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Post by volkssturm on Apr 12, 2015 23:46:26 GMT -5
Just ran across this the other day, and experimental German rifle. The Great 05. There's some guys building a replica of it. I haven't found much else about it. It was a roller locking action, like the Great 06, with some influence from the Gew 41 and 43. From the pic it looks like it would have made a handy little short rifle/carbine. gunlab.net/cut-away-of-the-05-rifle/
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 13, 2015 16:24:06 GMT -5
It would probably have been a significant influence on the war front had it been developed earlier and pursued. Low cost and easy to manufacture, very much an assault rifle along the performance of the Stg 44 but with simplicity of design that could have in fact replaced the Kar 98 in the hands of all German Infantry which would have made things much much rougher for English and Russian speaking people around the world!
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Post by insterburger on Apr 13, 2015 17:13:20 GMT -5
It would probably have been a significant influence on the war front had it been developed earlier and pursued. Low cost and easy to manufacture, very much an assault rifle along the performance of the Stg 44 but with simplicity of design that could have in fact replaced the Kar 98 in the hands of all German Infantry which would have made things much much rougher for English and Russian speaking people around the world! I agree, a low cost gun of that sort could have significantly prolonged things, although it wouldn't have changed the final outcome, unless they figured out a way for it to make oil.
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Post by volkssturm on Apr 14, 2015 0:25:03 GMT -5
It would have made a neat Airsoft gun as well.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 14, 2015 1:46:26 GMT -5
The fellow who built his and posted the process did a really exceptional job. Its such an obscure rifle that i really couldn't see much commercial opportunity for them. I know he planned to sell them. I wonder how he did with the project.
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Post by volkssturm on Apr 14, 2015 12:17:47 GMT -5
I think it's a project still in progress. They seem to be doing a number of different obscure weapons. He must have access to some rare documentation, because I haven't found hardly anything about the Great 05 on the Internet.
It's interesting how the Great 05 is kind of a hybrid between traditional design, with a wood stock patterned after the Gew43, while the working parts appear to be a self-contained unit that would function just fine with the addition of a pistol grip and buttstock. Like they were trying to design an assault rifle that looked like "your father's Oldsmobile."
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Post by volkssturm on Apr 17, 2015 17:33:44 GMT -5
Some more information on the family history here: www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/01/01/do-you-know-your-hks-parents/The Gerat 05 came from the Gerat 03. The Gerat 03 was a Gew 43 that had the receiver replaced with a roller locking design to try to make it cheaper to produce. The roller locking design came from the MG42 which in turn adapted the roller locking idea from a Polish patent from the 1930's. We're lucky I suppose the Germans spent so much time trying to make their weapons perfect instead of "Make it good in enough and start mass production."
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