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Post by panzer13 on Apr 28, 2007 2:34:21 GMT -5
Guys and Gals, most of you know i have a passion for German ww2 guns..I got my hands on a mp40 , and a Real steel mp41 stock and a dremel .. Lots o grinding ..and lots of patience ..it functions fine just like the mp40- and still has the waffenamt markings on it ..ill try to get a better pic of the stamp .. its not quite done yet ..there are a few things i have to clean up (small ammt of gorilla glue came out of the stock)and a part that goes on the receivers endcap.. and like the real steel it only fires full auto .. s16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/panzerhooligan/MP41%20AEG%20project/its my first custom.. tell me what you think
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Post by click on Apr 28, 2007 2:56:45 GMT -5
Very, Very cool! How long did it take you to do it?
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Apr 28, 2007 11:33:42 GMT -5
wow, now that there is a very nice gun. excellent work.
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Post by jaeger on Apr 28, 2007 11:37:19 GMT -5
Top notch work there! Looks awsome! I thought that they used those in Italy (or maybe I'm thinking of the MP28).
Nick
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 28, 2007 11:54:59 GMT -5
Looks great. Great job on the trigger assembly. Can it still be dissasembled ok? Is it sturdy enough to accomodate a sling? Like Schutzee und Jaeger I'd like a little more background on the guns use.
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Post by mauser98k on Apr 28, 2007 12:12:29 GMT -5
To my knowledge the MP41 was select-fire. If there was a way you could implement that, it would be neat. Anyways, that is an amazing conversion, i give props to you!
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Post by panzer13 on Apr 28, 2007 12:41:33 GMT -5
it took me around 2 weeks to do it .(an hr here and there)
.if i had to add up the hrs ,id say prob in the neighborhood of 10-12 hrs
it still has the waffenamt markings on the stock , ill try and get a good pic of it to show you guys..but around the eagle are 2 letters"W.M"
I can only assume that meant Wehrmacht...
since it came out in 41 and the wood stock is alot easier to produce than a folding metal stock , im guessing at this point in the war ..resources (metal and machinist skills ) are becoming slimmer and slimmer to come by..
But thanks for the compliments guys ..i think the next one on the burner will prob be a Madsen or a mg 15..
if the 41 was select fire , it was news to me .
correct me if im wrong but the 40 was full auto only , so i went with the notion that the 41 was aswell..
The 28 as far as i know was used by the Italians alot, but one of the sweetest mp 's was the 18 Bergmann...
if you look at the 40 and 41 they are almost identical..minus the stock ..and some of the trimmings on the barrel (underside of the 40 has the flat bar that rides the barrel and the muzzle assmbly has the big piece of metal that juts out)
Yes the stock and sling are strong enough to hold a sling , im just gonna put a 40 sling on it , as i dont think they made one special for the 40, and i made so the whole trigger guard and assmbly can be taken apart in case of repair..
p.s Mauser is right it was issued in select fire
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Post by Jager.Drü on Apr 28, 2007 12:59:13 GMT -5
A MG15 would be cool to see.
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Post by click on Apr 28, 2007 16:35:41 GMT -5
So the 41 was a late war thing? Interesting, I thought that it was early war.
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Post by jaeger on Apr 28, 2007 23:08:20 GMT -5
I decided to look up a bit of info on the gun. It turns out that it was only produced for one year (beginning in 41 it seems). The real gun was produced by Schmeisser (unlike the MP40). This gun was similar to the MP28 and from the info here: www.modelguns.co.uk/mp41.htmit appears that the MP41 acted as a replacement for the MP28. I should also mention that I read somewhere else that the stock, trigger, and fire selector on the MP41 were taken from the MP28 (and the rest of the gun came from the MP40 obviously). It was often used for paramilitary police organizations (most likely Feldgendermerie, local police, etc.). This explains the wooden stock, because it could easily be used to club unruly crowds. As for the notion that it was created as a cheaper replacement for the MP40, I just don't think that is true. The MP40 was a ground-breaking new weapon that utilized mostly pressed steel parts. They were cheaper and easier to make than wooden-stocked guns. Just my thoughts on the issue and thanks again for creating this new gun!!! :-). Nick
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Post by Tough Ombre on Apr 29, 2007 0:38:35 GMT -5
damn you beat me to it.. i was just thinking about how easy that would be while looking at it on ww2 guns lol. Looks GREAT! I want to say that Micheal Whitmann carried an mp41, i could be wrong though. Also if im not mistaken the Italians had their own sub machine guns. -Cary
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Post by Jager.Drü on Apr 29, 2007 3:45:08 GMT -5
Sure, they did. Bertta is Italian.
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Post by Cpl. Hicks on Apr 29, 2007 18:19:53 GMT -5
Very nice panzer, the collection looks awsome.
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Post by Gordak on Apr 29, 2007 23:56:26 GMT -5
awesome!!!!!!!
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Post by panzer13 on Apr 30, 2007 13:14:00 GMT -5
thanks guys
the 2 non airsofts are the obvious ones..though i wish they were ...
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Post by CharleyNovember on Apr 30, 2007 14:03:02 GMT -5
I have a Sumi(SP) Finnish wood stock what do you guys think of this mod into that wood stock is it worth doing or should I get an actual MP41 stock? I like the look of the MP41 just not sure if it would be right for my paratrooper uniform? By late war FJ were using anything and everything though.
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Post by 2ndranger on Apr 30, 2007 16:35:53 GMT -5
Im thinking of doing an Italian para impression...But I want to make a beretta machine gun...that looks alot like the beretta machine gun...I wonder...its just the barrel is different.
