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Post by volkssturm on Aug 29, 2014 12:23:54 GMT -5
I'm sure someone started a thread on this before, but I can't find it. Anywhoo, I finally bought a copy of it. I'm through parts 1 - 4. Very well done. It's a miniseries made in Germany as "Unsere Mutter, Unsere Vater", following five friends from June 1941 to the end of the war. Costuming and sets are excellent. Action scenes very good. Some events stretch credibility, but, hey, it's a movie.
One thing that was interesting. The SS men have a blank black patch on their right collars, without the SS runes. I guess that's still a sore point in Germany, even for theatrical productions.
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Aug 29, 2014 14:55:14 GMT -5
No, the collar tabs isn't incorrect. That's SD.
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Post by volkssturm on Aug 29, 2014 16:16:54 GMT -5
Now you've got me confused. There's the Reichssicherheitsdienst (RSD) which was a branch of the SS. Was there a separate SD organization? The guy's got the correct rank insignia on the left collar tab for an SS obersturmfuhrer.
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Aug 29, 2014 19:33:04 GMT -5
Yes. SD doesn't wear runes.
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Post by volkssturm on Aug 29, 2014 21:23:20 GMT -5
Did not know that. Thanks.
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Post by hardslack on Nov 8, 2015 0:46:09 GMT -5
This is on netflix now. I just finished it. Rather depressing, lots of the ugliness of war. I cant really speak to any historical accuracy of lack thereof, but I enjoyed watching it. At one point there is a lady Russian officer leading a unit, did that kind of thing happen? I know the Russian's had female pilots and snipers but that's all I know of.
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Post by ssgjoe on Nov 8, 2015 11:26:51 GMT -5
When the Russian lady officer made the comment about "we are liberators, not r@p!sts" I kinda a snickered..lol
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Post by volkssturm on Nov 8, 2015 12:43:47 GMT -5
I think she was a doctor. Earlier she was working in the German hospital as a locally recruited nurse and Charlotte realizes her skill level is way more than an ordinary nurse. Then Charlotte finds out she's a Jew and turns her in, but she escapes. It stretches plausibility a bit that she'd come back as a fairly high ranking officer, but the plot called for it.
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Post by LT. Zach on Nov 9, 2015 13:34:19 GMT -5
We can probably agree it is the greatest German war film ever made.
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Post by ssgjoe on Nov 9, 2015 17:12:36 GMT -5
It showed the human side of the Germana, but it seemed to be ever so slightly more pro allied propaganda; I just want an unbiased film that shows the good in every side, not the bad.
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Post by LT. Zach on Nov 9, 2015 23:23:39 GMT -5
Well it was based on the true story of real people/engagements. I see what you mean though.
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Post by hardslack on Nov 9, 2015 23:39:13 GMT -5
It was based on real stories? I did a cursory search and didn't turn much up, but it seemed like that was the case when the credits roll and they listed when people died.
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Post by volkssturm on Nov 10, 2015 13:28:18 GMT -5
I would imagine that they cut and pasted bits from many people's experiences. The character Greta for example seems to have been based on singer/actress Hanne Mertens, who was arrested late in the war for making disparaging remarks about the Nazis on the stage. She was executed in the last weeks of the war in what seems to have been an effort to kill off as many opponents, even minor ones, as possible before the end of the war. One thing about the execution scene, they wouldn't have used a firing squad. Generally political prisoners were hung, guillotined, or shot in the back of the head.
A good book, if you've got the time to wade through it, is "The Third Reich At War" by Richard J. Evans.
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Post by schmitz on Nov 11, 2015 10:08:03 GMT -5
We can probably agree it is the greatest German war film ever made. No, we can't. Das Boot is the greatest.
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Post by LT. Zach on Nov 11, 2015 10:52:27 GMT -5
We can probably agree it is the greatest German war film ever made. No, we can't. Das Boot is the greatest. I would have to disagree with that statement
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Post by volkssturm on Nov 11, 2015 11:29:26 GMT -5
"Das Boot" is arguably the best movie about the U-Boat war. "Generation War" covers a much broader subject. They're really different categories. There are some significant flaws in GW, but within the limits of what you can do in a mini-series it gives a good overview of the war from the twenty-something point of view. It's such a monumental topic you can't really pick out one film as "the best."
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Post by schmitz on Nov 11, 2015 14:27:04 GMT -5
No, we can't. Das Boot is the greatest. I would have to disagree with that statement Yep, and therefore we can't agree
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Post by volkssturm on Nov 11, 2015 15:18:25 GMT -5
I would have to disagree with that statement Yep, and therefore we can't agree I would agree with that.
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