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Post by click on Apr 25, 2007 8:05:33 GMT -5
I know that the FJ would sometimes fight in just the service shirt rather than a smock in Italy, because of the heat. But which of these colors would be the most apropriate. Grey or Mustard/sand? I am thinking of getting one from this shop here, and it is four times less expensive than the smocks they have (I don't really like the color on them anyways). Which would you recomend? Or are they Flaggrantly Wrong or the wrong color?  This?  Or this?  Click |
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Post by Jager.Drü on Apr 25, 2007 8:49:09 GMT -5
Depends if you were issued tropical gear. I do a Italy FJ impression towards the end they wore a mix of standard and tropical gear.
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Tan service shirt
Tropical tunic
FJ wool pants
I have both a side cap and a tropical M41 cap.
I have a mix of both tropical and standard for field gear.
So, really you could do either. If its the heat that really gets you, go with tan, but it wasn't always sunny Italy.
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Post by click on Apr 25, 2007 11:32:01 GMT -5
True. It wasn't. Thanks for the tips. How do you think the shirt itself looks? Is it accurate?
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Post by Ripper on Apr 25, 2007 12:26:28 GMT -5
My service shirt has tails that reach down as far as my knees. I know they came in several different colors, but maybe there are different types as well.
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Post by click on Apr 25, 2007 14:50:26 GMT -5
I am guessing that the normal use of the service shirt, at least in the army, was wear under the tunic?
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Post by Ripper on Apr 25, 2007 18:49:02 GMT -5
Yes, it was normally used as an undergarment. However, some versions come with button holes and straps on the shoulders for shoulder boards. Those could be worn as a work shirt without tunic.
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Post by Ungar on Apr 25, 2007 19:30:46 GMT -5
AS long as the shirt is tucked into the pants, it is definately period.
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Post by click on Apr 26, 2007 1:04:25 GMT -5
Great! Thanks guys!
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Post by Capt. Zak on Apr 26, 2007 6:17:03 GMT -5
Both shirts look good. They are a bit too short, but if they are tucked in (as already suggested) they will be fine.
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Post by click on Apr 26, 2007 8:08:19 GMT -5
OK I think I will get one. What additional gear would you guys suggest as a minnimum to reenact? What I was thinking was: -AGM MP40 -Luft Buckle and Belt- -MP40 Mag pouches -Service Shirt -Jump Trousers -Jump Helmet -Stick Grenade What do you think? I have sort of been basing this list off of these pics:    The last two are pics of a guy in a reenacting group here in Poland. The first of course, is orginal. Thoughts and suggestions are welcome. Click |
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Post by Jager.Drü on Apr 26, 2007 9:02:34 GMT -5
Its a good start, but once you start buying stuff you won't want to stop, next thing you know you've have a smock, tunic, overseas, breadbag, canteen, e-tool, etc.
I would suggest getting suspenders and not wearing the belt around your waist like the guy in the pics. Wear the belt up under your belly button. You will also want a bread bag, they come in handy for carrying stuff. Canteen for water.
I also do a Italy Impression, cool to see someone else wanting to.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Apr 26, 2007 9:53:39 GMT -5
Like Dru says it is a good start but you will buy more. The gas mask bag is a staple of FJ uniforms but was often used to carry grenades and sometimes other supplies as they would throw away the mask and keep the bag. Bags are hard to find sometimes though I have had great luck with Landser Outfitters here in the US.
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Post by click on Apr 26, 2007 13:05:23 GMT -5
Yes well, you can't buy more if you don't have the money   . Dru, thanks for all your support. On the topic of weather or not to have Y-Straps, take a look at this photo:  The pic was taken in Africa, but as you can see the Jager has simply threaded the bely through his beltloops. I believe that this is what the reenactor did in the other pics as well. But you are right, they should be Steve Erkled (you like my new verb?) a little. AADan- Thanks for the tip on the gas mask bag. I was thinking of getting one but I was worried with what I would fill it with. I thought I might have to buy a gas mask. Thanks to you, I know I can fill it with extra grenades. They are so cheap, like $5, and throwable. Click |
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Post by Ripper on Apr 26, 2007 13:48:34 GMT -5
He also appears to be wearing light duty y-straps with d-rings attached to the belt. Common when no mag pouches are being carried.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Apr 26, 2007 16:53:21 GMT -5
I'm talking pants suspenders, not the combat y straps. To hold the pants up, they should ride very high. When I sit down, the pants hit my ribs.
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Post by Ungar on Apr 26, 2007 17:58:07 GMT -5
Seem like in the picture above the Jager uses the ystrap as the suspender.
Good example of common sense
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Post by click on Apr 27, 2007 1:20:10 GMT -5
OK, thanks. I'll add some suspenders to my list. Anything else?
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Post by Jager.Drü on Apr 27, 2007 8:49:35 GMT -5
Boots? I'm just saying wear your combat stuff seprate from the uniform. Suspenders to hold the pants up. Combat gear for combat, so you can take it off and still have a cool impression. Also with the combat belt through the belt loops, all the gear would annoy the crap out of you when you try to run, crouch, do anything. It would hit you in the back of the legs and be very annoying.
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