Browning M1919 30 Caliber Machinegun

[2nd Bat]

Killbucket, Thanks for your kind remarks and support I have ordered one of your guns and tripod and look forward to the process of rigging my internals. I'll keep you and this post informede on how it is going. I have several ideas of course but won't know how applicable they are until I get the set up and can go from there.

I hope others get these as well as 30 Cals on the airsoft battlefields will do great things for WW2 and Vietnam airsoft.

[applestrudel]

Killbucket I attempted to order a layout kit but the billing thing wouldn't accept an american express will a different card work?

[killbucket]

I will look into the Amex thing, there shouldn't be a problem with Amex, Visa Mastercard, or Discover. I'm new at this e-commerce mechanics, but have some ideas what may be up. The default security settings didn't like customers from Finland at first, and I managed to fix that, so hang in there. I appreciate you letting me know there was a problem!
You may also send a money order if that is convenient, many guys prefer to keep toy purchases "under the radar", and do this.

[2nd Bat]

That would be me! The long haired General needn't know what I spend. Unfortunately my son knows, so technically I'm his bitch now.

[killbucket]

AMEX only not working, I've sent an email to the gnomes at Authorize.net. They have been pretty good so far, but like lawyers, only answer direct questions.

For now you can select the second option marked "credit card" on the checkout (I just switched this on), and enter your order that way. I will manually process the transaction from my end.

Ah technology. There's a way around everything

[applestrudel]

ordered the plans will post pics, construction starts the day they arrive.

[applestrudel]

Would the mp-40 gearbox take a m120 or m130 spring?

[killbucket]

I cannot see any reason they wouldn't go in. The castings themselves look WAY more robust than the ver2 box, which has a narrow top spine, where they are prone to breaking (from what I hear. Mine has a 170% CA spring in it and is happy so far. It is a Marui M733 with over 25,000 rounds fired).

The MP gearbox has easily four times as much metal in this area. I'd expect the failure mode of this box to be gear damage or excessive wear in the bushings.
Go for broke, at worst you're out $129. And you'll know what parts REALLY need upgrading on a new box.

I'm sure I'll get to know this box's innards well, in time.

[Jager.Drü]

I put I 120 in my MP40 and it broke the stock piston, so if you are gonna upgrade you have to pretty much redo the whole internals.

[killbucket]

Foreseeable, I stand corrected., Jager.
The stock plastic is questionable. I was hoping this wouldn't include the piston. Crossing my fingers, I'll hope that all the normal goodies will fit, and the box will stay together after a hotrodding session. Remember the price point, and it's an all-metal gun, metal box, metal gears. They had to scrimp somewhere, just where becomes apparent with time.
From what I've seen done with other boxes, I'm confident this one will have some performance hiding inside it. The MP40 has the barrel keeping it down. I'm looking at less destructive ways around this issue.
Somebody will have a tack driver out of one of these, too. They may have only the metal parts left at that point, however. I'll document whatever I find out, I have a feeling I will get to know these boxes well.

Still a great starting point for a scratchbuilder with limited space and funds.

Question:
Just how important is Hop-up? In a high-speed, bullet pukin' long-distance shotgun?
The original Browning was intended for "cone of fire" use.
Hmmm.

[2nd Bat]

Without hop up no matter what your power you're range is going to be severely limited. Hop up in my opinion is extremely important with a crew served weapon where you need to reach out and touch folks since you're having to support the manuever elements at enough of a stand off range to survive the defensive challenges of a tripod or bipod mounted weapon. Sustained Rate of fire is huge in this regard but a little bit of added range needs to be in there as well. At least equal to other weapons!

Gotta have a decent hop up. The only exception would be in a bunker or mounted in a armored vehicle.

[killbucket]

Ah.
I will sketch and consider Uber hopup layouts.
The glue on the original hop unit's locking ring could possibly loosen in boiling water for a few moments? I've seen the tutorial on cutting this bit off, I went lukewarm at the electrical tape being part of the fix
(to me, electrical tape seems to have no legitimate purpose to exist).

