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Post by Feodor on Jul 6, 2010 16:43:17 GMT -5
Heres my custom m44 that i based on Gryphon's mod of a cheap spring shotgun. its still in its rough stage right now. the stock needs finishing, the reciever needs to be glued together, the upperhandgaurd needs to be made, and the fake magazine/triggerguard needs to be attached. plus some sights and the finishing touches on the bayonet. hopefully itll be done soon. this is just what im doing while i wait for the proper tools to build my full size mosin out of an mp001. thats all for now. I dont know if this link will work, i still cant figure out photos on here. s960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/Feodor12/Edit: all that blue tape on the reciever is just to hold it together at the moment, it wont be there when im done. |
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jul 6, 2010 17:00:31 GMT -5
Very nice job. Is the stock home made out of wood? Everything looks nice so far.
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Post by Feodor on Jul 6, 2010 17:23:46 GMT -5
yeah i made two identical sides out of 1" thick wood and then put a third layer in between. right now i have the inside carved out to fit and whats left is all cosmetic for the outside of the stock.
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Post by Feodor on Jul 7, 2010 12:25:46 GMT -5
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jul 7, 2010 12:54:18 GMT -5
Looking better! Thats a great idea for the stock making it in two halves. I noticed you had that idea for an M1 Garand stock a few years back. I am going to be trying to make my own wooden M1 Garand stock at one point using that idea. I am too lazy to do it anytime soon though lol.
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Post by Feodor on Jul 7, 2010 13:05:41 GMT -5
yeah the two piece stock works great if you have limited materials and tools. my first stock was all cheap plywood, it worked but it didnt look very good. this ones working out a lot better. having two halves makes it a breeze to carve out a space for the internals too. i just use my bandsaw.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jul 8, 2010 13:17:02 GMT -5
Yea I am more worried about shaping the outside, rounding everything out and all that.
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Post by badmoon on Jul 8, 2010 16:52:44 GMT -5
Looking good there Feodor! One thing puzzles me though, how did you attach the bolt handle in that position? On Gryphon's original project he attached the bolt handle to a bar that in turn was fixed to the action bar of the shotgun. On my shotgun I see that the hop adjuster is just about where your bolt handle attaches, how did you manage to attach the handle to the piston without destroying the hop adjuster?
I've been wanting to make a MAS36 but the forearm of the stock doesn't leave enough room to use Gryphon's method.
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Post by Feodor on Jul 8, 2010 18:56:05 GMT -5
yeah, unfortunately the hopup adjuster had to be removed, and i never found a way to keep it adjustable. im pretty sure though that you could cut a slot farther forward where the hopup actually is and adjust it through there. i originally copied gryphon's mod with the handle attached to the pump rod, but the internal part attaching the pump rod to the piston shattered from stress.
so i just took a piece of copper and gorilla glued it to the outside of the cylinder, then screwed a new cocking handle into that parallel to the cylinder, and then bent the loose part 90 degrees to make a handle. its hard to explain but its solid and its worked so far. i apologize for not thinking to take pictures when i still had the casing open.
anyways, im hoping this setup wont shear off as soon as i try to use it in any sort of battle. ive fired it a few times and i really wish id left the hop up adjustable, the BBs drop off pretty fast. oh well, its cheap and im doing this mostly for fun.
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Post by badmoon on Jul 8, 2010 19:34:53 GMT -5
Is this what you mean?  |
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Post by Feodor on Jul 8, 2010 22:13:29 GMT -5
no, mine was different in concept. i wish i had a way to make a diagram of it... maybe paint. i think hte problem with that design is that the piece of metal that wraps around the front of the cylinder would prevent the cylinder from locking in the forward position. im not positive but i think it would. otherwise, i really like that idea, it looks stronger than mine. ill take a few external pictures of what i have and try to diagram it in paint. s960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/Feodor12/m44%20bolt/there, a diagram and some pictures. to the piece of metal that forms the handle i glued a 1/4" bolt, by the way. it made it much more solid. of course, you could probably put a cocking handle through the piece on the bottom of the cylinder that the cocking rod attaches to, but since mine broke this wasnt an option for me. |
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Post by badmoon on Jul 9, 2010 2:29:25 GMT -5
Ah! Thanks for the info Feodor!  I'll give that idea a try, but I'm going to see if I can reverse the direction of the bend so that the bolt handle is set back just far enough to allow me to keep the hop adjuster intact. If it works it'll mean that it should be possible to re-create most of the smaller WW2 rifles using this method because there will no longer be a problem trying to hide the linkage to the donor shotguns pump mech'. ;D |
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Post by Feodor on Jul 9, 2010 11:50:12 GMT -5
Great to hear! reversing the bend of the handle is a good idea, i wish id done it because my bolt handle is placed farther forward than on the real rifle. oh well, theres always version 2 haha. anyways good luck, and if you come up with any better ideas by all means share them.
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Post by Feodor on Jul 9, 2010 18:43:19 GMT -5
Hooray its done! er.. sort of. it now holds itself together without the aid of tape or rubberbands at least. and it works. unfortunately, the stock still has some obvious gashes i wasnt able to sand out, but well just say it was used to pound in tent pegs during its service life  s960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/Feodor12/m44%20number%203/all i have to do is paint whats supposed to be metal black and stain the stock. otherwise its ready for a firefight in the streets of Berlin. |
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Post by mccallion on Jul 9, 2010 20:10:03 GMT -5
you do know that the m44 was rarly used in ww2....sorry to put a damber on this beautifal project and gun and amasing wood work
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Post by Feodor on Jul 9, 2010 21:01:19 GMT -5
yeah haha im aware, of course all i have to do is take off the bayonet and its an m38, which was used in ww2. i just put the bayonet on because i saw a mount for a bike reflector and decided it would be a perfect folding bayonet mount, and then i just had to do it. it comes off easily and if i ever skirmished with it i would remove it.
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Post by jimmiroquai on Jul 10, 2010 6:30:38 GMT -5
Great woodwork! What fps and range are you getting out of it?
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Post by Feodor on Jul 10, 2010 11:45:12 GMT -5
at the moment... zero. for some reason when i pull back on the cocking handle, the piston doesnt catch in its rearmost position. i think something back there has worn out. ill probably just buy another shotgun and modify it like this one, theyre pretty cheap. the couple times it did shoot it didnt shoot very far, probably because i got rid of the hop adjuster.
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Post by Feodor on Jul 14, 2010 14:12:06 GMT -5
It's done! ;D for real this time. all the metal parts painted, and the stock has been stained. i think it looks pretty close to the real thing. unfortunately i now need to go to walmart and drop $25 on a new shotty, this one crapped out on me. oh well, now ill have two magazines! anyways, im very pleased with the final product of my labors. thanks to gryphon for the original idea. photos! s960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/Feodor12/m44%203/ |
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Post by Ersatzjack on Jul 14, 2010 16:18:37 GMT -5
Looks like an M44 to me. |
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