The 1919A6 Wish List

[killbucket]

First of all, thank you all for the informed input. Our products are well-received, and I can't express enough gratitude here.
We are interested in what the Airsoft community expects in a model of this type. Even crazy suggestions are solicited, they turn out to have the most potential sometimes.
So, what is YOUR opinion?
Some pics to start the thoughts coming:





My personal favorite, a shorty A6 -Anybody for a CQB-style 1919?






Here's a curve-ball:

[YankeeDiv26]

first of all, if the gun has 1919 followed by A6 in the name I'm happy already. I'm not 100% sure on this but I've heard the A6's did not have cone-style muzzle until the Korean era. So making them an opitional feature like the barrels and grips on your A4's would be nice. I'd like the idea of interchangeable stocks/bipods/muzzles/and grips for those of us who would like a specific part or something that works on our a4 as well. As much as I'd like 2 seporate 1919's I couldn't justify the price, and being able to change my gun from an a4 to an a6 would be awesome. Just my thoughts as of now, hopefully they'll be taken into consideration.

[theriseandfall]

I think that if you can manage to get the parts interchangeable from A4 to A6 it will greatly influence sales as people will be getting a sorta two for one type deal. I know 100% that i would buy one if that were so.

Personally i like the appearance of the 1st and 4th pictured A6 designs.

The shorty is pretty cool too and more practical as a personal weapon, but i think the fact of it being short would kind of kill the fact that you have a "machine gun".

The A6 looks like a pretty awesome support weapon, and if it keeps with the ROF of your current offerings i think we can give jerry a run for his money.

and just because the last picture reminded me of it a bit...

Ever though of making a airsoft Boys Anti-tank rifle??? think that would be pretty cool actually...

[killbucket]

Everything will be interchangeble...except:
The Ammunition box will be permanently attached to the receiver on the A6, and on all future A4's. The receiver for the earlier models will need slight modification to install the AmmoDrive unit. Otherwise, all the grips and barrels will swap just fine. Our mount patterns have stayed the same.
Water-Cooled A6, hmmm?

[TommyGunner]

So when you say the ammo box will be attached are you talking about the BB ammo box or the actuall 30cal ammo box being attached to the reciver?

TommyGunner

[2nd Bat]

Though perhaps not technically correct for WW2 the muzzle cone just plain looks badass and enhances the look considerably in my book. I also like the later style hand grip better then the double bladed swing handle but again that's quite minor. Either approach would be fine. As for an attached box magazine I think though it somewhat detracts from authenticity it's the smart way to go. I'm assuming it'll be a less obtrusive size then the full ammo box and will probably hold fewer Bbs in the reservoir which is also fine. (Quick reload anyway based on your current design) With that you could load through the bottom of your donor gun which should simplify things a bit and that is also fine. The ventilated small box on the Stinger looks like a viable design arrangement.

My Inokatsu M-60 box mag uses some very clever quick detach clips for the spring hose that allows you to push a small button and detach the BB hose on the outside of the weapon if you need to remove the box mag for some reason. This outside tube feeds directly into a continuation of the spring tube that leads into the donor gear box. You also need to unclip a tamiya clip that leads from the battery (Held inside the receiver goup) to the box mag system The single battery drives both the gun and the box mag.

The component approach is very dynamic allowing a single main purchase to take on a wide variety (almost infinite) variety of looks to adhere to almost any period. The A6 as depicted would be fine for Korea through Vietnam and beyond while a water cooled 30 Cal could be early war, WW1 and practically any period since the turn of last century. The classic M1919A4 likewise covers alot of history.

The bipod and attached box magazine defintely enhances the guns skirmishability. I'm anxious to see your efforts.

[YankeeDiv26]

It would be cool to see the "later" and "earlier" versions of the 1919a6. The only part that looks pretty hard to duplicate is the carrying handle on the later version. Nevertheless they would be very cool to see.

[Tough Ombre]

I would deffinatly buy one!! But i also like the A4m, so one that comes with the bipod and and A6 stuff would be awsome!!
-Cary

[2nd Bat]

The fact that a person can componetize the system is so cool. Three to five variations from one main gun is not unreasonable and there is potential for far more.

