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Post by Sascha Gusdorf on May 12, 2006 22:18:24 GMT -5
Hi All, Ben here. Well, my Hudson Grease Gun came in yesterday. It shot great................for one round, that is. Yes, I did say one round. The magazine seems to be restricting the .25g BBs that I have loaded up inside. Immediatly, when one round fires, the next round seems to not load out of the magazine and into the chamber. In fact, when I took the magazine out of the gun, and looked into it, I noticed that the BBs stayed "stuck" inside, and didn't seem to want to get out into (for lack of a better term) the exit hole . Could anyone help me with this situation? :-/I really do love the Grease Gun; I always have. Some have even suggested that I should file down certain parts of the Magazine; others have suggested that I only use 134 Gas and not Green Gas (I know; silliness on my part . Trust me fellas; any thoughts or suggestions would be fantastic! Really and truly, I'm even willing to send the gun to you (the experienced "Airsofter") to fix my problem, and give you a couple of bucks to fix my ordeal. Let me know your thoughts guys; I'd really appreciate it. Oh yeah, please don't suggest me sending it back to the company; this helps no one.----Ben
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Post by TastesLikeChicken on May 12, 2006 22:33:37 GMT -5
have you been able to get the bb's out of the mag? and if so, have you tried firing smaller rounds?
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Post by Sascha Gusdorf on May 12, 2006 22:37:37 GMT -5
...like I said, I was able to get one of the BBs to fire, but that was it. You're saying that maybe I should be using smaller BBs? Hummmm......... ? I'm using .25g. Should I use........what?
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Post by sabrepilot9000 on May 12, 2006 23:05:32 GMT -5
Ben, I'd try using some silicon lube inside there. just put a little on the inner walls where the bbs rub against on their way up to the nozzle. I've had to do that with one or two of my guns and it seemed to work. Then again taking some very fine emery cloth and rubbing it a little on those inner walls (if it's possible to get acces inside there. I dont own a grease gun so im not too experienced with it) may also give the bbs some more area for smoother movement. Also, try using Airsoft Elite BB's as they have a much more consistent size from one bb to the next. That could help as well since the BB's would be fairly similar to each other, so no inconsistencies in size that would assist in jamming them together as you had mentioned. Besides, AE bb's are all I use and they can give better results overall when fired as well ;D. Hope this helps.
-David
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 13, 2006 0:44:12 GMT -5
I suggest lightly filing the inner circumfrance of the magazine where it's hanging up. Take it a little at a time until the BBs roll in and out. Retrack the spring hold it upside down and with a little tilt and mild shaking the BBs should roll out on their own. certainly not something you should have to send out for.
BBs do vary a tiny bit in terms of overall size according to brand and even within various Bbs in the same bag. (tiny tiny variation but some nonetheless.) I find that some of my guns do better on some brand of BBs then others. The Grease gun should do fine with everything but cheap .12 gram super light BBs. I seem to recall I fired .20 gram out of mine. Airsoft Elite Brand.
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Post by 101st all the way! on May 13, 2006 18:52:47 GMT -5
Dude I had the same problem. I did everything everbody said to do. I finally had to send it back about a month ago and the guy still hasn't sent it back fixed he says he's busy. Thats Depot 53 for ya their repair service sucks
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Post by Capt. Zak on May 15, 2006 8:00:18 GMT -5
I fixed 2 of my mags by carefully examining the slots where the bb's feed and using a dremel tool to remove any burrs. Then I put a little dab of silicone oil and let it run down the slot. I have never had a problem after that. One thing though, after an event you have to make sure that no dust has collected in the slot. If so, you'll need a pipe cleaner to swab out the slot. A "higher quality" bb helps as well. And for the love of GOD...don't use those cheap bb's they sell at Target, Walmart & sporting good stores.
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Post by savoy6 on May 15, 2006 9:23:25 GMT -5
this could just be a problem with the BB channel in the mag which can be solved as stated with some filing.could also be the feed spring getting hung on something as well.make sure it will travel freely up and down the length of the mag.some silicone sounds like a good starting point. now for my other thought.....you haven't run any green gas in it right?does it just fire one round and then have to be re-cocked?
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Post by Sascha Gusdorf on May 15, 2006 11:57:58 GMT -5
Did I run Green Gas in it? Well.....................ummmm..........maybe. Yeah, I sure did. When I bought the gun, the gentleman said that running a few mags with Green Gas won't be a problem; although, he did in fact suggest that I run it with 134 in the future. In your oppinion, could this have contributed to the Magazine's failure?
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 15, 2006 14:46:19 GMT -5
It sounds like a feeding issue rather then a gas problem. Green gas if it caused a problem would blow the seals out of the magazine or more likely destroy the bolt blow back mechanism inside your gun rather then cause a BB to fail to roll through the end hole. I still think your magazine feed well needs a tiny bit of filing or your spring channel is snagging on something.
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Post by Gordak on May 16, 2006 20:52:24 GMT -5
green gas is fine in the magazine, it just shatters the bolt Look for hairline cracks when you take the bolt out. -Gordak
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Post by savoy6 on May 17, 2006 7:07:41 GMT -5
green gas didn't shatter my bolt...just completely wore of the tabs that catch the nozzle as the bolt recoils....so it stays forward and pops out of the bolt then jams as the bolt goes forward...what you get is just one round firing then you have to wedge the bolt back onto it to get it to close...
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Post by taylor on May 17, 2006 11:57:16 GMT -5
I had a similar problem when I bought my Greasegun new back in Feb with 2 extra mags. Had feeding issues until I put a good coat of silicon in each mag. Did what a previous person recommended..... I put the spray tube into the spring opening and did a very quick spray up the entire length of the mag. Did that to each and they worked fine after that.
I also tried .25's and they didn't work well. Also tried some cheaper .20's with less success. Eventually used Excell .20's and they worked fine.
The difference in .25's & .20's is in weight, not size. They're all 6mm in diameter. Quality of bb can make a difference though. I'd try the spray first and only use the Green Gas in cold weather if at all.
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Post by Sascha Gusdorf on May 25, 2006 23:40:25 GMT -5
GREAT NEWS FELLAS!!! I did what you all recommended; I sprayed a little Remmington Silicon on the mags; used some 134 Gas instead of the Green Gas, and it shoots like a charm. Now, all I needa' do is fix that damn accuracy problem. The gun's accuracy is terrible, but needless to say........Thanks a bunch guys; you've all been a fantastic help!--Ben Bernard
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 30, 2006 16:08:54 GMT -5
Accuracy? Accuracy? It supposed to represent a grease gun how much more accurate can it get? Not being able to hit a man sized target at 50 feet is darn accurate when trying to represent a Grease gun!
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Post by Gordak on May 30, 2006 17:46:49 GMT -5
LOL yes, accuracy would be inaccurate did that thompson spoil you?? I had a theory that green gas makes the bolt move too fast for the bb to reach the chamber, perhaps its true.
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Post by Sascha Gusdorf on May 30, 2006 22:07:38 GMT -5
Hey Sam and John! Ben here. Yeah, I must say, the Thompson did, in fact, spoil the living Hell outta' me (ha-ha). Boy, that's a sexy gun! As for the Grease Gun's accuracy, I guess it would be considered the most realistic version of the WWII/Vietnam era pieces -- shootin' terribly (hee-hee).
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