Sniper Rifle

[phantom12321]

I'm looking to make a sniper either WWII or modern. However, while I'm handy, I'm not familiar with the guts of an airsoft gun for the most part. I was hoping you guys could tell me what would be a good gun to purchase and upgrade to a high fps sniper rifle. Prefereably WWII if there is anything like that out there. Otherwise Modern.

[Tough Ombre]

VSR- 10 is a good choice.
-Cary

[YankeeDiv26]

i second that. i shot one about a month ago and it is a solid gun that i would trust. as far as an airsoft sniper rifle goes, the vsr-10 a pretty effective weapon.

[Sturmmann13]

oh get the $60 chinese knock-off by JG at, redwolfairsoft.com

[Cpl. Hicks]

I'm not sure that would be as reliable as the TM VSR-10. (which I would get)

[phantom12321]

okay, I was pretty sure about the VSR too. Now what kind of guts package could I put in it to really crank up the FPS? Or does it come pretty strong out of the box?

[Tough Ombre]

Well my buddy has a chinese knock off he got cost him 100 w/ scope and bipod. With 20's and properly adjusted hopup (right in the middle) it was able to shoot straight as a needle at over 60 yds (I'd say close to 100) They are completely TM compatible, and you can buy the spring upgrades. I would recommend www.evike.com or www.airsoftgi.com
-Cary

[Jager.Drü]

Why do you want a sniper weapon, you aren't going to out range AEGs.

[mechetravis]

m14rifleman said:

Well my buddy has a chinese knock off he got cost him 100 w/ scope and bipod. With 20's and properly adjusted hopup (right in the middle) it was able to shoot straight as a needle at over 60 yds (I'd say close to 100) They are completely TM compatible, and you can buy the spring upgrades. I would recommend www.evike.com or www.airsoftgi.com
-Cary

The MP001 is not at all compatible with TM parts. If you are speaking of the HFC usr however, you are entirely correct.

[YankeeDiv26]

jager im pretty sure phantom knows how sniper rifles compare to aegs but he wants/needs one anyways. lets try not to make this a "sniper rifle vs aeg thread".

[phantom12321]

Jager, I am hoping to either use a gas piston (removing restriction pieces) or a spring gun (depending on what I can afford) with a overly large spring and a reinforced piston to achieve somewhere around 600-800 fps. This gun would obviously have a minimum distance safety requirement. In the event of someone entering this range I would resort to a side arm or something less "lethal" to take down the enemy. That's my hope anyway..

Travis: I appreciate the tip off to the MP001, that was in fact the gun somebody else told me WOULD work with TM parts. The HFC does look like a better choice and if it's compatible, more power to it.

[CharleyNovember]

600-800 fps

That is a bit dangerous to use against human targets. Most known fields will not let you use it. Most players I know wouldn't allow you to play with it against them. I would keep it 550fps max.

[phantom12321]

okay, :-( you always ruin everything Dan. lol I'll just go get my potato gun
:-D

[spitfire740]

Also, I personally feel that a sniper can be very effective in airsoft when travelling in a squad. If he's alone then he may have problems fending off a mger charging at him, but in a group, he can be very deadly. An accurate long range weapon mixed with the protection of AEG's, can be very effective.

[2nd Bat]

I concur that not greater then 600 FPS is an agreeable max FPS with 20 gram or compatible jouels of power. At that, minimum ranges should be established and trained to. Most so called airsoft snipers haven't a clue how to guage field ranges consistently and with a more potent weapon should. The inertia even on a high FPS weapon drops off considerably outside of 60 feet (Three car lengths) and especially so after four car lengths so 75 feet is usually what field use. The destructive power of a high FPS weapon is way greater inside that range then a normal AEG. The problem is that beyond 75 feet accuracy even with a sniper rifle is hardly sniper like and the maximum range isn't any where near as great as most people seem to think. In airsoft when people hunker down and don't move even a 20 foot advantage can be significant so there is a place for a dedicated "sniper" They can be especially valuable as in a real battle when used during delaying actions or flank protection. Pin pointing key targets at range is less authentic.

There is a Chinese bolt action rifle that looks somewhat like the british rifle. (Angular and modern) It shoots at around 460 right out of the box and performs quite nicely. The MP001 cheap chines VSR like clones shoot close to 400 FPS right out of the box. Both could accomodate a stronger spring and a custom tightbore barrel which would increase your range and accuracy somewhat.

With longer barrels as in most sniper rifles there is a bizarre aberation that sometimes occures (especially with gas powered airsoft rifles) Occassionally they will shoot at GREATER FPS) with heavier BBs Obviously this results in greater hitting power. It worthwhile therefore to chrono with the weight and type Bbs you are going to use so you and your fellow players will know what the nature and power of the guns they are up against are producing.

I wear a full screen face mask (Titanium) so I really don't care but the folks with the shooting glasses and screen goggles really have a right to know. I've seen too many teeth shot out and actual penetrating wounds into the face to be cavalier about such things.

[phantom12321]

are you saying that a dedicated sniper should be used to keep people out of a 20 foot range and should be used for slowing down advances or that they should be used for pin pointint targets?

[CharleyNovember]

I believe he is saying that if you are dealing with AEG's that shoot 120 feet and you are in a group where you can pick people off at say 140 feet. In airsoft that 20 feet can be advantageous. The role of sniper can be lonely and you may get your ass handed to you quite often if you do not play with a team like someone else suggested. If you are working with 2-3 AEG's then you can learn to use tactics to your advantage so that it benefits your team.

[2nd Bat]

There is simply nothing pin point about airsoft rifles at range. (Round balls aren't very precise) add wind and brush and they're even less so. In airsoft engagements the only effective role I've seen sniper weapons play is the tiny additional stand off capability they have. Of course this is quickly eliminated with even a little bit of aggressive movement. Since most players easily get "pinned down" and remain stationary. The added range does pay off so again there is a place in airsoft for more powerful somewhat longer ranged "sniper" rifles. There are a few folks I've seen who are good enough with them to lay pretty decent fire on dedicated target even at long range but they are rare and ofetn the single plinking hit of a well aimed BB at long range is often not felt or doesn't register as a hit.

It isn't my intent to go off on a rag about "airsoft snipers" Remember I built several bolt action Springfields for my personal use and I enjoy them a great deal but they come into play more as marksmen then snipers per se.

I read all these comments about 100 yard kills and I just giggle. Put a tin pie plate (10 inch diameter) that you can definitely hear when it gets hit and pace off the distance it can actually be hit with any consistency (2 out of 3 shots) even with the most powerful field acceptable airsoft rifle ( 600FPS)and most skilled shooter. It is sobering and eye opening.

[phantom12321]

I c what you're saying. Thanks guys.

[2nd Bat]

They are fun to use and there is a place for them but it isn't quite in the role and manner that most people think. Team work is definitely the key to their proper use as should be true with all things Mil Sim. There is something about racking a bolt action rifle and trying to make all your shots count that is just plain cool.

[Jager.Drü]

Maybe not a "sniper" role but a DM role would be better. A highly upgraded rifle and you move with a squad.

[2nd Bat]

Exactly!