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Post by vince on Feb 26, 2006 15:12:27 GMT -5
Hmmmm.... Stole my idea he did!  Except he took the easy way out and used a star 249 box. All I had was a veresion 2. He also chopped up some of the real parts to get there too. But I like that full aluminum 1919. Talk about lightweight! |
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Post by Guinness on Feb 26, 2006 17:10:09 GMT -5
I think it said "bare aluminum and steel" Vince, but it will certainly be lighter than the real-steel. And they also said "local manufacturer" and then had references to CA....hmmmmm  Could a WWII line be in Classic Army's future??? That...would......ROCK! can you say Tommy Gun and maybe even a BAR?? hmm maybe we should start a letter writing campaign.  -G |
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Post by savoy6 on Feb 26, 2006 23:01:03 GMT -5
the trigger should move in a back and forth manner...
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Post by silencer on Feb 26, 2006 23:09:05 GMT -5
I agree guiness, we should start a letter writing campaign! Maybe if one of use can speak Japanese the major manufacturers will listen! Serriously, Im with you.
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Post by Guinness on Feb 26, 2006 23:16:06 GMT -5
I believe the mfg's considering this are in Hong Kong, so it'd be better to brush up on your Mandarin Chinese -G |
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Post by schmitty on Feb 27, 2006 1:40:38 GMT -5
This doesn't seem to fit with other info I have seen. In this picture from the m1919a4 web site it looks like the trigger pivots from a point a few inches from the rear of the receiver in mostly an up and down plane. www.1919a4.com/tutorials/tutorial-spring.aspMy m1919 didn't come with the lock frame (that the trigger pivots from) but does have the trigger and you can see wear on it like it moves up and down, but no sign that it moves fore and aft (in relation to the barrel). If someone can clarify this please speak up. I'd hate to think I built mine wrong. Schmitty
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Post by vince on Feb 27, 2006 2:28:46 GMT -5
Yes it does pivot in a se-saw type manner. It seems strange when youre looking at it, but when you take ahold of the grip you realize how diagonal your hand is pointing, so it feels quite natural. Its basically the same principle as the rear trigger on a side by side shotgun. It feels right when youre holding it, but It actually pivots more upward than it does rearward.
That is exactly how I designed my trigger mechanism in my airsoft version as well. Just a pivoting point, and two copper contacts. That simple.
My kit actually came wilth absolutely ALL of the parts minus the RSP. When I first got it, I put it all together, and even without the side plate to hold all of the parts in, I could rack the bolt, and dry fire the gun. But This was mainly doable because there was still a piece of the side plate left riveted to the bottom frame. But is was REALLY cool though, because you could see all the parts interacting, and understand each action of each particular part. And when I cycled through some fired .308 blanks, it was really interesting to see how each cartrige was pulled from the belt, chembered, struck, and extracted, through all the cyclic motion.
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Post by schmitty on Feb 27, 2006 11:08:51 GMT -5
Thanks for clearing that up Vince. I got my M1919 in a trade with 2nd bat and it was already somewhat assembled as a dummy gun with no internal parts (except the trigger). The good thing was that it has all the A6 parts (flash hider, carry handle, bipod and stock) Some of which are a little hard to find. Unlike yourself I have cut several real parts to maximize its usage as an airsoft gun although I certainly understand your logic in keeping the parts original.
I agree that it is fascinating to watch all the monkey motion of a working machine gun. There is a lot going on inside. I had a PM1910 Maxim that could cycle rounds manually.
Schmitty
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 28, 2006 16:11:39 GMT -5
Glad you sorted out the question on the trigger. As you correctly surmised it functioned in a somewhat "teeter/totter" sort of way. The finished product looks awesome and is very cleverly configured.
Great job!!!!! The good news about your completely gutted MG is you aren't likely to have issues with the ATF which in Washington State more so then other states has the potential to be a issue. The fewer actual internal parts you have in your possession the better. Especially since you fabricated a right side plate. I really like the way you included a functional bolt handle even if it is just cosmetic.
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