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Post by kalbs on Jan 8, 2011 11:00:33 GMT -5
Looks like a WE M-14 Conversion into an M1 Carbine will be released by RA-Tech. The RIS needs to go en.ratech.com.tw/Watch about 7.10 into the video for more info although be warned, their Chinglish is horrible
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jan 8, 2011 12:09:07 GMT -5
Odd. The carbine doesn't really look like an M14 especially in the mag area. Since it is a conversion for a gas gun then you can't really change over to carbine size mags I don't think...Just curious why they didn't instead produce a Garand conversion instead. That would have made more sense to me. What do you say Kalbs?
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Post by 1984 on Jan 8, 2011 13:58:26 GMT -5
To me it looks like they plan on releasing a custom magazine for it since the magwell looks too small for an M14 mag.
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Post by jimmiroquai on Jan 8, 2011 17:41:52 GMT -5
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Post by kalbs on Jan 8, 2011 19:24:14 GMT -5
The reciever looks odd and nothing like an M1 or the 10/22 for that matter. Your understanding of Chinglish is better than mine Jim. If it's a KJW then the parts will be much better that Marushin but you will end up using a small banana mag.
Honestly, I have as much interest in this conversion as I do with Justin Beiber's singing
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jan 8, 2011 20:10:34 GMT -5
Honestly, I have as much interest in this conversion as I do with Justin Beiber's singing The highest insult ;D In my opinion it doesn't look half bad. Maybe with some modifying of the receiver it would look more acceptable.
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Post by morganm on Jan 8, 2011 22:47:56 GMT -5
We need an electric M1 Carbine, electric M1 Garand that loads from the top but doesn't fly out when the mags empty, a non shell ejecting springer Kar98k, a $150 Springfield and a mosin nagant that is not 11 times as expensive as a real one. And just to throw it in a aeg or gas G43 or Tokarev SVT-40
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jan 8, 2011 23:16:41 GMT -5
Top loading Garand is too complex, just go for one based off an M14, loading from the bottom. Same idea for the Kar98.
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Post by morganm on Jan 9, 2011 8:59:24 GMT -5
It can be done. But I guess you are right
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Post by jimmiroquai on Jan 9, 2011 9:09:16 GMT -5
It can be done. But I guess you are right Show us how and we'll all bow to you. BTT: It's too bad RA-tech didn't think to include a more accurate looking receiver for their custom kit.
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Post by morganm on Jan 9, 2011 12:57:11 GMT -5
A block (rectangular prism) like magazine is inserted into an open bolt. You close the bolt. Expend all BBs in the magazine, and press and hold a barely visible magazine catch hidden on the trigger housing or something like that, open the bolt, lock it back, press the mag catch and with your free hand put your thumb and index finger in grooves on the bag and front of the magazine. repeat loading precedure. I dont have a working computer I'm using an IPod so I'd like to draw blueprints but doing so wouldn't be possible, since I can't upload images onto an iPod without a computer. The only problem I see is the gear box. It probobly might be an impossible barrier but a new type of gearbox that goes into the stock might work. Most likely it will be on the bottom like an M14, but remember doing a direct M14 conversion would result in an undersized garand, so manufacture would still be easy, china just upsizes it's molds and there you have it M1 Garand! Plus some other additions to it.
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Post by jimmiroquai on Jan 11, 2011 0:09:34 GMT -5
The only problem I see is the gear box. It probobly might be an impossible barrier There you go. The reason we're very skeptical is that this has been discussed for years and no one has come up with a practical solution. Even a realistic gearbox design for a top loading garand has never surfaced. M14 conversion, bottom loading is just so much more practical than a top loading garand AEG. Top loading gas garand maybe, but AEG, no. Anyway, this is all off topic. BTT: Another touchy subject is the AEG M1 carbine. So far, the onle gearbox that fits is an AEP gearbox or a extensively customized gearbox like the one in the japanese conversion. This conversion kit for the KJW ruger10/22 (itself a reliable gas gun based on the MGC 10/22) is a happy addition to the huge M1 carbine void. Sure it doesn't look exactly right, but i'm sure the customizers over here can do something about that.
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Post by morganm on Jan 18, 2011 23:49:59 GMT -5
Sorry for the late response, I forgot about this thread. They can always release a new, smaller gearbox that is L-shaped. The short part of the L goes in the front of the reciever. This contains the actual piston. The spring and motor are in the long part of the L, which extends along the bottom of the reciever. A channel/tube connects the two, which alllows the air pressure from the motor to channel to the piston. The magazine, is very small, and is placed far down into the reciever and placed under the small part of the L, like a P90 magazine and the rails overtop of it. The non adjustable Hop Up (ill figure that out sometime later) is right above the feed lips of the magazine. The BBs are pushed into the hop up and then into the chamber and can then be fired. This sounds very complicated, but it's really not to bad, it only sounds complicated. When my computer is fixed (I'm using a mobile device w/o a camera) I'll upload some pictures of drawings I'll make. A simpler way to do it, is remember people, an M14 reciever is shorter than a garand reciever, so there will be more space to use.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jan 20, 2011 1:06:22 GMT -5
Wow sounds so simple. And you haven't taken it on and produced it yet...Why? A few hours tinkering in the garage a few dollars invested in materials and you're there right?
Knock yourself out son and by all means let us know how it goes. Pictures and prototypes much appreciated.
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Post by morganm on Jan 20, 2011 17:16:10 GMT -5
I don't know airsoft technical terms very well, so I feel like I have to explain the words I'm using for the part, making it sound extremely complicated. It is complex, but not impossible. I also have no equipment available for producing one. I can make a blue print, and that's about it.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jan 22, 2011 3:08:26 GMT -5
Ideas are like elbows,,,, everyone has a couple of them. Actions son actions. Show us what you've done...not what you "just know" would be really easy. Spend some time on some of the old threads and you'll see a whole bunch of ambitious plans, ideas and projects most of which never end up as functional skirmishable airsoft rifles. Those that do are wonderful things to behold and inspirational, Casual ideas and the suggestion that things are easy is counter productive and pointless in my opinion.
Schmitty on this board was my initial inspiration and a master creator and replica maker beyond compare. He never shared anything here until it was actually finished because he knew going in that something he thought would be easy almost never was and that most of his creations were months and even over a year in progress.
There are now a half dozen or more really creative and skilled do it yourselfers on this site who do wonderful work and they will all be the first to tell you that things aren't "easy." worthwhile things seldom are.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jan 22, 2011 3:29:26 GMT -5
Good ideas followed by good intentions followed by some action, blood and tears...usually ends up with the person saying, "applesauce ! that didn't work." Then they let it sit for awhile and think creativly about how to take a different approach to the problem...over and over again...eventually if you are lucky you come out the other end with something worth talking about...not always does Alice find her way out of the rabbit hole..sometimes that bitch the Queen does chop off her head...live..learn..lol...crap it's late...
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