Sturmmann13
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Post by Sturmmann13 on Feb 28, 2007 21:03:54 GMT -5
I want to know if there is a conversion that you can make a m-14 into a G- 43
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Post by CharleyNovember on Feb 28, 2007 21:08:24 GMT -5
there is not one currently available.
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Post by 2ndranger on Feb 28, 2007 21:09:45 GMT -5
As AAdan stated, there is none currently available but noone said you cant try. Its just that G43 parts are so expensive and rare.
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Russianboy
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Post by Russianboy on Feb 28, 2007 21:18:02 GMT -5
I would get a Shoei PFC one and use Tanaka sniper rifle parts.
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Post by Gordak on Feb 28, 2007 21:30:16 GMT -5
the shoei costs more than a real one...  I think a marui m14 would be the best candidate. -Gordak |
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Post by Nimlas on Feb 28, 2007 21:31:54 GMT -5
Get a beater G43 with mismatched parts and the crappy SARCO mags.
The mags are the expensive part.
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Post by Ersatzjack on Feb 28, 2007 23:13:21 GMT -5
NOOOOO! Heresy!! Don't destroy a real G-43 to make an airsoft conversion. Pay extra for the Shoei or what have you but leave the few remaining real steel G43's alone. Wouldn't you rather work over a Mosin-Nagant? Think about it. But, if you must... There are reproduction stocks out there for several hundred dollars and many parts are reproduction too. I could sign on (morally speaking) if you limited a conversion to reproduction parts and duct tape.  |
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 1, 2007 1:52:30 GMT -5
Knock yourself out Ersatzjack we'll patiently wait on your results. A key challenge with the adaptation. (There are several hurdles) is the barrel comes out of the lower part of the receiver group and the magazine well is far forward of the trigger housing. As indicated even replica stock and hardware components are extremely expensive. This will not be a project for the meek or thrify
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Post by DeB on Mar 1, 2007 3:45:12 GMT -5
I will like to get converted a M14 into a G43 but the stock is quite different and maybe the motor had to be positioned in another angle...
The height of the receiver and the barrel I think it is different. I have some paper drawing any way do not ruin a REAL g43 to get a toy with it. Please.
I don't have a M14 gearboox uet so I cannot tried it...
Bye bye!
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Post by biged on Mar 1, 2007 5:03:16 GMT -5
Here's a pic of the V7 gearbox from a marui.  I think it may be to tall to fit inside due to the motor angle. ///ed/// |
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 2, 2007 16:20:27 GMT -5
I agree. These things are never of course easy. Again keep in mind that with the G43 the barrel is quite a bit lower relative to the receiver group in an M-14.
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Post by binarypunisher on Mar 2, 2007 17:20:09 GMT -5
I think the best way to do it would be to use a K98/Mauser stock, and put the TM internals in there. M14  G43:  K98 Stock:  |
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Post by Ungar on Mar 2, 2007 22:10:56 GMT -5
And when you mate a k98 stock with M14 internals-mag You get a Mauser manufactured G41:  |
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 3, 2007 1:06:19 GMT -5
If only it were all that simple!
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Post by Flippy on Jan 19, 2009 11:43:49 GMT -5
Maybe not a dead topic...   Ungarisch had great idea!!! It's about as difficult to make as my SKS... Base gun can be a Boyi plastic/metal Kar98K, and the non-removable magazine, the receiver cover, the slide, and the muzzle brake(or flash hider) can be maked... (there are many fine quality photos) but you don't have to modify the gearbox... which is important to me, beacuse modifyed gerboxes are theocretically not allowed on MASZ(hungarian airsoft association) games... I made a quick plan, with real sizes:  Maybe in the far future i'll make it... |
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Post by Ungar on Jan 19, 2009 12:05:16 GMT -5
It does look like it when mated.
But doing the deed is another thing.
The whole gun is different.
The M-14 receiver is not even close to the G41 or G43. The gas tubes are on the opposite sides..
The M-14 is much bulkier than the German rifle.
If someone manages to pull that mission off, my hats off to them
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jan 19, 2009 19:23:27 GMT -5
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Post by Flippy on Jan 20, 2009 5:07:02 GMT -5
You both may misuderstand me... I don't speak about G43, just G41; and I don't want to convert M14, I'll just use the internals... my quick-plan want to show that, the Dboyi Kar 98K is tall enough, to fit the V7 gearbox... so there are no cm differences just mms I want to convert a Dboyi Kar 98K to a G41(W)... they are similar:   And as I know the G41(W) don't have a "real" gastube: "utilizing the Bang-type annual gas pistons, located at the muzzle of the gun, within the relatively large muzzle cap" world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl12-e.htmBut with the receiver width you are right... I want to change the Dboyi Kar 98K's stock to a self made hard wood one... and I can cheet 5-5mm ath the both sides of the Dboyi Kar 98K's reciever... I can use the "blue" parts, and some custom made parts... this way is mucht easier than bulinding from nothing... and I still have a CYMA M14 gearbox in transport... All these are just plans, beacuse I have tonns of work with my sks... |
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Post by click on Jan 20, 2009 7:27:39 GMT -5
I am guessing the M14 guts will be to wide to fit into a K98 stock. Plus on the g41 the mag sits too far up to be replicated by an m14.
