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Post by tinydata on Jul 26, 2013 9:02:47 GMT -5
So- I had a crazy idea pop into my head about a week ago- could I build a more aesthetically faithful M1903 out of my VSR-10 using a 3D printed receiver?
I have a BAR-10.
I have a real M1903
I have calipers
I have CAD software and the knowledge to CAD a hybrid receiver
Shapeways and Sculpteo could print these things for me
I know that I would personally love to have one, especially because now I wouldn't have to do as much epoxy work to make the build look like a M1903. The beauty of this approach is I can include the clip guide, the cut-off slot, and the receiver shape into one model.
Yes, a lot of the ideas on this forum are great cases of too much imagination and too little substance, but I think there may be something here. (Hell, I could CAD in accurate markings and individual serial numbers!)
The only downside is printing in metal is extremely expensive right now ($8/cm^3 in stainless steel), but I could probably build a polished ABS receiver for around $100.
To make up the weight difference I'd probably line the stock with lead weights.
Would anyone possibly be interested? I think I will build at least one for my personal enjoyment, but I'd love to open it up to others if there's any interest.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Jul 26, 2013 12:06:01 GMT -5
How about an ABS stock? The receiver looks ok on mine, but the stock was too thin (it was from a drill rifle) so it looks like a frankenstein . I had to put two small boards of wood on the side where the hop up and magazine would go. I've since repainted the whole thing. But yeah, what would you think about an ABS stock?  |
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Post by tinydata on Jul 26, 2013 12:26:15 GMT -5
Too large- I don't know of a readily available printer that can handle something like a full-sized rifle stock.
You'd be better off using a wood stock and being VEEEERY careful. I've done two without issues.
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Post by ScottCollins on Jul 26, 2013 12:42:29 GMT -5
Lol, that's the one he used and it snapped in half
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Post by brownien on Jul 26, 2013 13:47:43 GMT -5
I think this is a great idea! I never really thought of using 3D printing like this!
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Post by aj czarkowski on Jul 26, 2013 15:10:01 GMT -5
Too large- I don't know of a readily available printer that can handle something like a full-sized rifle stock. You'd be better off using a wood stock and being VEEEERY careful. I've done two without issues. The one I used was a wood stock, but it was from a drill rifle and unfortunately it was too thin causing part of it to brake (where the two pieces of wood are) Lol, that's the one he used and it snapped in half It snapped in half by itself lol |
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Post by roma on Jul 28, 2013 6:49:00 GMT -5
So- I had a crazy idea pop into my head about a week ago- could I build a more aesthetically faithful M1903 out of my VSR-10 using a 3D printed receiver? I have a BAR-10. I have a real M1903 I have calipers I have CAD software and the knowledge to CAD a hybrid receiver Shapeways and Sculpteo could print these things for me I know that I would personally love to have one, especially because now I wouldn't have to do as much epoxy work to make the build look like a M1903. The beauty of this approach is I can include the clip guide, the cut-off slot, and the receiver shape into one model. Yes, a lot of the ideas on this forum are great cases of too much imagination and too little substance, but I think there may be something here. (Hell, I could CAD in accurate markings and individual serial numbers!) The only downside is printing in metal is extremely expensive right now ($8/cm^3 in stainless steel), but I could probably build a polished ABS receiver for around $100. To make up the weight difference I'd probably line the stock with lead weights. Would anyone possibly be interested? I think I will build at least one for my personal enjoyment, but I'd love to open it up to others if there's any interest. I dont have RS Springfield but it seems to me that you will meet a probem with diference in VSR cylinder and RS receiver diameter. |
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Post by tinydata on Jul 28, 2013 7:52:28 GMT -5
I dont have RS Springfield but it seems to me that you will meet a probem with diference in VSR cylinder and RS receiver diameter. Yes, that's part of the fun, but even the most popular airsoft rifle, the AEG M4, has dimensional infidelities. However, it looks close enough to please a lot of people and that's what I'm going for here |
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Post by roma on Jul 28, 2013 8:45:52 GMT -5
I dont have RS Springfield but it seems to me that you will meet a probem with diference in VSR cylinder and RS receiver diameter. Yes, that's part of the fun, but even the most popular airsoft rifle, the AEG M4, has dimensional infidelities. However, it looks close enough to please a lot of people and that's what I'm going for here I am afraid that the difference is too big, it is better to use MP001 rifle I think, but good luck anyway.  |
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Post by 2nd Bat on Aug 10, 2013 0:13:46 GMT -5
The MP 001 is indeed a bit smaller then the BAR 10 and VSR but has such chronic failure in the trigger seer that they seldom last long at all. I would gladly surrender a little demensional infidelity for the improved durability and functionality. I think the day will soon be here when these 3D copy systems will open up all kinds of possibilities.
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Post by roma on Aug 11, 2013 1:24:32 GMT -5
The MP 001 is indeed a bit smaller then the BAR 10 and VSR but has such chronic failure in the trigger seer that they seldom last long at all. I would gladly surrender a little demensional infidelity for the improved durability and functionality. I think the day will soon be here when these 3D copy systems will open up all kinds of possibilities. That is why I am upgrading MP001 for VSR trigger set. |
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Post by aj czarkowski on Aug 12, 2013 11:03:34 GMT -5
The MP 001 is indeed a bit smaller then the BAR 10 and VSR but has such chronic failure in the trigger seer that they seldom last long at all. I would gladly surrender a little demensional infidelity for the improved durability and functionality. I think the day will soon be here when these 3D copy systems will open up all kinds of possibilities. That is why I am upgrading MP001 for VSR trigger set. Yeah, I did the same with a steel sear |
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Post by tinydata on Mar 14, 2014 16:07:16 GMT -5
It's been a while, but I finally sat down with my M1903 from 1919 and a BAR-10 receiver:    It went smoothly enough that I think I will try printing it |
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 14, 2014 18:50:56 GMT -5
Fabulous! 3D printers should provides oodles of opportunities for our hobby as they become more commonplace and affordable. i thought you were simply going to print the attachment items. I have about a dozen rear sites (for the A-3 versions) if you get your print done and need one. love the trades and serial number!
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Post by stuka on Mar 14, 2014 23:37:19 GMT -5
off topic but uh...Could you reproduce pliable bayonets?
By pliable i mean like a bit bendy so if i poke somebody they don't get bruise or start bleeding
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 23, 2014 22:27:02 GMT -5
Any updates TINY? Stuka you remain obsessed with bayonets. FIELDWORKS.com makes assorted replica rubber knives. They cost more than real surplus bayonets but they are safe to stab folks with assuming the rule set allows it and all players are okay with it. There was a rubber bayonet mounted on a Garand at last weeks event and it was pretty cool looking.
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Post by stuka on Mar 23, 2014 22:55:45 GMT -5
Yeah well it's a thing i find interesting. I do have the m1 garand bayonet and it fits well on a custom m1 garand i got (i am not sure if it is off of your design or not since i got it third hand or what have you). I am just wondering if he would be able to copy a type 30 bayonet for my ija impression. Even though banzai charges were kind of discouraged fairly early in the US vs Japan part of the war,, it is still very iconic and is a good way to freak little kids out at local games. I don't usually get kills but it's fun regardless
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Post by tinydata on Mar 24, 2014 23:55:45 GMT -5
No updates...I'm busy again so it will probably be May before I prototype everything (receiver, sight base, new, smaller magazines)
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 27, 2014 15:01:34 GMT -5
Keep us posted Tiny. I will probably build some more Springfields for my own local use and it would be a real time saver and a great touch to have something as nice as that to utilize. Another thought is the receiver group area of a G43 to mount over the M14 gear box set up.
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