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Post by volkssturm on Nov 9, 2018 12:38:38 GMT -5
Rob, from "British Muzzleloaders", has tons of videos on YouTube dealing with British weapons, equipment and tactics from the 1800's to WWII. He does serious research on the topics and dresses the part. He's also pretty clever with manipulating videos so there can be two or more of him demonstrating firing in ranks, etc. Also has a wry sense of humor. This video deals with British training and techniques for CQB fighting with the Enfields. www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCZ4nK8PVDcAnd Part Two of this episode has been posted, talking about how the technique improved later in the war. www.youtube.com/watch?v=zerXIuTW-HA
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 19, 2018 3:36:24 GMT -5
Fun video. Informative and entertaining. I recall marching fire and later "Quick Kill" which we were trained on in the late 60s, early 70s. For "Quick Kill" one deviation from their approacb was to extend the forward arm forward which created a more instinctive aim. Obviously with a bolt action rifle not a practical technique.
I also heard somewhere that the British ARMY advocated using the ring finger on the trigger which accelerated the rate of fire on the Enfield.
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Post by volkssturm on Nov 19, 2018 22:28:35 GMT -5
I seem to remember a manual we had in ROTC, "Tactical Training of the Individual Soldier," (or TTIS) which described "Assault Fire Technique" as walking towards the enemy position, firing as the left foot hits the ground, from the hip, pointing at suspected enemy positions. I recall reading that and thinking "Are they ****** serious?"
In some of his videos on the SMLE Rob ("British Muzzleloaders") pulls the trigger with the second or third finger, so he's actually grasping the bolt handle with thumb and forefinger.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 20, 2018 20:09:04 GMT -5
We did live fire "Walking Fire" with M14s exactly as described. Fire each time your left foot stepped down. Supposedly it was a technique originally designed for the BAR. Between wars BAR belt had in place of one of the pouches a metal cup that the BAR butt plate slipped into facilitating "walking fire."
seemed crazy to me as well. One of the vital lessons the Us Army learned in WW2 was the value of "Recon by Fire", Suppressive fire and volume often won out over aimed fire. The semi automatic Garand, excellent logistics providing ready resupply of ammo and the incredible penetrating properties of our 30:06 ammo no doubt demonstrated its validity.
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Post by volkssturm on Nov 22, 2018 11:49:30 GMT -5
Part two of the episode talks about how the grasp the bolt with thumb and forefinger and pull the trigger with the middle finger became official doctrine mid-war, for close quarters combat at least.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 10, 2018 0:59:16 GMT -5
It was determined that the British "Mad minute" where an Infantry man was required to fire their Enfield as rapidly and accurately as possible over a 60 second time frame that using the ring finger greatly infuenced the rate of fire with no impact on accuracy. It became part of their training. The relatively straight stock of the Enfield and buttery smooth action of the Enfield bolt action made that true.
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