Mosin Nagant M44 Finished!

[CharleyNovember]

Finished gun can be found on this page.

www.scenarioairsoft.com/ww2/wickedweapons/m44/44page.htm

[TommyGunner]

Wow looks great man. Good job

TommyGunner

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If I may ask, what makes the putting-together of the Mosin harder than the Mausers.

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[CharleyNovember]

More room for me to work with on the Mausers. The bolt handle is specially made for it.

[Guinness]

Wowzers! Impressive as usual Daniel




Slainte!


-G

[natman]

wowzers indeed

[spitfire740]

With the USR11, does the mag feed in through the bottom? Did you have to drill a space so that the mag can get in through the trigger guard? I'm trying to figure out what the best method is because I am contemplating a similar conversion with a Carcano which also has a trigger gaurd and I need some pointers . Great work, dan! She's a beuty.

[CharleyNovember]

The magwell has to be cut in the same way the Mausers do. It is actually the next step. I have made a template to do it with out of cardboard. I'll take some pictures of that when I get to that part of it.

[Rock of the Marne]

great job dan

[valtteri]

Some people here have left the real steel magazine intact and shortened the airsoft mags. This gives some 8 rounds capacity (3 more than on the real gun) but is aesthetically much better.

[p40warhawk]

So how exactly are you making room for the mags? Is the real mag in the way or is the steel mag back far enough to put the airsoft mag in the wood stock in fron of the steel? I want to try this for myself with an M91/30...

[CharleyNovember]

The RS trigger guard and mag will snap into place with a clip over the USR mag. I have to take some new pics for you guys.

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Any updates?

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[CharleyNovember]

Update in first post. Gun is done. Finished it while I was awaiting some things for my Mausers. Shoots 515fps. Going to new owner tommorow.

[Guinness]

....just ......wow

I'm speechless man! You have outdone yourself!


You do however need larger photographs taken by an expert, that would be me of course

And because we are friends I will gladly forego my usual sitting fee and just do it for a gun

[CharleyNovember]

Thanks G-man. I really wanted to make a great piece with this gun and I hope it shows. And yeah it has been said before I suck at taking pics I can photchop with the best of them but I suck at actually taking them.

[Guinness]

the pics are fine- just too small for my liking

...Oh.. you have your res set to 800x600 huh

[CharleyNovember]

They are 50% original. The start out as huge and then I bring em down in photoshop.

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Wow, that looks really good! As G- said, you have outdone yourself...

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[2nd Bat]

Dan that looks great. What a bargain! Less then half what KJW or Shoot n Scoot charges and by the look of it every bit as nice or nicer!

[Ersatzjack]

This is not a burn but I really can't comment with the pictures that are provided. I know you have been kind in your thread comments on my rifles but until I see some better photos how can I offer any intelligent input. 515fps? What did you use to get that? Parts names don't require photographs. I'd like to know what the base gun is. VSR, USR, or APS2. Did I mention photos? Yeah, need to see close-ups. Bolt work pics, anchoring to the stock pics, magazine in and out pics, rifle out of the stock pics, and that kind of stuff. Then I'll either sing your praises or not. If you were just announcing this as your project gun then I'd be more charitable but since it is advertised as a commercial project I think I have the right to be more cynical. - Otto

Okay, after receiving some nudging to alter my initial post let me just add here that I want to provide a big fat wet kiss of approval for this project but I need more visuals and more information about the parts used and stuff. I just think that if something is offered up as a commercial offering these are fair questions to ask. I'm all about slapping someone on the back if their project is a personal matter. Then if they are happy, I'm happy. But once you go public, I think you have to be fully forthcoming with what you are selling. I'm not in competition here either. I haven't currently got anything for sale. I'm more or less building by word of mouth at this point and my guns are more expensive so it would be unfair to compare them. I'm just curious about the details. Nothing negative intended at all. That's the honest truth.

[CharleyNovember]

Seems pretty negative to me jack but whatever. Your praises are not required jack. My customers will do that to me privatley and on the boards. You did follow the link to the webpage right? They may not be the best pics I have ever seen but The seem to show what needs to be shown I thiught.

It is USR-11 it has laylax parts and a deepfire searset. I honestly forget what the spring number was. But all of the parts came from AirsoftAtlanta. Upgraded parts were cylinderhead, spring guide, spring, piston, and sears. Is that clear enough? I didn't take pics of it all taken apart because it is pretty much the same as the Mausers taken apart and that pic has been posted for awhile.

You can ask anyone that has emailed me I have no problem answering questions about anything I make. I also encourage people to upgrade thier own guns rather than have me do it. This particular build this guy wanted to pay extra to have me do it so I did.

I'll probally ask the guy that bought it to take some other pictures of it. I can tell you he has already recieved it and thinks it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. That is his opinion and others might differ. No one else offers one for anywhere near the price. It is very detailed and lovingly made by hand by me. I am proud of my work, and I hope my customers are happy with the replicas they recieve. I have a day job so this doesn't put bread on the table so there is no pressure for me to sell these and no pressure for anyone to buy. I have recieved 2 downpayments on 2 91/30 already. I will put my heart into those replicas as well.