An off-the shelf CA hop unit, and a Madbull psg-1 barrel would probably be the best barrel mod.

The stock hop is all one unit including ammo stack. That is actually good, no alignment issues.

[killbucket]

www.air-sharp.com/M2%20browning%20air-sharpdotcom.JPG

Shot of the MP40 Mount. The linkages are not in place yet. There will be a button on the back plate (present on the real guns) that will put the gun in semi-automatic when pushed. This is for unloading the spring for storage.

I am so busy. Good thing I don't sleep.

[applestrudel]

will the plans Iordered have the mp-40 gearbox template mount thing?

[killbucket]

Yes, The plan kits also include the layouts for the new dual-gun pintle as well.
All you are missing is ammo feed, because those drawings do not exist yet.
I will be sending these to all my customers in a follow-up mailing in the near future.

[red0leader]

i have a question:

i (for reasons as i would be the one to carry everthing for it) dont want the tripod but a bipod. would the universal bipod by hearo arms be acceptible to do this? whould the end of the barrol be strong enough to take havuing everything put onto the end of it? if i mounted it at the beggining of the barrol, would this better support it?

[spitfire740]

What would be really cool to see is a "Stinger" 50 cal. I don't want to sidetrack the discussion, but I saw a documentary of how a marine took a 50 cal off of a airplane and modified it into small arms use putting a garand stock on the end and slapping a bipod on there.

[killbucket]

The barrel is strong enough for the use you intend. All you have to do is drill holes for the mount.

I am considering creating the aircraft M2 in FFL-free polymers.
Just like the barrel more. And yes, and aircraft guns converted for terrestrial use are undeniably cool.
Asahi Minigun, anyone?
Speaking of which, I was thinking of making a "dummy" of one of those and putting the gearbox in the middle of a fake spinning barrel set. You wouldn't be able to tell the rounds were coming from the center tube, anyway.

[killbucket]

Double Fun. Drawings for the dual mount are now included in the layout kit.

[jimseery]

There was an article in "The American Rifleman" in, I believe, April of last year on the USMC "stinger". I've been meaning to chase down the article and haven't done it yet. As I remember it was the unofficial version of the 1919A6. The Marines salvaged 30 (not 50) cal guns off SBDs, attached a cutoff Garand stock to the back, a bipod and carrying handle to the barrel and some kind of sling arrangement to the body. The History channel did a show that featured a Marine doing all kinds of wonderous things with one. I want one!

[killbucket]

Round up a picture or two of this?...Sounds very interesting.
We could do a limited run, if the provenace on the story holds up.

Ammo feed box design is under way.

We got MANY shipments out today. The instruction sheets weren't ready, but the layout kits went on their way. We will be posting the Assembly instructions on the site ASAP, these will be interesting to those who have been doing their own fabrication/design, I'm sure. Look forward to something that looks like a car model kit sheet, not much reading required.

Note: Boiling the hop chamber for 30 seconds didn't affect the glue bond...resorted to bladed weapons. The original wizard had the way into this figured out. I'm not finding the barrel/hopunit for these guns available separate, but I hear scuttle they are available.
If I can get my hands on them wholesale, I'll offer a pre-lengthened barrel, it is needed for this design.

[applestrudel]

www.aegarms.com has the guns going for 75$ a piece but they also has a wholesale thing that would probably bring the price down some more.

[red0leader]

well, uppon further investigation, i was planning on getting a hero arms barrel mounted bipod, but the barrel is too big for the clamp. so i am stuck with the tripod it comes with (i really dont want to drill aditional holes into this thing). also, that double mount is only cool sticking out of a turret, not very cool just on the tripod.

[2nd Bat]

I think it looks cool as hell. Not very authentic or likely but cool as hell. I'm figuring I will have to make my own bi pod and M1919A6 assembly.

