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Post by binarypunisher on Nov 29, 2006 14:15:32 GMT -5
I read about Germans in the wintertime taking bedsheets, and then modifying them so they could be worn as improvised camouflage.
Does anyone have any good photos of this?
Or a general idea of what they did?
I am looking to potentially do this for the Long Winter game in January..but I dont know where to start really.
Id be going FJ BTW if that matters.
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Post by themango on Nov 29, 2006 14:31:48 GMT -5
On page 261 of World War II in Photographs by David Boyle there is a picture of a German Soldier escorting American POWs. The German has what just appears to be a bed sheet placed on his helmet and held on by some sort of strap. I would scan it but I dont have a scanner that works. I will try to find it on the internet though.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Nov 29, 2006 14:39:21 GMT -5
brian I think it would be worn like a smock would. Cut a hole for the head, put it over the body and under all the webbing, I'm bring a sheet/table cloth for Long Winter.
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Post by themango on Nov 29, 2006 14:43:10 GMT -5
I know Americans did the same thing so you can bet I will be there with a sheet as well. Maybe some confusion will arise during the event. Friendly fire!?
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Post by themango on Nov 29, 2006 14:49:00 GMT -5
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 29, 2006 15:03:43 GMT -5
While the Americans certainly improvised with bed sheet, table cloths and even elaborate doilies. The germans had purpose built snow tunics and helmet covers. That's not to say that they didn't also improvise with available materials just that in addition to the improvisation the Germans had actual snow issue camo as well. Accurately depicted in the classic black and white movie BATTLEGROUND (1949 Two time Academy Award winner) It's my favorite WW2 war movie and a great resource for the Long Winter.
US solidiers readily borrowed them as it was quite tragic how US vehicles and personnel stood out in the Ardennes fields and forests early in the battle.
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Post by binarypunisher on Nov 29, 2006 17:01:12 GMT -5
Thanks all.
Drew: Thats pretty much what I was thinking, almost like a poncho (or zelt?).
I can imagine that the American and German improvised bed sheet camo probably looked fairly similar.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Nov 30, 2006 0:00:39 GMT -5
Nice picture Mango, Brian I sent you a PM on Battlesim about German snow camo.
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Post by Ungar on Nov 30, 2006 19:03:31 GMT -5
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Post by Jager.Drü on Dec 1, 2006 1:13:30 GMT -5
Great pic hans, thank you for shareing them
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Post by schmitty on Dec 23, 2006 10:56:17 GMT -5
In the movie Stalingrad the Germans have improvised snow camo helmet covers. There isn't likely to be snow at our upcoming Long Winter game though.
Schmitty
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2006 16:33:49 GMT -5
but you can always hope for the best!
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Post by guitarmaster on Dec 23, 2006 19:22:06 GMT -5
I no on band of brothers one of the guys put what looked like some part of a cloth sheet on his helmet
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Post by Jager.Drü on Dec 23, 2006 19:27:27 GMT -5
We are talking about GERMAN winter camo, not U.S. Please leave BOB out of this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2006 21:29:51 GMT -5
i need to do a german impression now! with a sheet(zelt) for camoflage!
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Post by Ungar on Dec 24, 2006 12:28:21 GMT -5
Guys don't be so Hyper about what the Germans used in the winter for camouflage.
If it was fridgid they took the enemy's clothes and such.
In the Ardennes offensive Germans took American trousers, and ponchos for additional warmth.
Also bedsheets were used.
They used soapstone or washing soap to whiten their helmet whatever white material they could get their hands on.
Necessity always calls for Inventions.
For Example:
The lack of panzers in the 1943 counterattacks at Kharkow called for improvisation.
The Germans put PaK 75's on SdKfz 7 chassies.
They took the row of seats out in the back and just custom attached a PaK 75 or Pak 50 to the back.
This whole thing was just field made.
One such monster of the Das Reich went out on a patrol and engaged 11 T34's. This unprotected field made self propelled gun destroyed all the tanks.
Anyways!
Merry Christmas to you all!
Fruliches Weinachten und eine gluckliches Neu Jahr!
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