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Post by johnyopportunity on Nov 9, 2006 21:53:37 GMT -5
Ya, I will be building a Sten gun using a parts kit and an Asahi Super Sterling with LRB.
Some ?'s I know several places to get MKIII parts kits but does anyone know where to get a MKII or MKV? Schmitty, how long are the barrels on your MKII and MKV?
-Will
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Post by schmitty on Nov 11, 2006 12:16:27 GMT -5
It seems MkII and Mk V parts kits have gotten a little hard to find (and expensive ) When I bought my Mk II it was about $30. Here's one source for MkII kits: www.aa-ok.com/othergun.htmwww.stenparts.com is a good source for parts (but no kits). also IMA (International Military Antiques) usually has parts kits but is out of stock at the momment. I assume you want to know the length of the inner airsoft barrel? I don't recall exactly and would have to dismantle a gun to check but I think it was between 7-8" I just cut down whatever I had. Schmitty
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Post by johnyopportunity on Nov 11, 2006 14:25:30 GMT -5
Thanks Schmitty but that is a little expensive. I do recall IMA having the parts kits a wile back and will e-mail them to see if they think they will get more in. If not I will get a MKIII here, www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=222996 Would a MKII tube fit on this MKIII? Will I have to weld the mag well to the tube? Thanks, -Will
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Post by schmitty on Nov 12, 2006 2:37:29 GMT -5
A MkII tube will not fit a MkIII. The MkIII is constructed a bit diferently than the others in that the tube has a long seam running the entire top length (as well as being a different length). If you replace the tube it is possible to reassmble the gun without any welding.
Schmitty
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Post by johnyopportunity on Nov 18, 2006 14:29:06 GMT -5
Well it does not look like I will be able to get the Asahi sterling any more so do you think the Marui MP-7 gear box would fit?
-will
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Post by schmitty on Nov 19, 2006 19:36:39 GMT -5
The mp-7 gearbox would fit but because the mag well is pretty far forward on the sten the nozzle would have to be extended and that can be a bit tricky. I did make a MkII sten that uses a TM verIII gearbox.
Schmitty
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Post by johnyopportunity on Dec 15, 2006 14:53:21 GMT -5
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Post by schmitty on Dec 18, 2006 11:17:51 GMT -5
It depends what impression you are going for: Mk V =British paratrooper. Mk III= Canadian or other common wealth forces. Of course by the end of the war all types of sten guns where showing up everywhere. Schmitty
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Post by DeB on Feb 1, 2007 15:03:07 GMT -5
Hi all, I like very much a Sten MkII, i was wondering if a new AGM (s-3) MP40 gearbox will fit inside it, and how can I do a horizontal Hi-capacity magazine???
Have you never thought about it? Bye bye! Thanks! Marco
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Post by Russianboy on Feb 1, 2007 15:16:17 GMT -5
what are you doing for mags?
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Post by indy on Feb 1, 2007 21:01:05 GMT -5
I would say go with the Mark III, that is my favorite sten. ;D
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Post by johnyopportunity on Feb 1, 2007 23:31:23 GMT -5
I am still weighting for my Sterling to come in. I should be making a MK III. I could not make high caps for mine but for an AEG it would work, just need to cut and twist the hop up unit if you want one.
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Post by schmitty on Feb 5, 2007 22:36:49 GMT -5
AEG mags and Gas gun mags are basically the same. Making a horizontal High cap that feeds consistently well is very difficult. I did make one once it had a spring loaded wall inside that pushed the BB's towards the high cap mechanism much like a TM P-90 mag (which don't feed that great either). It worked somewhat but I was never happy with it. I would say stick to low or mid caps.
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Post by Russianboy on Feb 5, 2007 22:51:04 GMT -5
A BV unit has to be air tight, its nothing like a AEG mag...
Johny, Take the guts from the Sterling mag and to remake tubeing use a 8-10 mm hose. Then when you have every thing set up right you can put the guts in a real mag shell.
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Post by schmitty on Feb 6, 2007 18:10:34 GMT -5
Oh.. I see. I have no expereience with the BV system. I have never even seen one. Is air pressure supplied to the magazine?