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Post by Flippy on Jan 20, 2009 12:18:45 GMT -5
The magazine problem will also occure by my SKS. Both SKS, and G41 had non-removable magazines, so I'll bore one excentric 6mm hole through the upside of the gun(by SKS under the iron sight, and it's in "switched up" position), and I'll feed the fix magazine with a speed loader from the upside of the gun(like the original one). The BBs fall into a built-in high cap wind-up magazine internal... it's in the magazine, that is loceted with screws, wherever you want... (naturally uder the hole ;D) For the Kar98K width I can't say anything(I don'have it), but if you don't stick to original Kar98K stock, and you make yourself a custom one, it can be wide enough... The slide, and reciver cover are similar wide like G43... and it exists alredy , with V7... These problems still solved there: ww2aa.proboards45.com/index.cgi?board=technical&action=display&thread=2528&page=2I agree this is a hard conversion , but the cheapest way to make G41...  |
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Post by hairy apple on Jan 20, 2009 16:34:31 GMT -5
With the g43 mag issue, could you not move the mag forward and yet keep it lined up with the hopup by simply spinning the magwell 180. The magazines would be put in backwards, but they would be in about the right place and would still be lined up with the hop. After reading this thread I went and took a good look at one of my m14s and I think it would work. I'm not sure if the k98 stock would be too thin that far forward however.
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Post by Flippy on Jan 21, 2009 8:05:24 GMT -5
Also a good idea(removable magazines provide better usage)... I'll stay at fix magazines, beacuse it's more simple to make, and its more realistic... |
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Post by vietnammarine on Feb 12, 2010 18:15:52 GMT -5
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Post by Fusilier on Feb 12, 2010 18:26:34 GMT -5
Holy crap,not bad! I have an extra repro G-41 stock if anyones interested. I'm still looking for the elusive bayonet lug for my real steel G-41.
And you think G-43 parts are hard to find!
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Post by hairy apple on Feb 12, 2010 21:55:56 GMT -5
Very impressive. Do you have photos of how you built it? I've been talking with a friend about trying to build one... we've been going back and forth about how to do it and it's cool to see one actually built. If you have more photos of your process I would love to see them as I'm sure a number of people on here would. Again, nicely done.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Feb 12, 2010 22:30:15 GMT -5
Amazing! Is the stock and metal parts original? I can tell the rear sight and bolt part were possibly molded. Looks fantastic!
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Post by Guinness on Feb 13, 2010 15:52:07 GMT -5
VietnamMarine,
As already requested, build pics and description would be great- How did you do the receiver set and does the bolt move?
Awesome work man
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Post by bigpigdog on Feb 24, 2010 12:02:42 GMT -5
hey looks good,the repro stocks are on sale in i offer,itsn abit like ebay,from a guy in germany they are quality and good cheap price(87 dollars)he does a few stocks 44,berretta 38 a,g43,mp28.all relativly priced at a few dollars les than the 43 stock!repro parts for the 43 are hard to get but some parts are availabe,shoi mag,k98 butt plate,the rest you would have to make! i8m building a blank fire 43 in 9mm,in the near future and will do a 43 at some point ,so i will try and get more info to you guys on here asap,hope this is some good to you guys?also thinking maybe the agm 40 gearbox may fit after some mods? looking at it at the moment but till the stock arrives i wont know!regards, bpd
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Ersatzjack
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Post by Ersatzjack on Nov 3, 2010 23:07:24 GMT -5
First off, vietnammarine's brother has a nice gun there. Looks good and with the M-14 high cap is skirmishable I'll bet. This project with a G43/M-14 started for me in 08' I think and is finally ready to deploy. The rifle is an upgraded AGM M-14 underneath the beautiful Oak stock and metal-glass fabrications that Gryphon designed and crafted. If you look carefully you can see an armorer's quality patch to the rear stock by the butt plate and other than that the stock fits pretty seamlessly with the rest of the gun parts. Gryphon has no plans to mass produce these. The delay was my fault as I was supposed to finish the magazines and took forever to fit and build two others but finished that this week. The gearbox has been slightly upgraded but with semi-auto only performance I kept upgrades low as this gun is tough enough on batteries. This rifle will be a challenging choice. The magazines are true low-caps that are close to real capacity. 15-rounds tops if you load up properly. That's it. But it sure looks neat. If used with a SMG partner this could be fun to use and pictures would be cool. So until someone makes a commercial version with a 600-round high cap this will have to do. But finally this one is finished. Thanks again to Gryphon for his patience and expertise in making this rifle a reality.    |
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Post by jimmiroquai on Nov 3, 2010 23:44:33 GMT -5
That is just beautiful. Any WIP pics?
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Ungarisch had great idea!!!
