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Post by gunfreak on Oct 1, 2007 6:25:14 GMT -5
haha, this is the worst gun I have ever tried.
at 15m (50feet) it didn't hit the target ONCE!!!
the bb's whent everywere except there I aimed.
the FPS couldn't have been more then 200 if that much.
I could out run the bb's
and after about 20 rounds the thing started to fire full auto.
I used 134a gas, so it's not like it broke from un sound use.
this is just a piece of crap
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Post by KRaddatz on Oct 1, 2007 7:48:25 GMT -5
dee-lightful...
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 1, 2007 8:43:33 GMT -5
seriusly some of the BB's didn't even get the 50feet. they just dropped out a few feet from the barrel.
i think I git the target once(my CYMA thompson boks) and the bb's didn't go into the box. they didn't have the FPS. to do ut, they just hit and fell down.
perfect gun if you want to play martix as you can dodge the bb's without problems
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Post by Tough Ombre on Oct 1, 2007 9:39:22 GMT -5
Have you tried it with Green Gas? I thought this model was set up so you could use it with that.
-Cary
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 1, 2007 10:08:31 GMT -5
as far as I now, only US version of Garand and M2 carbine is sett up. but the action looks alot like the old M1 and that could take Green gas.
right now I don't realy have a choice. it's totaly useless now. so I have to try green gas, even if it breaks it.
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Post by Guinness on Oct 1, 2007 10:31:58 GMT -5
1st off- Truls if you really hate the gun, let me know and PayPal money will be on the way within the hour..... The 'Export" versions of the M1 Garand, and M2 Carbine and the new non-export, non-greengas ready M1 Carbine have been discussed in great detail on the boards Cary- do some reading before you engage the typing function  Slainte! -G |
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 1, 2007 10:50:49 GMT -5
selling it is one of the things i'm thinking about, shipping to the states are going to be expencive tho. i'll let you know by week end(mabye sooner)
tobad tho the gun feel great. the feel of puting in the mag and pulling the bolt back to load the first round is just cool as hell.
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Post by Tough Ombre on Oct 1, 2007 12:06:15 GMT -5
1st off- Truls if you really hate the gun, let me know and PayPal money will be on the way within the hour..... The 'Export" versions of the M1 Garand, and M2 Carbine and the new non-export, non-greengas ready M1 Carbine have been discussed in great detail on the boards Cary- do some reading before you engage the typing function Slainte! -G I dont pay attention to it all because i dont have the money and dont want the gun. Last thing i heard was that you could use it with green gas. That was when the post first came out... I havent read since... because i could careless..... -Cary |
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Post by Guinness on Oct 1, 2007 12:31:06 GMT -5
....So you could care less about something yet it was still important enough to jump in and comment from your ignorance and apathy......Ok  I guess that makes sense  |
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 1, 2007 13:31:31 GMT -5
moving on  the thing suffers from the same thing as the Garand, cool down effekt, the faster you shoot the colder the thing gets and the suckier the thing shoots. if I fire true semi the thnig wil fire 5-6 bb's at realy bad fps, then switch over to full auto and vent all the gas |
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 1, 2007 13:37:50 GMT -5
no wonder the thing shoots bad, there's no rubber on the carbine only the mag, so it dosn't make a tight seal. half the gas must be venting every time I shoot
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Post by Guinness on Oct 1, 2007 14:08:34 GMT -5
It also sounds like they are using the same sear as the M2 if it is going into 'rock and roll' mode for you.....
-G
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 1, 2007 14:18:32 GMT -5
jupp. this is probebly a M2 that they just pulled the selector switch off.
i'm giving it some days to see if I can get som use out of it. if not, it's bye bye to it
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Post by Guinness on Oct 1, 2007 14:40:49 GMT -5
yeah....you'd better just go ahead and box it up and ship it on over here ........ I just got my CAR15 from Finland and that was like $60 shipping, so the Carbine should be around the same or less because it will be lighter. That is of course if you decide to give it...er uh sell it to me |
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 1, 2007 14:52:07 GMT -5
to bad it works like crap, it looks like a million bucks, great sound of the bolt to.
now they only have to make it work and make a 15 round mag.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 1, 2007 17:35:16 GMT -5
I think what you're describing has been somewhat chronic with that model (unfortunately) It's like any Marushin gun when they work they are very cool. Unfortunately more often then not they don't work. Like you said they do look cool however.