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Post by Russianboy on Feb 6, 2007 18:20:06 GMT -5
No not even that, the gas is in a external tank (On the JAC M16 series gas can be put into the stock but only last a short time, most make it shoot from a external rig). If you want some more info on this. I have a link that should help tell you. Its hard too tell some one over the internet how they work. www.classicairsoft.net/images/bv.htm
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Post by TommyGunner on Feb 7, 2007 1:38:23 GMT -5
I say if your going to all that trouble to make a Sten than make a crap load of reall cap mags to go with it. Having to use only reall caps really makes you re-think your style and stratigies of playing airsoft.
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Post by johnyopportunity on Feb 7, 2007 12:01:55 GMT -5
I would love to make alot of reall cap mags but I need the tops of the sterling mags for it to be air tight. Mags are hard to find and go for 50-60 bucks each. Has anyone ever seen a drum mag for the sten? ;D
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Post by TommyGunner on Feb 7, 2007 12:25:09 GMT -5
Oh so your making a gas powered Sten? Im sorry I was under the impression it was AEG, now I can see why making a Highcap would be benificial it would ofset the cost of making a ton of reall caps for a ton of money.
Also I dont think I have ever seen a drum mag for a sten, it would kinda make it awkward to hold and fire.
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Post by DeB on Feb 7, 2007 13:39:30 GMT -5
Hi! Yes maybe a low cap will be tha way....
to make the mags for the sten it would be possible to cut some metal sheet and weld them together, then put in it some kind of low cap internals (I don't know, maibe modified UZI or modified MP5(it's curved...))
For my future MP40 I was wondering to do in this way and to make a drum magazine, even if it is not realistic.... Bye bye!
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Post by Russianboy on Feb 7, 2007 16:08:03 GMT -5
A BV unit has to be air tight AEG and other gas mags will not work... No Hi-cap can be made...
John, get the asahi 50 round mags dont take away the 100 round ones and just waste them there are only soo meany in the world. I'm sure if you use space wisely a 150 mag can be made. You may run into some lag in the mag if your mags hold too much ammo. There is a valve that alot of the guys use on Asahi M249 that keeps the mags pressurized.... You May or may not need this.
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Post by lollipops hunter33 on Feb 12, 2007 17:29:53 GMT -5
Schmitty lets see some pics of your stens, I am very interested.
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Post by applestrudel on Mar 24, 2007 15:44:06 GMT -5
an m14 gearbox would probably fit in a a sten.
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Post by killbucket on Apr 12, 2007 21:43:53 GMT -5
Hands down, the mp40 fits best...I have been looking intently at old info on these. Schmitty has made us all copycats on this one already....
Some mfg'r HAS to do the STEN.......The market would be Huge. Maybe a few more months of case after case of MP40's flies off shelves, a whole lot of thes "obscure guns will surfact. I want a Solothurn, fer instance, and a PPSH.
Somehow, I think I'm going to need to learn molding and casting soon.
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Post by DeB on Apr 13, 2007 2:29:49 GMT -5
I think that a Mp40 gearbox won't get inside a Sten MkII because of the sloped receiver before the mag catch...
Maybe it will fit but you shoul eliminate o reduce the sloped effect...
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Post by schmitty on Apr 13, 2007 11:57:51 GMT -5
Tis true, The AGM MP-40 gearbox looks a lot like the modified Ver III gearbox's I was building years ago to fit Stens, PPSH-41 and other stuff. If I was going to do it again I would start with the AGM box although some of the outer case would need to be cut away to fit in a Sten.
There is no Drum mag for Stens but there is the 50 round Lanchester mag that was longer than the 32 round Sten mag but fits the same.
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Post by DeB on Apr 15, 2007 10:39:19 GMT -5
... cut the outer case of the gearbox... maybe the zone nearby the contacts and make the electrical switch over the trigger. MAke it full auto (had sten a selector???)
Bye bye!
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Post by applestrudel on Apr 15, 2007 12:50:59 GMT -5
sten mk5 had a selector I don't know about the other marks!
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