[killbucket]

Hey Red,
If you would like to purchase a gun sans pod, we will do that.
I will get with my bean counter tonight, and decide on details.
We will post a "gun only" item ASAP.

We are looking for barrel material that is the proper outer diameter. Part of the way we came up with an economical 1919 was through clever "off-the-shelf" component choices. Sometimes this meant deviating from the original design dimensions (which we did not have access to).

Please bear in mind that we aren't looking to fool any informed types. Many have done a more faithful re-creation of this subject.

We take pride in that we have been able to make this accessable to the marketplace mainstream. Our product is sturdy and a joy to own. It makes a great conversation piece when you're not going triggerhappy with it. My wife gets a kick out of visitors who see the twin guns in the living room. She likes telling them that they are there to stay.


The dual mount is one of my flights of fancy from a 3a.m. design session. No, it isn't historically accurate, and you may need to reinforce the pod some. But it is an absolute blast to fire two guns on one hapless, hopeless target. (The layout kit includes these parts!). I leave it up to the customer how they will come up with the 2nd gun (wink wink).
I am working on a lever that will give on-the-fly impact convergence point control.

If demand presents itself, we will explore offering the twin setup as a ready-built.

[killbucket]

An AGM M14 sniper (black, easy to repaint) is on the way to us. We will make mounts for the M14 gear next.

The ammofeed sys is taking shape! It will be simple, affordable, and made from off-the-shelf items anybody can obtain easily. an AK 600-round Hicap (it must be the type that uses a winder key through a hole in the side, about $36.00, I will find out what brand today and post it here) and a high-torque servo (Cirrus CS-80 is my preferred victim) are needed, oh yeah, and a .30 cal, 200-round ammo can. Go with a high torque servo, the ammo feed line can/will be long!


The Amex thing on the site is finally supposed to be fixed tomorrow. I love American Express. I can usually void the warranty on a purchase before it is detected by "management"...who assumes this is a gasoline and home improvement account....heh heh.
(I formally disown my previous statement, should the aforementioned authority read this....)

[Tough Ombre]

Ok, I have a little information on the stinger. 1st off. It was a 30-06 cal projectile. Though it wasnt a 1919. It fired a heck of alot faster. I believe almost 1000 RPM ( Rounds Per Minute). It was originally mounted on a twin mount on the back of the SBD Dauntless Dive Bomber. The Marines would take these guns off of wrecked dive bombers, Mainly from Guadalcanal but also when ever they could find them. They would modify them for use on the ground by Taking the trigger from a BAR, then cut the stock from a M1 Garand. Then, im pretty sure they used a 1919A6 Bipod. For the BAR bipod was too small to fit on.

-Cary

[jimseery]

There is a thread on Arnies titled 30 cal and 50 cal support weapons, or words to that effect whining that no one is ever going to make an airsoft browning of any type. The importance of this is that I gave them the air sharp address and that one of the posters there posted a really neat picture of a "stinger". I continue to persue the American Rifleman article.

[killbucket]

Thank you kindly, sir!

Details on the Mounting of the Hopup, in flipped orientation.:
www.air-sharp.com/hopup%20modification.html

We will have all the linkage drawings up asap, and are now working on a graphic showing bond locations.
The Tripod drawings are also taking shape. A slight error on the tripod sidepanels has been corrected and details will follow.

We will beat every last bug out of this concept!

This is coming together, slow, but sure:

[Tough Ombre]

I forgot to mention something. Your tripod is also missing something Im sure you are aware of it though.



The T/A isn't needed, but the bar is pretty important lol its not much you jsut need a short piece of tubing that slips over the leg on each side. On one it should be secured in place and on the other it moves freely, then just a bar in the middle thats bolted onto each other tubing piece. The bolt should also allow it to move, theyso that it can still fold up. Just thought i should let you know, it would make for a better overall product.
-Cary