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Post by tomsawyer on Jun 9, 2010 17:41:40 GMT -5
HI guys i've just started my marine impression and i was wondering if the p42 uniform was used by the 1st marine division on Cape Gloucester. Im sorry if this has already been asked before.
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Post by deacon on Jun 9, 2010 23:06:04 GMT -5
Not extensively, but they were here and there.
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Post by gunner on Jun 10, 2010 10:22:43 GMT -5
not so much probably by the grunts, but more so likely by the Raiders and Amphib Bn members. I'd do a little googling if possible.
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Post by deacon on Jun 10, 2010 13:34:51 GMT -5
here are a few photos of marines on Gloucester  in this one they are here and there.  the far left guy is wearing them  they all have them, but im curious about those trousers. the pockets look a little baggy for P42s. I wanna say they are ARMY camo trousers.  I see one guy in the very front, but if I were you, I would buy P41s to use for cape Gloucester. Or use your p42s for a Tinian, or Saipan Impression. |
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Post by tomsawyer on Jun 10, 2010 15:10:51 GMT -5
Thanks guys for the replys. I might do a Saipan or Tinian impression but my main goal is to to a first marine divison impression. Im wondering if the marines ever mix matched the uniform because of right now all i have is the p42 jacket.
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Post by troyluginbill on Jun 10, 2010 16:49:34 GMT -5
They were used at cape glouchester and would be entirely acceptable for both front and rear troops. It was the only time the 1st ever used the camo that I am aware of.
The guys in the pic above with the arty are wearing the camo coveralls, once piece. That is why they look so funny with the baggy ness to them.
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Post by tomsawyer on Jun 10, 2010 18:43:35 GMT -5
Would they have been used by the division scout company on peleliu. Just wandering.
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Post by deacon on Jun 10, 2010 20:43:27 GMT -5
No, they wouldn't have had that much camo on Peleliu. They started phasing it out after Cape Gloucester.
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Post by tomsawyer on Jun 10, 2010 21:15:50 GMT -5
Alright thanks. I will probablly go with a saipan impression now since (if im correct) they used more camo than on peleliu. That or i will try to get a p41 uniform.
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Post by deacon on Jun 10, 2010 22:02:30 GMT -5
The 1st did not fight on Saipan, or Tinian. You could do the 2nd marines, they fought on both. But you should not have any trouble doing a good Gloucester Impression with a P42 jacket, and P41 trousers, but if I were you, I would buy the P41 Utility set from ATF. Its only $100, which is a pretty good deal.
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Post by tomsawyer on Jun 11, 2010 5:19:03 GMT -5
Okay thanks deacon. I might get the P41 uniform, then mix it up with my P42 jacket and do a 1st and 2nd Marine division impresstion.
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Post by tomsawyer on Jun 11, 2010 8:05:33 GMT -5
I've noticed the marines wading ashore, 2 of them on the right seem to be using camo e-tool carriers . Were they used a lot or were they just here and there like the P42's.
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Post by deacon on Jun 11, 2010 10:11:19 GMT -5
They were hand made, so they were not very common, and those photo's are mixed units. I am not an expert on 1st Marines, so I couldn't tell you if they were made in that unit or not. They are very few, so I would just go with as much non-camo as possible for what you are doing.
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Post by tomsawyer on Jun 11, 2010 10:17:10 GMT -5
Alright thanks, i figured i would use a regular cover since i plan on a peleliu and okinawa impression. I saw that atthefront makes repos of the camo covers and wondered if they were a farb or not, kinda like the camo cap.
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Post by deacon on Jun 11, 2010 10:34:03 GMT -5
They aren't farb, but I wouldn't use one unless it was for a raider, or Alamo scout impression.
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Post by tomsawyer on Jun 11, 2010 10:43:13 GMT -5
Sorry didnt mean to say farb. first i thought they were but i have seen photos of alamo scouts using them, plus the 11th airborne. Oh well i dont need one for my impression
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Post by gunner on Jun 12, 2010 17:23:27 GMT -5
keep it simple. P41's were the norm, as you know by now, P42's were used in C.G., Yes, it's okay to mix n match. If you really want to go with some camo, do a Raider/Amphib Bn impression also. All the gear is 'almost' the same. If you have a carbine, you're definately good to go as an Amphib recon guy.
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Post by tomsawyer on Jun 13, 2010 15:49:12 GMT -5
Hey gunner, did the amphib recon guys ever use thompsons since this is the gun im going to get.
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Post by gunner on Jun 14, 2010 11:35:22 GMT -5
yes, and M1's. Lighter and easier to handle in the rafts. I "THINK" there were some Johnsons also, but alas, no airsoft model. Everything else, gear wise is the same as all other Marines. I'll try to find the unit breakdown and pm it to you.
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Post by tomsawyer on Jun 14, 2010 12:18:19 GMT -5
Okay thanks gunner.
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Post by usmcww2 on Jun 27, 2012 21:15:19 GMT -5
hi does anyone know if the p42 was used on iwo jima, i know all about the battle and all of the gear the Marine's used on it, but i didn't see any p42's. I have the p42 shirt and pants but all i saw were p41's?!
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Post by aj czarkowski on Jun 27, 2012 22:04:43 GMT -5
hi does anyone know if the p42 was used on iwo jima, i know all about the battle and all of the gear the Marine's used on it, but i didn't see any p42's. I have the p42 shirt and pants but all i saw were p41's?! The USMC began taking them out of service during Cape Gloucester so I don't think you'd see any on Iwo Jima, and if so they would be rare. |
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Post by usmcww2 on Jun 28, 2012 8:38:36 GMT -5
thnks
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Post by gunner on Jun 28, 2012 17:22:54 GMT -5
Tom, sorry, completely forgot about the unit breakdown for you!!! Terribly sorry. If you still want it, just gimma a holler.
Yeah, like answered above, after Cape Glousester, the Marines as a whole started to phase out the camo uniform, the only ones still wearing it would be the Amphib Recon guys. By the time Saipan/Tinian rolled around the Raiders, sadly had been disbanded.
So, the camo's and the Thompson....can also be used, if you ever get the 'itch' for a 1st Recon Company, 1st Marine Division, ROK, 50 through 53.
To clairify a common mistake made above (no harm no foul), when refering to the 1st Marine Division, it's referred to as such or, 1stMarDiv or "The Old Breed", never ever ever as the 1st Marines, because, the 1st Marines is the 1st Marine Regt, of the 1st Marine Division.
Sorry, but us old jarheads are protective of our units!!! LOL
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