Give it some attention to see if you can remedy the problem. Seals and O rings are the first place to look as you noted and double check all the internal screws. Hopefully you can get it functional and operating satisfactorily. Someone else on this board had one that wouldn't fire on semi and he unfortunately ended up selling it real cheap.
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Post by jazz on Oct 2, 2007 3:28:09 GMT -5
My M1 GBB arrived today, only had time to put 2 mags through it, while the kids were wanting attention  2 mags from 1 fill, hop was set to max at the factory it seems, as the included bbs hit 10 meters and do an abrupt 90 degree turn and head skywards. Feels very light, but had no issues with the action. Seems quite nice. Might be worth seeing if a real M1 stock will fit. |
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 2, 2007 11:47:32 GMT -5
I realy want it to work, I had forgot ha nice the M1 was, as I have the old one in M1A1 stock.
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Post by Guinness on Oct 2, 2007 14:24:46 GMT -5
Well one thing I have noticed with all my Marushin products is that they have a 'breaking in' time. They all seem to work better after use, so hopefully this one will be the same.
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Post by wade on Oct 2, 2007 15:30:16 GMT -5
Thank god I decided to go with a Springfield...
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 3, 2007 7:56:57 GMT -5
were the hell is the hop up on this thing?
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 3, 2007 9:31:59 GMT -5
found it.
after one bottle of gas, 300 rounds, lots and lots of tinkiring with the hopup I get the thing to shot straight but the bb's still only goes 15 meters
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 3, 2007 12:58:38 GMT -5
That absolutely sucks! Any M1 carbine experts out there have any thoughts about what his problem is? The typical reviews of this gun indicates that it shoots way way better then that.
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 3, 2007 13:04:39 GMT -5
well. i've desided it's time to get a better know how on gas guns. så i'm just goint to try everyting on this. sure i'm about $250 but mabye i'll learn something.
I orderd another batch of 134a gas, some .45g bb's(to see if they are any better) i bought some maintanece gas, that is slightly more powerfull then normal 134a, it also has some more lubercant, just to se if this might helt the bolt(i'm gusssing most of the gas goes to get the bolt back.
and finnaly i bought geengas, if all els fails i'll just see if that works.
if it breaks it's still not a big difference from how it works now
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 3, 2007 16:28:54 GMT -5
I think your issue is something other then gas. Things are just not sealing as they should or something is obstructing the action.
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Post by Guinness on Oct 3, 2007 22:38:39 GMT -5
Good idea John- gunfreak, on a full charge of gas, how many shots until empty? also, I believe your issue may center on the magazine and not the gun itself, when you fill the mag, are you using both fill nozzles? for whatever reason Marushin put two fill nipples (heh heh...he said nipples  ) on the magazine, I initially thought that meant 1 for shooting the BB, and 1 for cycling the action, but on mine (m2) I can't discern a difference between the two, so I just fill them both to be safe. |
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 4, 2007 7:37:07 GMT -5
I get about 25-30 bb's on one filling.
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 4, 2007 8:32:07 GMT -5
I filled both nozzles now. got a few meter more range now. but til far from a gun you can use in a game
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Post by Guinness on Oct 4, 2007 9:33:07 GMT -5
ok, well if you are getting 25-30 pulls of the trigger off one fill, then already your doing better than me with my M2- I generally get 15 to 20 shots per fill. Now that you have the silicone spray, I would probably spray down the barrel, that will actually slow the bbs down for a few shots, but end up coating the inside well after the excess is moved out with use. IMHO, this is either a Hop-up issue or a mag issue, (yeah genius, what else is there? ) the fact that your getting a good amount of shots per fill says to me that its not a leaky mag, or pressure from the mag, etc. Although now that I type this, I wonder if there are hi-flow valves for the mag available or something like that. Anyway, I would keep working on it, I also think your in the break in period. But when all else fails, .......just send it to me |
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 4, 2007 10:39:23 GMT -5
I'm guessing it's a hopup thing.
as the bb's move realy slow, even for 8mm bb's.
but it's hard to adjust the hop up with the hex key.
you realy don't get a feel of how much you've adjusted it.
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) on the magazine, I initially thought that meant 1 for shooting the BB, and 1 for cycling the action, but on mine (m2) I can't discern a difference between the two, so I just fill them both to be safe.