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Post by worldwardrew on Jul 5, 2006 15:17:09 GMT -5
I read a few post today on another forum, and there was a lot of dispute about what splinter B camo really is. To me, it seemed like a bunch of people trying to push certain brands over others (maybe they were vendors I don't know). They had photo comparisons, but the less expensive ones seemed almost identical to the more expensive ones. So my thoughts are either these guys are nit picking Nazis or they are trying to make a buck. So dose anyone know exactly what splinter A is anyway???
On a last note the smock I have is like the one Capt. Zak sells; and when I studied some originals, the patterns closely resembled Capt. Zak's in color and pattern style. So when people say it is inaccurate it just seems to me they are BSing people into buying more expensive smocks because they work for or are trying to push people to certain vendors. Sorry for the rant everyone, sometimes I get frustrated with this double talk. Anyone else have any thoughts?
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Post by mauser98k on Jul 5, 2006 15:26:27 GMT -5
Splinter B has the green tick marks everywhere, whereas the splinter A has it scattered in different areas. All in all the chinese ones do have some flaws, including pattern and color.
Also the main flaw with chinese uniforms is the pockets. They are supposed to start at the 2nd button and end at the fourth. They usually start in the middle of the 2nd and end at the middle of the fourth in chinese tunics.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jul 5, 2006 15:43:04 GMT -5
The info I have is the difference in B is that it is a smaller design and spread over the material more and is more diagonal printed wheras the A is more horizontal and larger print. A was Heer camo B was not. It will depend on who you play with as to weather they will pick your splinter to death. I have seen the same photos you are talking about and both patterns do seem very very similar but thier are subtle differences. Get a early green only smock and you have avoided an argument you also avoided some damn fine camoflauge for game use. Up to you really. People that push things like this sometimes have alterior motives such as sales reciepts. Sometimes they just want things to be 100% accurate and thats an admirable quality.  |
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Post by Ungar on Jul 5, 2006 17:29:35 GMT -5
Splinter A: It has more contrast than the Splinter B and was an earlier version  Splinter B: THe contrast is much less than the Splinter A. The light brown part is actually much darker than seen in pic. I know I just got the same jacked about 5 mins ago from atthefront (Yes boys, you will see a new Luftwaffe impression coming  )  Tan& Water pattern camo: It is a distinctive camo. It is similar to the Splinter but more yellowish-brownish. And the edges are more blurred  Hope I could help |
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Post by worldwardrew on Jul 7, 2006 0:31:57 GMT -5
Thanks guys, you really helped me alot! I think I will stick to the cheapo smocks cuz they look good to me and best of all they are cheap! I think next I'm going to get a tan and water camo smock!
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Post by Capt. Zak on Aug 1, 2006 18:37:17 GMT -5
Most of the reenactors agree that ATF's smock is not the correct pattern either. Splinter B is smaller and the contrasting colors differ on both Splinter A & B. I have seen Splinter B on a light base, and splinter A on a dark base. So I guess the debate continues  Bottom line? Buy what you like. That's all I can say. But there will always be stitch Nazis ready to "farb" you out. LOL |
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Post by Ungar on Aug 1, 2006 20:53:37 GMT -5
Most of the reenactors agree that ATF's smock is not the correct pattern either. Splinter B is smaller and the contrasting colors differ on both Splinter A & B. I have seen Splinter B on a light base, and splinter A on a dark base. So I guess the debate continues Bottom line? Buy what you like. That's all I can say. But there will always be stitch Nazis ready to "farb" you out. LOL I don't like Super-hyper-anal reenactors either. If some above mentione got a problem with different patterns of SPlinter B lets say, I would suggest them to take a visit at Reichsminister Speers office and ask him to give uber super originals. So, just as Capt Zak said, go buy whatever you wish, the main thing is. Splinter, Tan & Water= Wehrmacht, except SS (correct me Capt.) OakLead searies, Dot= Waffen=SS . . . But, if anyone could explain this camo combo to me, I would REALLY THANK HIM/HER.  |
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Post by Capt. Zak on Aug 1, 2006 21:33:31 GMT -5
Wow, that picture is a bit odd.  No reason for that combo. Unless of course you are one of those guys that say "it could have happened in an extreme case". But I would stay away from mixing Splinter & SS camo. Only NON-SS units that had SS camo were the Hermann Goering Division and that was even on a limited basis. |
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Post by spitfire740 on Aug 1, 2006 23:10:16 GMT -5
Swiss camo is very similar to the splinter camo, so maybe there could be some kind of mix?
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Post by worldwardrew on Aug 2, 2006 0:00:23 GMT -5
Thanks alot for the opinons guys! I have decided to stick with what I got, because one I already have it and two it is awsome camo out here!
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Post by Ungar on Aug 2, 2006 17:31:09 GMT -5
Thank you Capt. Zack.
That lookd really odd to me too, I've never seen anything like it.
On the other hand Italian camo was used by all branches of infantry.
Heer, SS, Luftwaffe and I am not sure but maybe the "KriegsMarines" towards the end as well.
I have to brag forgive me. ;D
I got an orig italian camo shelter for 35.00 with the rope and buttons.
And it looks really nice!
Somehow I like the Italian camo.
Again thanks for the info Capt.!
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