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Post by 2ndranger on Mar 29, 2006 13:26:19 GMT -5
Hello are there any fellow 2nd rangers out there? i need to know what type of boots would be appropriate for 2nd rangers that help alot. also if you could tell me the type of leggings that they wore and where i can find all of this gear.
thanks Semper Fi
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Post by reese on Mar 29, 2006 14:16:50 GMT -5
www.atthefront.comservice shoe, Type 2 and 1938 leggings They have pretty much everything you will need and have an amazing links page.
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Post by Go4Broke on Mar 29, 2006 14:29:49 GMT -5
Ditto. You can find better deals on leggings though. I'd say don't pay more than $10 for them.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 29, 2006 21:02:37 GMT -5
As a actual Ranger I wish, I really wish you wouldn't say Semper Fi!!!! Say "l Lead the way", "All the way." Sua Sponte or Hooah but ppppleeeeease don't say Semper Fi
(Marine Corp!)
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Post by mauser98k on Mar 29, 2006 23:50:45 GMT -5
Also, later the 2nd rangers did use jump boots!!! And roughouts
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Apr 2, 2006 18:43:31 GMT -5
yeah the type II's were for the 1st, 3rd, and 4th rangers that didnt want to use the British commando boots. (there were a few early rangers that faked foot problems or injuries so that they didnt have to wear them) The 2nd and 5th started training with roughouts and leggings - I have seen pics of the 2nd stateside with the full size leggings (not cut down) - and the 5th went to jump boots in England before D-day. The 2nd did have a few guys with the jump boots before D-day, but the majority of them didnt wear them in the field til the Brittany Campaign or later.
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Apr 3, 2006 12:04:40 GMT -5
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Post by Go4Broke on Apr 3, 2006 12:41:45 GMT -5
Uh, why does he have collar brass on his wool shirt?
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Post by Gordak on Apr 3, 2006 15:46:22 GMT -5
he is looking for snipers -Gordak
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Post by Guinness on Apr 3, 2006 15:55:35 GMT -5
Hey I have a question- For the roughouts or the DB's, what should I use to 'break them in'? they are the stock tan right now, I have read the G.I.'s would use 'shoe grease' whatever the heck that is- Should I just use brown shoe polish? hook a brother up Oh, and Carpe Diem! or En Vino Veritas!....or something like that -G
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Post by mauser98k on Apr 3, 2006 16:09:36 GMT -5
Well unless you want to polish them, don't put that stuff on it. Soldiers loved the db's mainly for that reason of not needing polish.
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Post by Guinness on Apr 3, 2006 16:40:39 GMT -5
lol Mauser- Brown shoe polish turns things .......brown So unless brother Gordak has another 'miracle potion' that would give a similar result......... don't worry young mauser, nobody is going to polish my roughout DB's -G
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Post by mauser98k on Apr 3, 2006 16:42:09 GMT -5
lol uh I knew that
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Apr 3, 2006 16:42:59 GMT -5
if you look up 'dubbing' - it's basically a waterproofing agent - after time, it can really make the boots look 'lived in' - I have a friend whose roughouts are almost dark grey. When I asked him about it, he said he 'dubbed the sh#t out of them'.......
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Post by Go4Broke on Apr 3, 2006 16:44:33 GMT -5
Yo yo!! Big G Dawg here's da hook up a'ight brudda: (*haha sorry I'll never do that again)
Well like in 2nd Bat's 442nd story, from another thread a while ago, you could use a heated spoon to take off some of the fuzz on the boots and make the leather smoother. Haven't actually tried this yet though, gotta find a spoon someone doesn't need...
But anyways for the quick and easy use "Hubbard's Shoe Grease" or actual WWII shoe dubbing. You can pick up the dubbing at military and gun shows sometimes for cheap. I've heard "Snow Seal" works well too.
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Post by indy on Apr 3, 2006 17:12:50 GMT -5
I was at a display a few months ago and was speaking to a veteran about the roughouts. He said they were issued them in England before the invasion (he had the old russet garrison shoes). He said is Sgt. was b!tching at them..telling them to polish the roughouts! He said they used the same stuff as on the garrison shoes and they got them pretty nice looking.
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Apr 4, 2006 21:25:15 GMT -5
Hey I have a question- For the roughouts or the DB's, what should I use to 'break them in'? they are the stock tan right now, I have read the G.I.'s would use 'shoe grease' whatever the heck that is- Should I just use brown shoe polish? hook a brother up Oh, and Carpe Diem! or En Vino Veritas!....or something like that -G The way I got my stuff broken in, was, to let them get broken in naturally, 1st event I went to I had my shiny brand new gear and uniform on. over time, the stuff has gotten dirtier.
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Apr 5, 2006 4:47:33 GMT -5
thats the best way to do it. that way it looks dirty and wrinkled and lived in.....
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Post by Gordak on Apr 6, 2006 22:29:46 GMT -5
a vet told me they coverd the boot with lighter fluid and lit it!!!!! they would put the fire out when the ruff was burned away!!!! no joke.
But then the guy would get his ass kicked by other GIs who didnt want to have to polish thier DB boots.
-Gordak
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 6, 2006 23:55:54 GMT -5
My wifes uncle basically said the same thing followed by pressing a heated spoon to smooth the leather out further. They ended up with spit shined rough outs. He was in the 442nd. They were a proud group. (Japanese Americans) He tells of his unit capturing large numbers of Germans in the mountains of Italy who noticed all the GIs were japanese. In English he asked "Are you Japanese?" The reply, thinking it was a racial slur was" Yeah bub what of it?" The German apologized and said "The only reason I asked is I thought you were our Ally." The soldier responded by saying. "Your propaganda is very bad. Japan joined the Americans two years ago!" The English speaking German translated the remark to all the other POWs and uncle Tets said they all looked like they were going to die!
It was a joke they repeated many times over.
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Post by Capt. Zak on Apr 9, 2006 10:10:41 GMT -5
Uh, why does he have collar brass on his wool shirt? I do believe that the brass Sgt. Tom is wearing should only adorn the Class A uniform.
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Post by mauser98k on Apr 9, 2006 18:53:08 GMT -5
No, it's correct. Soldiers adapted the collar disks to their wool shirts because that way was faster for other men to tell them apart from infantry, armor, etc.
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Post by Go4Broke on Apr 10, 2006 5:16:43 GMT -5
I dunno mauser...I don't think I've ever seen a picture or any refrence of collar brass being worn on the wool shirt, especially in combat, except for some officers who had the crossed infantry rifles on their collar.
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Post by <2>nd Rangers M/Sgt. Tom on Apr 10, 2006 10:43:52 GMT -5
I have seen pictures with soliders with their disks on.
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Post by HellRazor on Apr 10, 2006 11:51:04 GMT -5
How on earth did this go from a topic about Boots, to a discussion about disks?
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Post by mauser98k on Apr 10, 2006 13:02:51 GMT -5
the pic. of mills.
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Post by Go4Broke on Apr 10, 2006 14:22:17 GMT -5
Haha ya maybe we should make a new thread eh?
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Apr 10, 2006 15:27:26 GMT -5
err, that wasnt a pic of me. That was Tom
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Post by mauser98k on Apr 10, 2006 16:08:36 GMT -5
Pickin' on the Guy on a short bused kid eh?
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