[killbucket]

The big ammo box goes away for a while. We will re-introduce it later as a model with even more capacity.
The on-gun ammo box will be similar in size/appearance to the 100-rounder that hung right on the gun:

www.ima-usa.com/product_info.php/cPath/4_21598/products_id/568
The Stinger box emulates this item:

www.ima-usa.com/product_info.php/cPath/4_215_98/products_id/1127

[YankeeDiv26]

I have a question that has so far gone un-answered. Will the battery go into the stock? I've been eye'ing the room left in my .30 and see that it fits a large battery with possibly room for about a 400rd hopper. I think I might go-ahead and make one so that the gun is self-contained eventhough it wont be able to hold as much nor feed as well as you're ammo can system. I at least wont mind the inconsistancy of a hopper system because it'll A. require me to take regular intervals to reload (fairly represents reloading time on real mg's) B. require me to lift the top latch for a more realistic reloading effect. C. require me to fire in short bursts to feed rounds properly, also fires in more realistic bursts that optimize the mosfet system. D. more portable

[2nd Bat]

Are you thinking simple gravity feed here? If so I think you're going to be dissapointed but I could be wrong. I frankly like the idea of a smaller feed reservoir that needs to be filled periodically and as you say promotes a more realistic sustained fire rate. I also agree that it's cool to have to raise the feed tray to reload.

On Schmittys M1919A6 you had to pour the Bbs into the feedtray inside the receiver group (It held around 700 rounds) and the battery was in the ammo box (along with spare bags of BBs and a string of linked bullets) The bullets very cleverly housed the wires leading from the battery with a dens connector at the end.

You had to raise the feed tray everytime you redeployed and connect the battery from the ammo box. You also had to raise the feedtray to pour in BBs from time to time. I don't think it was gravity fed but in fact had an agitator of some kind.

[YankeeDiv26]

a gravity fed system is really my only easy option due to my limited fabricating conditions. "The shop" is temporarily closed because my good friend and jeep partner is gone until mid-late august. An agitator would definitely improve the overall design adn would be something I'd like include. there seems like theres enough room for a tray system that holds a decent amount of bb's (I like to reload, I dont mind) along with a battery.This may not be an idea that would go mainstream (even for the .30 cal market) but something I might do on my own.

[2nd Bat]

I seriously don't think gravity is going to begin to keep up with a reasonable rate of fire even with the thump thump thump of a 30 Cal. If you're going to have to go to the trouble of reversing the hop up set up you shoudl be able to rig up an electric feed system or hi cap style winding arrangement. Maybe it would be worthwhile to go back to Schmittys old tutorial on his M1919A6 and see what he did. It was an awesome set up I recall. Granted I don't have the patience to drill through a dozen bullets to route the wiring. (Which he did!) Maybe it was gravity feed but I don't think so. It held 1500 to 2000 BBs as I recall. To me this was perfect.

[killbucket]

The battery will be in the ammo box.
Only one A6 has been ordered. This customer will get a one-of-a-kind, highly collectable item. This project is DEAD.

[2nd Bat]

I don't think you gave this project enough time. I would have ordered one but in my impatience ordered the components to make my own. (Stock, bipod muzzle cone and hand grip.) If you have the stock and bipod worked out you really might as well add it to your offerings it would seem to me. Once pictures of the finished gun are up I'm sure reasonable numbers will follow, in fact I predict they would exceed the orders for the stinger once the excitement of that release dies down.

[theriseandfall]

I definitely agree give the project some more time. I haven't ordered one yet, but I also don't quite have the funds yet. Also as 2nd bat said it will help to have pictures. Not because anyone doubts your work, but because frankly something flashy to show it off will simply catch more interest.


I imagine it will be more popular than the stinger due to its more standard look and wider use.

[TommyGunner]

True true, and if you do decide to take the A6 off the projetc list keep the parts available so that people can buy a 30cal and then buy the A6 parts. Dont wryy people will buy it.

TommyGunner

[jimseery]

I agree, as much as I've wanted a Stinger I didn't place my order until I saw a picture.

[YankeeDiv26]

I say make the stock/bipod/carrying handle options much like the water-cooled vs. air cooled and spade grips vs pistol grip. The whole A6 configuration might now sell much but would work well as options. I could see a lot of people not wanting the stock but many more wanting the bipod and carrying handle.

[Guinness]

So this is dead?

And this was the one I wanted to buy.......

But you made one by adding A6 parts to your A4 2nd Bat?

[killbucket]

It is still in the shopcart, we will make one up if it is ordered.

[2nd Bat]

Yes I made a very reasonable A6 using Killbuckets kit and a combination of actual parts and home made adaptations of existing items I had. One comment is don't bother with the muzzle cone. It's post war and extremely heavy which throws off the balance of the ABS gun considerably. I'll post pictures of it all done up shortly. (I just got back from RECONDO school and will be sleeping unpacking and cleaning up for about a week!)

[YankeeDiv26]

You'll only make the complete gun correct? I'd love to get a stock/bipod/carrying handle if they're avalable fo ra reasonable price.