Sniper Setup

[indie]

Okay, I've revised it a bit:

*Field Gear*

EM Belt, Black
SS Buckle
K98 Ammo Pouches, Black
Breadbag (which color do you guys suggest?)
Canteen with metal cup
Entrenching tool, non-folding
K98 Bayonet (rubber) and frog, Black
Combat Y-straps
P08 Holster, Black
M31 Mess Kit
A-frame and bag

*Clothing*

M40 Tunic
M37 Trousers
Jackboots
M43 Field Cap
M42 Steel Helmet (1 with chicken wire and Normandy camo, 1 with whitewash, and 1 plain field grey)
Wool Socks (2 pair)
Wool Gloves
Wool Torque
M40 Greatcoat
Overwhite
Leather Gloves
Type 1 M38 Blurred edge smock
Blurred Edge Helmet Cover
Mouse Grey to White Parka and Pants
Oak Leaf A Zeltbahn

and other various items i haven't mentioned. i plan to get most of these items, but i do know it will cost some money to do all of this. does it sound good so far for a sniper impression? feel free to add/delete some things as you see fit.

[Jager.Drü]

Sounds good to me, some things you have in your list you don't "HAVE" to have. Like Mouse Grey Parkas and 3 helemts. One thing is isn't a must get item but they look darn cool, is the SS face-veil. Maybe a Plane Tree pattern SS smock. I would go with either a Green or Tan breadbag. Either would be fine. Do you already have a P08? If not get a P38 for your side arm.

It will prolly cost you an arm and a leg. German impressions are expensive.

[sharpshooter]

This sounds like it'll cost thousands of dollars.......not to mention buying the rifle and scope to along with it

Its a lot of dough, but It sounds pretty good to me, and like Jager Dru said, you really dont NEED 3 helmets, and only buying 1 will cut the cost WAY down.

[gadge]

I would ammend thus....

as said get one helmet, you dont need three I have *one* that i customise (its got a 2nd panzer dunkelgelb overspray as basic) with bread bags strap, an inner tube or a splinter cover depending on what i need it for, in winter put some bedsheet over it and hold it down with a strip of inner tube.



Parka *or* greatcoats, greatcoats were only issued to 20 per cent of a unit BTW (thats lufty regs, im pretty sure the army was the same).. anyway you dont need both.

Same with gloves, wool for an EM leather for an officer really
For comparison this is what luftwaffe infantry were issued for Russia

five undershirts
five pairs underpants
one belt
one field cap
two tight fitting winter hoods
one overcoat (20% of unit only)
service tunic (other 80 %)
one fligerbluse
one pair wool gloves
one pair mittens
one wool scarf
three blankets (four for 25 % of unit)


combat troops recieved the following additional items
one reversible wonter suit
one wool cap
one pair gauntlets
one pair felt boots
one pair knee protectors

for those on sentry duty

fur hat
straw overboots
oversize greatcoat

there you go... thats what a lufty infanteer would have had with regards to clothing

(source: Osprey luftwaffe field divisions pg42)

[gadge]

Oh i think it assumes that all this is in addition to normal service uniform of trousers, tunic, helmet and boots.. other wise they would al lbe running around barefoot with no trousers.

[Russian]

Keep in mind, soldiers would paint their helmets over older layers. So, you could easily get away with painting your helmet for each of the different patterns you need.

[gadge]

That or whitewash, it wil come off but it did then too....

[indie]

sorry i haven't been on in a while. in reply to my original post, yes, it probably will cost a bit, but i would want to try at least to pick up three helmets. its not neccassary, but it would be something i'd want in the long run. and being that i want this impression to look good for stalingrad, d-day, and the rest of the war, do you guys suggest just getting one feldgrau helmet? as for the greatcoat, good advice, i might just not get one, but then again, i find them extremely awesome, and would love to get one for impression use as well as an everyday winter garment. as for the leather gloves, i already have a pair that i bought a while ago just because i needed a pair of them, not for impression use, but they look a whole lot like german gloves, and i just thought that they would be okay. and the face veil. yes, they look sweet, but i don't think i would like using one. i hate things that impair my vision, and whereas i could just move the fabric out of my line of sight, i don't think i will buy one just yet. and no, i don't have a P08, but were they used just as much as P38's? again, personal preference, i just like the P08 better. for the parka, i just thought that maybe either mouse grey or camo, i'm not sure. just need something for winter wear that i could possibly sub for a greatcoat if i didn't get one. so now what do you guys think? i really want to do this impression right, and it will definetly cost a lot, but seeing people with huge displays with several helmets and 5 tunics, i get jealous. and some of these people are the same age as me, so i know it could be possible.

[Jager.Drü]

Snipers would be issued parkas if anything for winter use. As you can move pretty freely in one. I just bought a mouse grey one for reenacting/everyday wear. Greatcoats are heavy and really long. When you go down to kneel or go prone, you end up stepping on the end and tripping yourself. Also moving through is sort of brush with an overcoat is a pain in the butt.

One feldgrau helmet would be fine. As you can cover it with a helmet cover, net, breadbag strap, rubber tube, or a sniper veil.

Some displays are a whole group of peoples stuff, others are one persons. If you want a big display is going to cost money. Better get a high paying job! I can set a small display of stuff, but I've also been buying stuff for a couple years. If you buy it one piece at a time its not so bad.

[indie]

yeah, i'm the kind of guy that i buy stuff whenever i have the money. i get twenty dollars, and i must buy something right then and there for my impression. even if its just a five dollar pack of razor blades. it still goes along with it, so its all good. just a question though, when were parkas issued? did some troops have them on the eastern front? i want to be able to portray a german in all kinds of weather, snowy, hot and humid, dry and cold, etc., so i just need to know what i can get for the winter time. other than that, i'm pretty much set for what i need to get. like for summer i'm getting a set of HBT's, so i'm just having trouble with the winter part of my impression.

[flectarn]

Parkas came in 1942. They were originally designed for the eastern front.

[indie]

cool. that early in the war, they were mouse grey, right? would that look just as good for late war as well?

[Jager.Drü]

Yep

[indie]

great! then i think i will get a set! a greatcoat would still be something i would definitely get in the future, but just for now i will get the parka and trousers. do you guys have any tips on making an overwhite by any chance? i need to know how to do it period looking, but i really don't know what they look like besides just a big white shirt...

[Russian]

Wanna know how to make a "period correct" white snow cover? Grab a pair of scissors, and cut up a white sheet.


The soldiers didn't have "guidelines" or "period correct" ways of doing it. And, trust me, the process of cutting fabric has not changed so much in 60 years as to cause you to not be able to recreate it.

Cut something that looks functional to you, and sew where needed. Not everything has to be "uber 1337-zz0r5" or issued. Guys improvised, so can you.

And, I guess you can have your soap box back.

[Adler69]

Like Russian said , get an old white sheet , cut a hole in it for your head to fit thru , then cut another piece of it to make the helmet cover and you are done, fast and easy.
Here's an original pic of German troops with improvised snow camo using sheets