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Feb 6, 2007 17:37:11 GMT -5
Post by airsoftblitzkrieg on Feb 6, 2007 17:37:11 GMT -5
I've got a question on the Kar-98(airsoft). I know of the Tanaka Kar-98, but is there any other brand that is cheaper, or is just a spring? Sorta like the TM VSR10 is. If not...would any of you say that the wood version of the TM VSR-10 would be good enough for a Kar-98 impersonation? It has a different look, but...eI figure I should ask here of all places. ~Blitz~ |
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Feb 6, 2007 18:24:44 GMT -5
Post by Russianboy on Feb 6, 2007 18:24:44 GMT -5
Well then later your going to learn that a stock TM VSR-10 is useless in combat.
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K-98?
Feb 6, 2007 18:28:17 GMT -5
Post by airsoftblitzkrieg on Feb 6, 2007 18:28:17 GMT -5
what? what do you mean?  |
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Feb 6, 2007 18:32:35 GMT -5
Post by 29ththerealpimps on Feb 6, 2007 18:32:35 GMT -5
It is not a good gun
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Feb 6, 2007 18:33:58 GMT -5
Post by airsoftblitzkrieg on Feb 6, 2007 18:33:58 GMT -5
this is the 1st ive heard of this...could you guys give me a reason why?
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Feb 6, 2007 18:36:50 GMT -5
Post by Nimlas on Feb 6, 2007 18:36:50 GMT -5
It's not that it isn't a good gun, it's just that stock, it's about as powerful as your average AEG. The mag capacity is so low, and the action so slow, it's not worth it. However, it does make a nice platform for a DM gun. |
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Feb 6, 2007 18:42:47 GMT -5
Post by airsoftblitzkrieg on Feb 6, 2007 18:42:47 GMT -5
It's not that it isn't a good gun, it's just that stock, it's about as powerful as your average AEG. The mag capacity is so low, and the action so slow, it's not worth it. However, it does make a nice platform for a DM gun. ok, but aren't the mag restrictions just make it more realistic? |
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Feb 6, 2007 18:53:51 GMT -5
Post by Russianboy on Feb 6, 2007 18:53:51 GMT -5
But this is airsoft, not real combat...
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Feb 6, 2007 19:00:42 GMT -5
Post by mikkel on Feb 6, 2007 19:00:42 GMT -5
I hope you try and make it as realistic as possible?
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Feb 6, 2007 19:25:49 GMT -5
Post by Russianboy on Feb 6, 2007 19:25:49 GMT -5
the guns only shoot 200 feet at max.
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Feb 6, 2007 19:27:09 GMT -5
Post by airsoftblitzkrieg on Feb 6, 2007 19:27:09 GMT -5
the guns only shoot 200 feet at max. Und? |
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Feb 6, 2007 22:20:17 GMT -5
Post by Russianboy on Feb 6, 2007 22:20:17 GMT -5
Thats my point they dont shoot like real guns... So I dont under stand milsim alot unless its CQB...
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Feb 7, 2007 12:30:09 GMT -5
Post by mikkel on Feb 7, 2007 12:30:09 GMT -5
I'm a little confused here, you want to run around in period authentic uniforms, but don't want the guns to perform as realistic as they can?
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Feb 7, 2007 15:22:00 GMT -5
Post by baconandeggs on Feb 7, 2007 15:22:00 GMT -5
I believe Russianboy's point is that since the performance of airsoft weapons is, in fact, significantly inferior to real steel, there is little point in attempting to be realistic regarding 'ammunition' loadouts.
1) BB's won't penetrate even light cover, or heavy concealment (i.e a thick bush). Bullets do.
2) BB's have an effective range of, at most, 200 feet. Effective range on a Kar-98k (or the weapon of your choice) is several hundred yards.
3) With bullets, the opponent always knows they are hit. There is also a visible indication of a hit (dust puff and blood). Not so with small and lightweight bbs.
4) Even the least accurate real steel is more accurate than the best airsoft weapon. Fewer misses = less ammo needed.
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Feb 7, 2007 16:10:33 GMT -5
Post by Russianboy on Feb 7, 2007 16:10:33 GMT -5
Thats what I have been saying all along.
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Feb 7, 2007 16:41:07 GMT -5
Post by mikkel on Feb 7, 2007 16:41:07 GMT -5
IF all people have the same handicap, it will still be fair.
Else we could just run around with 12V batteries and hicap magazines.
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Feb 7, 2007 16:44:10 GMT -5
Post by Russianboy on Feb 7, 2007 16:44:10 GMT -5
What I hate that pisses me off are people who take there M-4 and put a C-mag on it... I think large drum and box mags should be left to real LMGs and SAWs.
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Feb 7, 2007 17:17:12 GMT -5
Post by airsoftblitzkrieg on Feb 7, 2007 17:17:12 GMT -5
ok, besides the ammo and "range of realism" what is the big deal you all have against the VSR?
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Feb 7, 2007 19:00:37 GMT -5
Post by CharleyNovember on Feb 7, 2007 19:00:37 GMT -5
Get the VSR and upgrade it later on if you like. Shooting semi auto bolt action in a game where they do not control semi and FA or the FPS of guns beyond the standard 400fps or less for AEG's you will be at a disadvantage. That is really all there is to it. Stock you are going to be shooting bolt action style at about 280-300fps with the VSR at a normal regulated game on a field some people will be shooting 280 just like you some people will be shooting 400fps and everything between some guns will be more or less accurate then yours. The AEG's will have 5-10 bb's in the air coming downrange towards you in the time you fire once cock the gun and sight in again. Odds are that they will have you. However you will probally still have fun and you will get some kills with your VSR 10. IF you are looking for cheap then you can buy the Chinamade copy of the VSR 10. gunnerairsoft.com sells them. alot cheaper yet they take the same parts when you get ready to upgrade. So there you have it. If you are set on buying it then just buy it. Now you know what to expect though.
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Feb 7, 2007 19:48:49 GMT -5
Post by airsoftblitzkrieg on Feb 7, 2007 19:48:49 GMT -5
ok, thanks for the input there
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