community location like ww2airsoft. more websites create more fractured communities which leads to guys getting discouraged because they don't think there are many like them out there, thus they quit and sell their stuff. i have seen it time and time again. i'm all for general airsoft regional communities, but all my VA guys, i send to VNAS to help build up the overall namsoft community. we showed up to LIBC II at least 15 strong which helps the overall namsoft community when other events outside our region are that well attended like LIBC II was. the flipside is i know there was a kick ass group of namsofters in socal about 7 strong back in the mid-2000s... legit ass kits all around. but because there was no central namsoft community after incountry.ca died, they all got discouraged and quit and sold their stuff. really too bad.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jul 1, 2010 10:37:16 GMT -5
However regional sites help promote it in that region so if you don't have the dough to travel like lots of people now a days it helps get people connected locally. I see the value of both.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jul 1, 2010 13:00:27 GMT -5
I agree with Kken on this one. Without a willingness or ability to travel either by air or road trip at this stage in our growth period events simply don't seem to happen. Without the 15 folks from Virginia motoring up to Liberty Canyon it wouldn't have been much of an event. Likewise without folks getting in their cars or hoppoing on a plane to go to Virginia for SSII in July it won't have the turnout needed to be a true "Event" per se. It's frsurtating that guys will spend $thousands on gear and uniforms but can't "afford" to attend events.
Chairsofters really. Nothing wrong with this of course but it does make you wonder. A central clearing house site like WW2 airsoft and Vietnamairsoft are really essential for all enthusiasts in the genre to be able to go to. Hats off to Gordak and Hellmutt at Battlesim for providing it.
There is too much of an "If it's not my event I don't want to attend" mentality, hence few events end up being pulled off and folks get discouraged.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2010 14:15:13 GMT -5
its a tough reality to deal with, one in which were experiencing here in SOCAL. While I know we [The REGIMENT] were very Nam motivated in years past, our focus has shifted to WWII .
I LOVE the RECONDO events and have very positive memories of the program, its just been tough to juggle all my interest as well as the hammering we get down here from comic con [seems unrelated, but MOST of the NAM REGIMENT guys work at Sideshow and have huge responsibilities at the show which lasts over a week and is two weeks before the RECONDO event, stacked on top of the ww2 event were hosting which was the only date we could get]
anyway my macro point was in order to service the wwII event were hosting I have found I need to troll 4-5 different forum boards to get attendee's locked in and even then have an email list to get the rest, its a bit frustrating. especially when folks don't really read the forums [or maybe they just hare us I reckon thats possible >shrug].
One board woudl be great to focus the efforts, but even that seems strained.
As an example I have been shelling this board with Southern California wwII events on private land developed for wwII events even with little or no impact, and then out of the blue people start posting that they wish there were socal wwII events...........when the posts with invites are in two places on the board already.......
It shows that you pretty much need to lead the horse to the water, put its head in said water and massage its throat so the water gets to the stomach LOl
anyway were pleased to say that on paper we are closing in on 40 participants for our next event which is huge for SOCAL despite being dwarfed By jump to destiny in WA.
TG
THE REGIMENT.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jul 1, 2010 14:36:02 GMT -5
Everyone can't afford to travel John it is just a fact of the times right now. Most of my WW2 games bring 40 or more people most local some out of staters. While there is immesnse value in a national collective website it is easy to get your game lost in that big of a website. I missed the NH game because something came up with the family I needed to spend 500.00 the week before the game and needed to be with my family. SS3 is similar I want to go but my family comes first so I can't go to that one. I really wish I could trust me. In August there is a smaller nam game run by a teammate in Athens GA I am going to that one and supporting that. I know a few of the locals will too. they know about the game because of our local website and forums not because of the vietnam forums. both can be useful.
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Post by shadycadence on Jul 1, 2010 18:20:33 GMT -5
Lt. Bruce Mayhugh (actual VN vet) and myself. This was at the Best of the Worst 3, an VN "themed" game in Illinois last weekend. They had 37 players pre-registered. The head count on game day had 38 VC/NVA, and 100 US players. I'll bet there wasn't more than 10 players that frequent the VNAS boards, but their local forum is quite substantial. Granted, the majority of walk-ons didn't put too much effort into a period kit, but then again if period kit had been a requirement and not strongly suggested I doubt the turnout would have been anything near that. I wrote a 'period kit required' game up here in Minnesota and had one registered player. Our forum is fairly large, but the local players into Namsoft can be counted on one hand if I include myself. So could I fly a VN forum here? No way, it would be a waste. I'm better off referring guys to VNAS. But if he's got 20 or more local players into it, a local board makes sense. It's easier to draw in new players in a small forum. National boards can be intimidating to many, and I believe there is room for both. Nothing will replace this board or VNAS, but I doubt strongly that smaller boards will do any harm to the growth of period airsoft in general. Ostfrontairsoft comes to mind...
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Post by kken on Jul 5, 2010 8:11:45 GMT -5
i'm all for a ww2 or vietnam subforum on a regional community. those seem to have the greatest impact outside a large national forum. but i just don't see the point of a subject-specific regional forum. 3 weeks in and only 3 members or so on the original poster's forum? that if anything proves my point. PA is very close to VA but like tom has said, you can only juggle so many things at once. there already is a vietnam section on Virginia Airsoft's forum. and they're all members on VNAS as it is... why splinter things and join yet another forum? when it comes to events, i'm not necessarily about numbers. Masher 2 proved you can have a kick ass time with small numbers. i would rather take 10 quality guys who are gonna get into it and not be douchbags than 100 guys, half of who only have the mindset to "win" and will be a-holes on the field. what i'll also say is that you need to grow it small locally. this may seem contrary to what i just said about regional forums but my point is you need to grow it small within an existing community. 3 yrs ago, it was like me and 2 other guys into vietnam airsoft. everyone else thought we were just kooky reenactors. now, we're probably 40 strong and still growing... but even then, i don't want to dilute that and break off and start a vietnam-specific regional forum. maybe when you get to a sizeable amount of players it'd be worth it... but not before then. and i will also admit, i am not the avg airsoft player. i LOVE to travel for events. for me, i got into airsoft because i loved seeing new fields, meeting other people who also shared my love for airsoft, and seeing how other people ran their events. i think traveling to other events also adds some excitement to a community... it's something people look forward to and get really excited about and buy a ton of gear for and try and get their friends into going to. it's a level that can generate so much more excitement for a community that your local game, especially if that travel game really is an experience something more than "airsoft time." to be honest, if it weren't for the CT games within reach, i don't think the VA scene would have grown as much as it did the last 3 years. p.s. tom, i was talking about dial tone and those guys... i know the regiment at least still owns their nam gear.
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Post by hburn on Jul 5, 2010 22:41:53 GMT -5
Kind of off topic but is anyone else having trouble getting on VNAS. I have been having computer problems recently so it may be just me.
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Post by Adler69 on Jul 5, 2010 23:24:53 GMT -5
I just checked , it's not working for me either all i get is this
General Error SQL ERROR [ mysql4 ]
Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (111) [2002]
An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists.
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