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Post by warbirdguy1 on Feb 27, 2013 19:55:48 GMT -5
I could really use some help! I may be getting a Marushin 6mm M1 Garand for a fair price. How do they perform? What kinds of preventative maintenance can I do to make this rifle last longer? Any information will be greatly appreciated!
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 27, 2013 20:15:50 GMT -5
Unless you are buying it a price you'd be happy paying for a non functioning prop you are paying too much. Even when functioning flawlessly they are not skirmishable due to performance issues. (consistency and power of the shots themselves, the eight round clip, likihood in a skirmish you'll lose the clip(s) and difficulty reloading presents. (much harder and slower than a real Garand). that's all assuming its actually working as it should. At best a very temporary condition. It's not a case of IF it will jam, break or fail but a question of how quickly. In spite of these warnings if you decide to proceed locate every screw or bolt (no matter how tiny or how well hidden and apply loctite. Inspect and redo about every 200 rounds (if you make it that far). Keep the gun olied with pure silicon oil clean it thoroughly after every days use and say a prayer dily to the irsoft Gods to keep it working. Those are my recommendations. It is a wonderful replica and a fun plinker for the back yard (sorta?). I have little good to say about them. I bought two of them new and fool that I am one used. I followed every thread and advice article and tried everything. All three ended up as props as they ate their young within 500 to 1200 rounds.
Good luck!
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Post by warbirdguy1 on Feb 28, 2013 20:56:51 GMT -5
What broke exactly? I plan on using duster gas. Also, it is a 2011 production if that means anything.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Feb 28, 2013 21:29:20 GMT -5
It will still break, the bolt is made out of pot metal. Even with duster gas the rifle will only shoot maybe 2,000 rounds if your lucky. I used duster gas with my marushin m1 carbine, and I fired off about 3 1/2 bags of 500s (so around 1,500 rounds) by the time it broke.
I actually didn't believe what people said about them at first, because I rarely shot mine unless I was at a battle. So mine lasted me around a year and believe it or not, it was my only airsoft rifle. But like I said before, it lasted that long because I hardly used it.
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Post by brownien on Feb 28, 2013 22:55:27 GMT -5
I wonder how much it would take to have some of the weakest parts in the Marushin Garand made out of steel. I'm sure a machine shop would have the tools and know-how to do it but it would cost you a pretty penny! (plus a steel bolt would add to the imitated recoil! ;D)
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 1, 2013 0:39:21 GMT -5
No one wanted the GBB Garand with the cool ejecting clip and wonderful recoil action to work and be functional more than me but wanting and having are two very different things. There is no one thing that is problematic with this product. The list is myriad. Addressing one things leaves many many more. The part 45 charging handle is legendarily bad but it is simply the first of many things that ultimately and very quickly fail on these guns.
With the up coming AEG Garands you now have choices so don't just step away from this gun but RUN AWAY from this gun. Its a nice static prop but nothing more. If you buy it, buy it with that in mind.
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Post by warbirdguy1 on Mar 1, 2013 14:16:18 GMT -5
How may years has the 6mm version existed?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 1, 2013 15:09:56 GMT -5
It is quite obvious from your posts that you really want to buy one of these guns and are hoping upon hope that somehow yours will not be the disappointment most of these have been. The 6mm is a fairly new adaptation to this model having come out only about eight months ago. There is nothing inherent about going to 6mm that will remedy the issues primary issues with this gun. The action, although very authentic, is complex and puts a lot of stress on the components all the screws, nuts and threading that are required work their way loose in short order and unless they have switched to a steel charging handle it will still break fairly quickly (especially if you use green gas which is the only way to get the power up to a sufficient FPS to even come close to AEGs). The 280 FPS with duster gas is worse than most cheap springers! The 8 rounds in a pop out clip means you can't really skirmish with it unless you're indoors competing with opponents armed with Dboys KAr 98's with ejecting shells. In that case, rubber knife kills will be the biggest casualty producers. The internal gas reservoir with get you about 50 shots (six clips) before needing to be refilled and your last clip will have the BBs barely rolling out of the barrel.
In posting these comments please understand I have no agenda but to save you some money and a whole lot of grief. This was a product conceived in brilliance but executed in discrace. To their credit even the retailers selling them post veiled warnings about it's poor performance saying things like. " For the collector, Excellent display piece, Great for Plinking, "
Good luck with what you decide but i suspect you have your heart set on getting one and when both the rifle and your heart are broken don't say you weren't forewarned! One of the truly great qualities of the real M1 Garand was its reliability and dependability. The opposite would have to be used to describe the Marushin M1 GBB rifles.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Mar 2, 2013 11:57:08 GMT -5
I don't know of a single person whose M1 Garand lasted more than 500 rounds... Actually a friend of mine who owns an airsoft shop went through ~30 rounds and his broke! My M1 carbine wasn't much different. They are some seriously crappy airsoft guns, I'd prefer using a walmart spring pistol. The list goes on and on of all the things wrong with it. While I used my Marushin M1 carbine in a skirmish, I ended up using my SPRING pistol more than my rifle! I can't imagine what it would be like with the M1 Garand's eight round clip.
My advice, is to buy one of the M14/M1 conversions... I bought one right after my Marushin carbine broke (I really didn't want a Thompson) and the M1 AEG's are very reliable and after I fixed up the one I bought, I've used it in tons of Vietnam and WWII airsoft battles without any problems.
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Post by roma on Mar 2, 2013 13:12:09 GMT -5
I don't know of a single person whose M1 Garand lasted more than 500 rounds... Actually a friend of mine who owns an airsoft shop went through ~30 rounds and his broke! My M1 carbine wasn't much different. They are some seriously crappy airsoft guns, I'd prefer using a walmart spring pistol. The list goes on and on of all the things wrong with it. While I used my Marushin M1 carbine in a skirmish, I ended up using my SPRING pistol more than my rifle! I can't imagine what it would be like with the M1 Garand's eight round clip. My advice, is to buy one of the M14/M1 conversions... I bought one right after my Marushin carbine broke (I really didn't want a Thompson) and the M1 AEG's are very reliable and after I fixed up the one I bought, I've used it in tons of Vietnam and WWII airsoft battles without any problems. My Marushin 8mm Garand lasts 3 years already. I use it not very often but I use it. But to achieve this effect I changed all moving parts for metal ones. Last thing that I need to change is trigger spring. It has weakened already.
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