Thanks for all the positive comments guys.

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Is the bolt on your Mosin taken from the real steal? It looks amazing!

Oh yeah, would it be ok if I posted this on the Red Alliance forums? Your work deserves some publicity but I am not sure you want it quite yet.

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[Nimlas]

Nice!
Now I demand a 1903! Get to work!!

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nimlas said:

Nice!
Now I demand a 1903! Get to work!!

And when you are done with that...... ;D

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[Ersatzjack]

No new pictures. That would have answered some of my questions, but you are right, as long as your customers are happy that's all that matters, right?. Parts description could have been just a simple list but whatever. Obviously, I touched a nerve. That wasn't my intention but sometimes it can't be helped. If everyone is happy, then I'm done talking about it.

[CharleyNovember]

Is the bolt on your Mosin taken from the real steal? It looks amazing!

Oh yeah, would it be ok if I posted this on the Red Alliance forums? Your work deserves some publicity but I am not sure you want it quite yet.

The bolt handle is a 1/4 bolt and a wood ball epoxied and painted. Made for a very sturdy attachment. If you would like to post a link to my webpage about the gun on Red Alliance feel free. Let people know there is a list and I have no time free until November now.

Nimlas ~ Show me the money ;D I'd love to but I don't have the spare time till Nov. now and I don't have the cash to finance it for my own. More than willing to cut a deal with anyone that wants one done in Nov. just because I desperatley would like to produce one and Arisaka as well if anyone fancies one.

Ersatz ~ I really don't like upgrading them. I don't want to encourage others to ask by really pointing it out too much. It is much easier to upgrade a springer than people think and will be cheaper for them in the end. Your post just seemed really negative and seemed to be calling into question if I had actually made a working M44? You have always been friendly and it seemed oddly out of charecter of you. I do have the owner taking some extra pictures for me this week though and I will add them to the webpage and try and add more detailed info about the things I have done to it. Lets make up and hug

[2nd Bat]

I've built four Springfields so far and sold a couple of them. It's not something that frankly pencils out very well from a commercial persepective. Both were friends who just really wanted one.

They are every bit as easy to build I imagine as the Kar 98s. (Somewhat thinner stock and note that the finger grooved stock will not work as it's then too thin to accomodate the magazine width) The parts unfortunately are much more expensive to buy, hence the guns end up being a pretty spendy project. You can do a pseudo Springfield using the base stock from the VSR rifle and that saves quite a bit of expense but in my opinion doesn't end up looking quite as nice. (Functions the same of course)

I have materials to build a couple more and will eventually do so. I hope to once again, have a straight stock, scant stock and C stock variant for my own collection and use. I've used the guns in several events and have had a lot of fun with them. There is something quite satisfying with a bolt action rifle and these guys shoot quite well and are definitely competitive.

I'd love someday to do a trench warfare WW1 game with just bolt action rifles and maybe a couple water cooled tripod mounted MGs. "Over the top!" A night game with a lot of smoke flares and pyro would be very cool. "Fix bayonets!"

[baconandeggs]

I bought CharleyNovember's M44, and as he says I am as happy with it as a pig in mud. A very nicely done example of a "two Asian soldier gun" (as some Vietnam vets referred to them, the joke being that it took one man to fire it, and one to prop him up). Dan pre-upgraded the rifle at my request.

I took this sequence of pictures of it last night, to show magazine/mag well/unloading sequence.
The rifle is presently missing the crossbolt (visible as hole at rear of finger grooves), as this piece was not yet ready when Dan brought the rifle over (required some milling for magazine clearance).
Hope this helps.

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A swing-away clip at the front of the magazine, and a simple and very small clevis pin secures the trigger guard assembly, which supports the magazine at the rear. All other USR functions remain pretty much as normal, even the small hopup lever is still readily accessible. Functionally, still a USR, just hidden in M44 furniture.

[Ersatzjack]

baconandeggs - Thanks for posting those pictures. They sure point out the difficulty of the magazine placement in a MN conversion. I'm gonna think twice before I try and tackle that project. I think if I did try, I would use a different feed system for the BB's but I wouldn't know where to start. Maybe a tube with a spring that fed into a cut down magazine that was internal to the stock. No need for cutting the mag well then. You would just need more room in the stock. But like I said the engineering on that is for someone else to figure out. I'll stick to Mausers for now. Maybe a Springfield if I ever save up the money for the parts.

I'm glad to hear you are a satisfied customer. So are you doing a Russian impression? You know, there is need for Russians in Wisconsin in October, don't you? That would give you a chance to try it out in action. Hopefully not on me of course.

CharlieNovember - I'm just fine with a cessation of hostilities. (never my intention to have that situation in the first place). No hug though. Too European for me. A handshake when we meet someday on the airsoft field (bound to happen) and a symbolic handshake in these forum entries will do the trick for me. That sounds like a plan I can live with.