Carbine AEG

[101steasykid]

I was wondering if anyone would help me on turning a m1 carbine into an AEG, ive been told by several people that you could probably fit a tokyo marui mp 7 motor into it. I never really got past that from anyone. I want to know what materials ill need such as tools, will i need a new hop up, or barrel, and all those sorts of things. I think this could really work and would be awesome on the battlefield, if not, worth a try ;D

[2nd Bat]

Great idea and one that would be extremely well recieved, if done well. I just got a report from Schmitty (our resident custom gun expert) that unless he can figure something highly creative out, even the small MP7 internals are too big for a carbine stock. To say I was a little bummed to hear that is an understatement. He bought the MP7 specifically with that in mind and from my perspective if he can't do it, it can't be done!

I'm sure he'll find a home for it (The MP7) in something cool and WW2 specific. I'm trying to convince him to formalize his Grease gun AEG design but he's unsure there is a market for it in the $500.00 plus range which is probably where he'd need to be for it to make a good business case.

Pitty as he does an incredible job and I love mine. I would think there might be a limited market and that he could sell perhaps a dozen throughout the world. The other thought he has and has done several of us is the MP40 using the MPC cap gun bodies as a base. They are an excellent replica and his modified versions are the best MP40 I've seen on the field. His fear there is about the time he got his done an affordable, functional one, will become available. God knows the TOP doesn't fit that description.

[commandercolt]

That's a shame Schmitty is reluctant to make a few of his excellent customs for the market. I'm quite sure he'd be able to sell at least 20 units of either the grease gun or mp40. For what it's worth, I'd purchase either.

[101steasykid]

Hey schmitty, if you read this, I WOULD BY A M3 AEG GREASE GUN FROM YOU FOR 400 or 500 BUCKS!!!!!!!!!! or a AEG M1 CARBINE FOR 500-600 BUCKS!!!!!! (if it can be done ofcourse)

[schmitty]

Marushin carbine=$250 plus shipping + MP7= $220+ shipping+other parts needed estimate $75= $585 in parts alone. Even if I figure out a way to make a AEG carbine I couldn't do it for $600 or less.

I'm more of an R&D guy. I like the challenge of making something work but not the tediousness of mass production. Probably the best I can offer is advice on how to duplicate what I've done and maybe I'll sell the occasional custom.

Schmitty

[CharleyNovember]

I'm more of an R&D guy. I like the challenge of making something work but not the tediousness of mass production. Probably the best I can offer is advice on how to duplicate what I've done and maybe I'll sell the occasional custom.

Yep that sums me up aswell. Schmitty has much more experience then me. but I like the challenge of doing one and figuring it out. Doing another just like it doesn't provide a challenge like the first one did and you can't really charge enough to cover your time normally. My day job pays an awful lot for my time So working on something that doesn't seem fun is screwing myself.

[101steasykid]

OKay, so the stock is too small for the battery, and motor, why not like split the battery into two, and place it into a mag pouch on the stock of the carbine, i ran the idea through mango, and he says it would work, and its a great idea! I knew study hall would help me somehow, haha. Also mango thought of putting the battery into carbine mags to conseal them, if you opened the mag pouch

[2nd Bat]

It's important that folks consider the simple economics of these things and start to realize why things have to cost what they do.

It was always my hope that some of Schmittys creations could be available to folks who were in the "gotta have it mode and can afford to get it mode" by finalizing a design and then figuring out a way to job the work out so a final fixed cost could be established. That way folks would know what their cost would be and any sales could be accomodated in such a way that Schmitty or Dan for that matter could focus their creative energies where they want to and enjoy some financial reward for their efforts,

Obviously one way to minimize cost is to acquire toes up carbines and grease gun bodies and use those for the base endeavor. (doesn't work however when you attempt to build in any kind of volume.) Even using derelict bodies ($100.00?) when you add in the labor for the modification at a reasonable hourly rate it adds up pretty quick. Sadly once again it becomes apparent why these custom guns often run in the $1200 to $2,000 range if they are availbale at all.

[101steasykid]

yeah, 2nd bat is right, it was only a suggestion, i thought it was a go except for space, so i gave an idea for space, i only can like spend 600, maybe 800 at the most but thats pushing it since i dont even buy guitars for that much!

[29ththerealpimps]

That usi thing that Nick brought to the battle might have a small enough motor it was a very very good gun to.It shot like a thompson. Nick what brand makes it and where can we get the motor?

[101steasykid]

who is this nick kid anyway? nick if you see this please responde

[2nd Bat]

The batteries aren't the problem in the case of the carbine it's simply the fact that you can only hollow out the wood stock so much and there simply isn't the neccessary height for any of the current mech boxes available even the MP7 which is as tiny as they get. The battery would probably have been configured inside a hollowed out stock which would have been tight but certainly would be doable.

[101steasykid]

oh, okay, sorry 2nd

[29ththerealpimps]

but seriously the motor in nicks (jaeger) gun has to be tiny as they get

[Nimlas]

29ththerealpimps said:

but seriously the motor in nicks (jaeger) gun has to be tiny as they get

It's still bigger than a carbine receiver, do you think some one hasn't thought if that already?
Golden rule-If schmitty can't make one, no one can ;D

Let's keep this thread clean, the one sentence response are starting to make it look like AIM. AIM is free, download it if you want to do that.

[29ththerealpimps]

yea true

[101steasykid]

haha, 29th, didnt you just read his post up above? well anyway, i might just settel for my thompson this christmas, i mean nothing wrong with it, its just im more fond of rifles than SMG's and i dont really like gas guns, and i think 2nd's garands' are neat, but i would rather get the gas, since it has more realstic features, not bat's fault, just because of its gas powered, and his is AEG. Well i hope that one day Schmitty will find out how to make it and AEG, if not, thanks for considering it guys.

[schmitty]

Thanks everyone for putting so much faith in me but just because I can't or won't do something certainly doesn't mean it can't be done, 2nd bat, AADan and Gordak have turned out some great custom work. Anything is possible if you want it bad enough.

I bought an MP-7 in the hopes that the tiny gearbox could EASILY be adapted to fit the M3 grease gun or M1 Carbine. Well It won't easily fit either but would definetly work in the Grease gun with some modification and could probably be made to fit the carbine with a lot of effort. Since I usually go British or German these guns aren't prioritys for me.

Although I realy like the Marui Uzi (I assume that's what 29th meant?), its gearbox isn't very suitable for custom guns.

Schmitty

[29ththerealpimps]

yes I think it was a marui uzi I am not sure though

[101steasykid]

yeah, i guess i could work on the m1 over this summer, as a good project! haha