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Post by guitarmaster on Apr 24, 2008 22:02:52 GMT -5
Can i get some help on the uniform Amon Goeth wore in this movie? I think its really sharp and i was just wondering so anyhelp would be much appreciated.
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Ian
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Post by 2ndranger on Apr 24, 2008 22:23:23 GMT -5
Yes...Its SS.
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Post by guitarmaster on Apr 24, 2008 22:25:15 GMT -5
I know that...lol...I cant seem to find the strap that goes around the shoulder
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Post by gadge on Apr 25, 2008 5:35:59 GMT -5
You are looking at an SS officers tunic for the rank of Hauptsturmführer (roughly a captain)
Although he has totenkopf runes on the collar his appointment was to the Allgemeine and then another SS regiment (KZ guards wore the deaths head rune too).
The strap you refer to is a 'sam browne' belt worn by officers of professional armies at the time.
The SS wore those in black and the British in a red brown.
He'd have worn cavalry jodphurs/breechs and private purchase riding boots.
Hope that helps.
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Post by guitarmaster on Apr 25, 2008 18:51:08 GMT -5
Yep thanks. Im not to good with German stuff but would the Tunic be the M43? And the horse riding type pants?
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Post by gadge on Apr 25, 2008 21:40:34 GMT -5
The tunic looks early war with a darker collar, maybe a heer m36. The 'pants' you refer to are officers riding breeches or 'jodphurs' in europe 'pants' means underwear.  |
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Post by 2ndranger on Apr 25, 2008 21:46:12 GMT -5
Be sure its an officers tunic as well...Wait please dont tell me that your going to wear this...
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Post by gadge on Apr 26, 2008 7:14:22 GMT -5
It would be incredibly poor taste and bad form to wear.
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Post by click on Apr 26, 2008 8:36:21 GMT -5
It would be incredibly poor taste and bad form to wear. Yeah... |
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Post by gadge on Apr 26, 2008 8:50:56 GMT -5
We have a bar on allgemeine and political poice units in uk games. Do a google/wiki search for Amon Goth/Goeth Probably not a good look to go for |
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Post by heinz on Apr 26, 2008 9:39:09 GMT -5
Got to admit I agree with comments made before. SS can be seen as distinctly dodgy at the best of times, a KZ guard is simply beyond the pale. Considering that this is Airsoft, dont you want to portray a combat unit?
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Post by guitarmaster on Apr 26, 2008 14:07:07 GMT -5
I just want to get an SS officer uniform, in no way am i going to say he was good or anything i just thing the SS officer's uniform is sharp and it would be cool for displays.
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Post by gadge on Apr 27, 2008 13:01:53 GMT -5
SS isnt the issue, its the difference between Waffen SS and political SS units, the latter is pretty poor to want to display regardless of cool factor.
Waffen SS is generally a brave and well trained elite fighting force, the KZ guards were pretty much murdering and raping thugs...
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Post by heinz on Apr 27, 2008 16:34:05 GMT -5
If you're after an officers uniform for a combat unit, then here's a few pointers:
1: Dont bother with gaberdine for combat use.
2: You dont have to bother with an "Officers tunic" either. Waffen-SS Officers were issued one EM's tunic a year for field use. Some had them modified (taller collar, french cuffs, patch pockets etc etc) some didnt
3: Breeches or Keilhosen can both be worn. Remember that apart from their one-a-year issued uniform, the vast majority of clothing was private-purchase. Not all W-SS Officers had the means to afford privately tailored uniforms.
On the insignia front, remember that the eagle, collar tabs & cuff title are all embroidered in wire, though - as with most Jerry kit - you're guaranteed to see pics where this wasnt always done!
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Post by stogie on May 2, 2008 20:46:10 GMT -5
Poor taste of course, however I was shown pictures from the "GAP" that were "behind closed doors". At least 1/2 dozen reenactors in Allegemeine SS and NSDAP uniforms. I would keep it to waffen.  |
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Post by Lev on May 2, 2008 22:27:48 GMT -5
Poor taste of course, however I was shown pictures from the "GAP" that were "behind closed doors". At least 1/2 dozen reenactors in Allegemeine SS and NSDAP uniforms. That's creepy and disturbing. Such people should be kicked out of events. |
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