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Post by deacon on Oct 16, 2010 3:38:18 GMT -5
If you spent time to actually read, and search crap on this forum, you would learn, that an attempt on an M1 carbine, or M1A1 carbine is very tough, and there aren't many alternatives, and there is next to nothing for gearboxes that will fit in the stock.
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Post by volkssturm on Oct 16, 2010 10:16:59 GMT -5
Somewhere buried deep in these threads is a link to a Japanese guy who managed to built an M1 carbine by slicing up a ver. 3 (I think it was) gear box and changing the geometry. It was a major job and took quite a bit of metal working skill. There's another problem with the M1A1 folding stock. If you could cram the gearbox in the fore end, where would you put the battery?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 16, 2010 11:28:31 GMT -5
The size limitations make such a project far more challenging than one would expect and several efforts have been made none of which ended up especially well done and sadly none of them commercial offerings.
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Post by deacon on Oct 16, 2010 16:12:28 GMT -5
with an M1A1, you could try and cram a Li-po in the handguard, or you can throw a mag pouch on the stock, and run wires into the gun.
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Post by 5thrangerbat on Oct 16, 2010 18:36:13 GMT -5
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Post by thatoneguy on Oct 18, 2010 0:37:12 GMT -5
For the battery, you could use have the space in the mag and use a Li-po. I doesn't ALL have to hold bbs
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Post by Adler69 on Oct 18, 2010 0:58:44 GMT -5
For the battery, you could use have the space in the mag and use a Li-po. I doesn't ALL have to hold bbs Wait, What?  |
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Post by volkssturm on Oct 18, 2010 12:05:37 GMT -5
Well, you could, but you wouldn't have much of a battery or very many BB's.
One approach I've thought about is using the mechbox from the MP40 and scaling the stock up to fit, but the mechbox is about 3/4inch taller than the carbine. That's a lot adjustment and I think it wouldbe real obvious.
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Post by deacon on Oct 20, 2010 23:49:40 GMT -5
I've tried... it looks like applesauce .
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Post by cole97 on Dec 20, 2010 20:05:37 GMT -5
i was thinking you could simply put an m14 gear box in the receiver, instead of the stock, so its further forward. then you could simply use a type of mag flush with the stock (much like the vsr 10) and have the other mag be a dummy. i dont like the idea of it, but its possible for anyone hell bent on getting a carbine aeg.
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Post by cole97 on Dec 20, 2010 20:07:19 GMT -5
also i think the m1a1 would be very acheiveable and thats what people should lean towards. a pistol grip brings in possibilities of a v2 or v6 gear box, and utilizing a more realistic magazine.
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Post by deacon on Dec 22, 2010 0:59:36 GMT -5
the motor would have to be close to perpendicular with the gearbox. which wouldn't work very well.
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Post by cole97 on Dec 22, 2010 1:45:53 GMT -5
oh. yeah. maybey someone could make the stock at an angle that would match a gear box and still look right. i dunno its a long shot. good thing the carbine receiver is short. i think the length is about right for a gearbox.
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Post by jimmiroquai on Dec 22, 2010 3:50:38 GMT -5
Another plausible way to build this is to use a Nonblowback pistol as a base. This will give you enough power (as compared to a pathetic AEP) and will be semiauto as well. You can hide the workings of the NBB pistol in the stock and receiver, and the grip in a para pistol grip. You'l just have to come up with a custom barrel for it.
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Post by cole97 on Dec 22, 2010 15:54:59 GMT -5
it might work, but the goal here is for an AEG. i like the idea of the battery in the mag pouch on the stock. makes changing batteries super fast. and that frees up a little more space as well. i think if you change that angle on the pistol grip a v3 gear box (the japanise made one used a v3, courtesey of google translate  ) would be a breeze. i think some form of midcap thats thin enough could be used for the mag with a cheap RS box magazine. but the m1a1 means you have to put the battery somewhere else. id say under the barrel in the handguard infront of the charging handle. |
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Post by CharleyNovember on Dec 22, 2010 15:59:43 GMT -5
I think using an MP7 mechbox is the way to go. Carbines were fairly weak anyways so a little less umph is ok plus you can match a better hop and make sure you have a good seal and that will do wonders for you. Wouldn't you know I happen to have a carbine and an MP7 box out in the garage. From eyeballing it will work but I don't have time to mess with it till after the new years.
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Post by freelancer on Dec 22, 2010 16:06:09 GMT -5
A mp7 or even a scorpion gearbox would work. also the mp7 short mags will fit inside the rs M1 carbine mags.
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Post by burke on Dec 22, 2010 16:06:59 GMT -5
^Thats pretty much what Warren from Shoot and Scoot was doing. Except he was gonna use Skorpion gerabox's instead of MP7's....
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Post by CharleyNovember on Dec 22, 2010 17:22:46 GMT -5
MP7 is just what I have sitting on the shelf. Not making it for sale just making it for me to use.
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Post by cole97 on Dec 22, 2010 18:10:54 GMT -5
it would make an excelent backup if you dont want to carry a gbb 1911. and if you do make one id love to see how you carry out with it!  |
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) would be a breeze. i think some form of midcap thats thin enough could be used for the mag with a cheap RS box magazine. but the m1a1 means you have to put the battery somewhere else. id say under the barrel in the handguard infront of the charging handle.
