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Post by indy on Mar 19, 2006 1:06:55 GMT -5
Dumb question maybe....but will my Palmers stabalizer fit to a standard 4500 psi HPA tank? I used it with CO2 on my Asahi MP40 but did not get the consistancy I was looking for.
One more thing...for filling the HPA tank back up is it as simple as taking it to a dive shop and getting a refill like the CO2?
Thanks
Thomas
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Post by AAdan on Mar 19, 2006 7:17:19 GMT -5
Shouldn't have a problem using your palmers with the 4500 tank. Generally speaking you can't get more consistant than Palmers. Second part depends on your local area dive shops I know some scuba shops that would fill HPA tanks when I lived in florida but normally they are not equiped or do not want to fill those tanks. Paintball shops generally can hook you up.
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Post by indy on Mar 19, 2006 10:40:47 GMT -5
Cool! Thank you.
Cheers
Thomas
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Post by Gordak on Mar 20, 2006 14:44:19 GMT -5
Here is my post on seting up hpa that was on page 2 of the tech section. Seek and ye shall find.
GO hpa, co2 will barely work, you wontbe happy with co2.
Regulator - call 1916-923-9676 ask for a Palmers female stabalizer set up for low pressure HPA/nitro airsoft guns. Tell them you want a 0 to 300 psi gauge. If they dont have the gauge, just get one at any paintball store.
they take all credit cards and they ship nice and quick. probalby around 90 bux after shipping.
Next you need macroline and fittings,
Get the all silver all metal fitting that are avalible at paintball stores, the ones with the colored plastic dont work. You want it to fit 6mm plastic hose.
Macro line, (small 6mm hose) at painball stores was too hard, I have macro line for sale if you cant get any, its cheap.
SOme say the best macro line is the extreamly flexible japanese type. this type often does not hold well in american connectors.
Macmaster carr sells the best 6mm macro line hose.
my favorite is rated for 175 psi, with a 1mm wall.
macmaster carr west of Chicago off 290 also carries the better fittings. they have a web site.
wanna get all the goodies?
Get a remote coil hose $35 bux at a painbal store, and a clyndrical quick disconnect (discount paint ball $50) some personal ingenueaty and youll have it all together.
you should spend $150 to $190 on your air tank, hopfully 4500 psi, but 3000 is liveable if its nice and big.
The nice thing is once u have this rig, you can use it on all your classic guns, so its only a one time cost.
take your time, and youll get it going at minimal cost.
-Gordak
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Post by indy on Mar 20, 2006 16:35:14 GMT -5
Splendid. I will certainly do this.
Thanks
Thomas
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Post by indy on Mar 20, 2006 16:56:51 GMT -5
Just to make sure....other than the stabilizer and tank....am I set with this or is there more?....
Metric Glass-Filled Nylon Instant Fitting Male Straight Adapter for 6mm Tube, 1/8" BSPT
Gearless 304Ss Case Gauge 2% Mid-Accuracy 1-1/2" Dial, 1/8" NPT Male Center Back, 0-300 PSI
Extendable Nylon 11 Tubing .170" Id, 1/4" Od, .04" Wall, Black, 9" Length (Same as 5040K57)
Nickel-Plated Mini Quick-Disconnect Coupling Socket X 5/32" Tube Id, with Shut-Off Valve
Nickel-Plated Mini Quick-Disconnect Coupling Plug X 5/32" Tube Id, Straight Through
Thanks again
Thomas
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 23, 2006 5:20:21 GMT -5
What would you guess is the availabilty of 8mm tubing and barrel material? I'm asking as I'm seriously thinking about a .50 Cal and it only seems right that that bad boy should be 8mm!
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Post by johnyopportunity on Mar 25, 2006 22:44:08 GMT -5
So. co2 is a liquid in the tank and is turned into a gas.. So is hpa a gas in the tank and stays a gas? That is what they have at a near by paintball store and I was wondering if they are one in the same, the tanks are $170 and they run at I think 4500 psi but the paintball guy had never heard of hpa.
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Post by indy on Mar 25, 2006 23:14:29 GMT -5
A guy I know who is into classics as well said that CO2 and HPA make no difference here in Arizona (due to the fact that it is so hot....110-115 F in the summer). I am going to stick with CO2.
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Post by johnyopportunity on Mar 25, 2006 23:20:16 GMT -5
Yes that makes sense I live in Oklahoma and the forecast for this summer looks hot hot hot.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Mar 26, 2006 10:35:25 GMT -5
You will get more shoots per fill out of a CO2 tank then HPA. HPA is more stable as it is a gas in the tank and remains a gas the whole time. CO2 is a liquid in the bottom of your tank. Should some of that liquid get into your gun then it will flash to gas and cause a velocity spike. With a palmers you are very unlikely to have that happen. Also with the heat you are having you are probally not going to have a cool down effect where your tank/reg/gun start frosting up and causeing velocity flux.
If the guy at the PB store doesn't know what HPA is then they might be a new store.
HPA=HighPressureAir
They also call it Nitro=Nitrogen tanks not Nitrous
Those two are interchangeable jargon that mean the same thing in the PB world.
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Post by HellRazor on Mar 26, 2006 11:51:08 GMT -5
Other thing is, depending on what your using it with, if you do short contolled bursts your cool down effect will be minimized. I know its one of our guys Sun Project M16s, after the first 3 rounds or so in full auto, you can watch the rounds start falling closer and closer.... That is during the winter however.
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