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Post by mccallion on Apr 30, 2007 18:15:49 GMT -5
awsome nice work great mp41
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Post by Tough Ombre on Apr 30, 2007 18:29:41 GMT -5
Sure, they did. Bertta is Italian. What i meant, is i think they used their own machinegun lol. Im not one to research Germans and Italians much, though. I always thought that the Italians didnt use german stuff much. -Cary
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Post by spitfire740 on Apr 30, 2007 20:29:22 GMT -5
no, Italians rarely used anything German. But the Germans took alot of Italian equipment especially after the armistace.
And the beretta has 2 triggers, one for full auto and one for semi auto. I don't know how this could be converted, but where there's a will, there's a way! But other than that it is very similar. I WANT ONE!!!
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Post by panzer13 on Apr 30, 2007 21:08:17 GMT -5
are you a fan of side mounted magazine ?
the mp28 , the mp18 bergmann both have side mounts for the magwells.. and did someone say ..the mp34
I forget the name (possibly a lancaster?) even though its not axis it would be an easy conversion as there are complete dummy guns avail every where
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Post by indy on May 1, 2007 9:05:29 GMT -5
are you a fan of side mounted magazine ? the mp28 , the mp18 bergmann both have side mounts for the magwells.. and did someone say ..the mp34 I forget the name (possibly a lancaster?) even though its not axis it would be an easy conversion as there are complete dummy guns avail every where Nice work on the MP41, perhaps you can get a German police impression going. You're thinking of the Lanchester, it's pretty much the same thing as an MP18, the stock is a little different, the sights are a little different, as is the bayonet lug and a few other things, but all can be converted. I have thought about it for my WWI impression. it would also be good for very early WWII.
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Post by panzer13 on May 2, 2007 12:37:27 GMT -5
yep thats it ..
IMA sells them with solid dummy receivers bit find a pipe and a mechbox and things could start rolling
I personally love all side mount magwells (sorry Brits) except the sten
just doesnt look right to me ..being all pipe esp the mk2 with the T-bar stock. Ive got a friend with a RS(semi auto) ,16 " barrel sten and its quite odd looking
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Post by Ian on Aug 12, 2008 19:45:59 GMT -5
After recieving a catalog from src (star rainbow company), I have learned that there is a mp41 soon to come out with a price tag around 200$. The stock is real wood, the body is full metal, it accepts a mini type battery in the upper reciever just like the agm version, the gearbox is full metal with 8mm bearings, high torque motor, and im pretty sure that the gb is ver. 3 so the parts shouldnt be to hard to get. Src will also be making a regular mp40 (lets hope its better than the agm version). These two are both sure heads up for those axis airsoft fans out there! I have no idea about performance, reliability, range, fps, etc.
Star rainbow company is a company with few models available (around 20 different ones) but i have heard those models to be very nicely made. this company is based in taiwan and has been around for 15 years even though there name isnt one of the more mentioned of the pack. I'm definately buying the mp41 when it comes out.
p.s. im 13...... if anyone wants to play a ww2 game with a 13 year old let me know.... I doubt theres anyone though
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Aug 14, 2008 10:25:54 GMT -5
Ian I am 13 too and you can play in a WWII game. Just act maturely, build a good Impression(WWII Uniform) and people will respect you and be happy to play with you.
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Post by Ian on Aug 14, 2008 23:25:12 GMT -5
Thanks man! now if i could only find people in texas willing to play a ww2 airsoft game or any airsoft game for that matter..... And an update on the src mp41 soon to come out: ( i may have mention the below in the first post.....) real wood stock full metal gearbox aluminum spring guide with bearing aluminum double O-ring piston head with bearing double O-ring metal cylendar head aluminum nozzle with O-ring medium size high torque motor and 8mm bearings but thats just the gearbox! wait till you hear this! IT IS A BLOWBACK AEG!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEHAW ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D (no not gas powered.... they attached a thing to the piston and connected it to the bolt similar to what this kid did in this video on youtube..... www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihk3BHXu4S4 .......... this thing is gonna be so awesome when src comes out with it! But then theres the issue of getting my hands on it.... you will probably have to find a way to either order it off teir website or find an american website that sells src (which i have yet to find although i have not gone looking). The mp41 had a selector switch in ww2, the mp40 did not. The src version of the mp40 does not give it a selector switch but they dont give the mp41 a selector switch either... i guess you could do some welding and make one to where it could shoot in semi but so much time for a tiny detail that doesnt make too much of a difference? youd have to be crazy... overall, this appears to be a promising gun, and if its not ill just slap in a new gearbox if the one it comes with craps out on me... (i'm pretty sure the gun comes with a version 3 ?) if not then itll still be a great wall hanger..... oh yea and another thing that looked pretty neat.... src has already come out with an ak 47 (para version folding stock) made entirely of 24karat gold (except for gearbox and grips) grips are made of metal pretty cool thing to look into if you have a giant wad of money just sitting around anyone know where you can get a small 82nd uniform? thnks
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Post by holtzmann on Aug 19, 2008 14:28:07 GMT -5
I thought the mp41 was a captured ppsh41 with a wooden stock (just a throw together conversion if only specific things broke on each).
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Post by Garrick Udet on Aug 19, 2008 15:29:43 GMT -5
I believe the captured PPsh that was converted to use stick mags was designated MP-41r or something to that effect.
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Post by Rekkon on Aug 19, 2008 15:59:29 GMT -5
Garrick is correct, though MP-41(r)s were PPShs converted to fire German ammunition. I believe the Soviets had their own box/stick mags for the weapon.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Aug 24, 2008 18:06:22 GMT -5
They would still use the standard MP40 stick mags. As soviet mags can't hold 9mm.
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