ScottCollins
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Post by ScottCollins on Apr 21, 2013 20:52:12 GMT -5
This question has been bouncing around in my head ever since I started playing WWIIAS about a year ago. I think I finally got it all worked out. My first game of it was played in June 2012 and I was actually astounded by the honesty of most of the players there. I had been to "true" airsoft establishments before and at every game there was always 4 or 5 people that constantly didn't call their hits. I don't know if that is just my area or the field but when we were out in the uniforms of 70 years ago, no one was screaming that they hit someone, people took their hit and it was a genuinely good time. The second part is that all us are of a different "breed" of airsofters so when we all get together and play you meet up with like-minded people. Also you don't see 4 year olds running around with AK-47's with 2000 round drum mags. It's a social event like hunting but without the real guns and alcohol. Finally, we enjoy the atmosphere of it. Being in the thick of a firefight that should've taken place 70 years ago but now in present times. I've just hit on some pretty general topics so if there are other aspects that I haven't considered please tell me.
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ersatzjack2
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Apr 23, 2013 21:46:16 GMT -5
World War Two started without the spectre of nuclear destruction hanging over the world. It was the last war to have that honor. I grew up with it in T.V. shows and movies and it was the greatest conflict. The politics were fascinating and the campaigns were epic. So yes, number one for me was the appeal of the period. I have played themed games and they pale in comparison to WW2 games. I agree that WW2 airsofters are very clean in their sportsmanship. I think this is because we're also reenactors and we get dressed up to recreate a period. I've been spoiled too. Playing with our regular group of MOA players is great because we all know one another and have reputations to uphold. Armor. Oh, yeah, armor. MOA has two armored vehicles now and we are working on a third. Playing airsoft with armored vehicles is another big attraction for me.
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2nd Bat
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 25, 2013 13:07:24 GMT -5
Airsoft regular skirmishes no longer have much appeal to me as they simply don't provide the emmersion, comraderie, sportsmanship and enjoyment of historical based events. (WW2 and Vietnam events)
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Sgt_Tom
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Apr 25, 2013 14:25:59 GMT -5
Generally smaller niche groups of hobbyists have more honesty going on. The more people involved the more room there is for error.
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Post by warbirdguy1 on Apr 25, 2013 15:22:22 GMT -5
I love it for my interest in history and I am tired of the freaking Mulitcam "mil-simmers" as they like to call them selves...lol
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Post by ssgjoe on Jan 17, 2014 18:46:40 GMT -5
It's different. I have always been interested in WWII. It was the only war of its kind, conventional warfare with modern technology. Some would argue that WWI was like this, but I would disagree. The technology of WWII was much the start of what we have now. For examole while we had planes in WWI, there weren't bombers and fighters, just planes. WWII was its own kind of war.
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stuka
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Post by stuka on Jan 17, 2014 19:50:18 GMT -5
there were bombers and fighters they just weren't half as effective or dedicated as ww2 fighters and bombers
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Post by ssgjoe on Jan 26, 2014 17:11:00 GMT -5
Well, their bombers were throwing bombs out of cockpits. Which you could have done easily with their "fighters".
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Post by ssgjoe on Jan 26, 2014 17:12:16 GMT -5
But you know what I meant.
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Post by volkssturm on Jan 28, 2014 19:07:24 GMT -5
What's really interesting about WWI is how far they went in four years. By the end of the war the Germans had the Gotha bomber that could reach London and the Brits had the Handley-Page that could carry about a ton of bombs. They had fighter rigged with bomb racks and they were flying what we call close air support. Like tanks, what they lacked was powerful, reliable engines and practical wireless communications. And by the end of the war all the major players had developed at least the rudiments of fire and maneuver tactics. The Germans were famous for their stosstruppen tactics, but the French also figured out a few things after getting their clocks cleaned in the first months of the war. One of their tactical innovations was hunter-killer teams armed with the Chauchat LMG (which has gotten a bad rap), grenades and self-loading rifles, which were used to take out machinegun nests. In some ways WWII picked up where WWI left off, just with newer and better equipment.
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stuka
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Post by stuka on Jan 28, 2014 21:05:51 GMT -5
the chauchet, from my understanding, only got a bad rap from when it as re-chambered to a 30-06. Unfortunately they didn't do much testing to see how well it worked and as could be seen was not really good for 30-06
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Post by volkssturm on Jan 28, 2014 23:21:18 GMT -5
The Chauchat is one of those weird things I've been interested in. From what I've been able to gather, there were two main problems with it. One was that the magazine had slots down the side so the gunner could see how many rounds he had left. This let mud into the mag and jammed it. The French actually produced a cloth sleeve to cover the mag and towards the end of the war started making solid sided mags. The other problem was that production was contracted out to a bicycle factory (or it might have been a motorcycle factory. I forget) which had very poor quality control. Some Chauchats worked quite well, if they were kept clean. Others were crap. The 8mm Lebel cartridge was relatively low powered, compared to the .30-06. They compounded the problem by getting the chamber dimensions wrong on the .30-06 versions. Like all light machine guns they overheated quickly with long bursts. But they were one of the first LMG's that was readily portable and able to be operated by one man. Close to a quarter million were produced and they were used by a number of countries in the '20's and '30's.
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